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Pt. 3
So here I am, I'd just been made a mod maybe a week before (I'd been a list elf since April '01, but the mods were a smaller group, consisting of Penny, N, John, A, and three newbie-mods -- me, Ci, and Ca), and suddenly here I am saddled with this. No idea what to do. I decide to sleep on it.
Sunday chat next day, the person doing the detective work on John's hacker sent a private message to one of the other 'newbie mods' in chat, the only mod in chat that day, Ca. In the pm, this person asks Ca to relay some 'techy' info regarding IPs to John re his hacker. Ca's not techy herself, didn't really understand what she was being told, and then it basically slipped her mind.
Monday morning, when this person hadn't heard back from John, they contacted him, gave him the info, say they asked Ca to tell him. John's kind of ticked that Ca didn't tell him, and this informs my decision to tell him (and the other mods) what Sinead told me. He had a right to know.
So, I edit out all the 'personal' stuff S had told me in our chat, and just give John the bits about the hacking. Turned out that the IP info from the 'gotcha' email sent to John from the hacker, plus the first two 'Mafalda' posts matched with Dai's info, and this tallied with what she'd told me. Dai believed his IP wasn't traceable, so he created the Mafalda account, Sinead wrote the posts with his input (he was the one who really had an axe to grind with John, far moreso than Sinead, and when she'd asked him 'what else' she could say, he brought up the Penny stuff, too), then he'd sent them for her.
In our chat I'd also encouraged Sinead to contact Penny; S had really felt bad about what she'd said about her, so I told her she should try emailing her. She did, and Penny was sort of forgiving, but also a bit guarded. Sinead came away from their exchange with the impression that Penny wanted her to leave the group. Hence her "Goodbye All" post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTC
Penny showed the rest of us the email she'd sent Sinead, and there was nothing in it that could be construed as a request that S leave.
The mods in turn made this post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTC
Over the next couple weeks, Sinead kept turning up in Sunday chat, and John and others who were pissed on his behalf were really hard on her, told her they couldn't forgive the hacking, she wasn't welcome in chat anymore, etc., etc.
Next part -- in the early morning of St. Patrick's day, a Sunday that year, Yahoo upgraded their servers; no problems at first, but by late afternoon, some of our groups, including the main list, were showing as 'not existing'. At first we thought it was just a Yahoo snafu, but we soon realized otherwise. Someone had deleted the main list. Penny got into an email exchange with Yahoo, then had a series of phone calls with them, and luckily they were able to restore our groups, and they did verify that someone had indeed deleted them. Penny *also* got an email confirming that she'd changed her password, which she'd not done.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrow
Sinead had been in Sunday chat that afternoon and bragged that she'd had 'powerful friends' (the implication that folks being mean to her better think twice), and some anonymous person joined the chat under an id of Moderator followed by a number (e.g., Moderator47886; the actual id is probably in a file somewhere..) and said his name was 'Paul,' that he was an 'independent' moderator for AOL or somesuch, and that he'd gotten reports that someone in our chat had been accused of hacking; at some point he commented that he could 'access some people's accounts'. Most people figured it was Dai.
So here I am, I'd just been made a mod maybe a week before (I'd been a list elf since April '01, but the mods were a smaller group, consisting of Penny, N, John, A, and three newbie-mods -- me, Ci, and Ca), and suddenly here I am saddled with this. No idea what to do. I decide to sleep on it.
Sunday chat next day, the person doing the detective work on John's hacker sent a private message to one of the other 'newbie mods' in chat, the only mod in chat that day, Ca. In the pm, this person asks Ca to relay some 'techy' info regarding IPs to John re his hacker. Ca's not techy herself, didn't really understand what she was being told, and then it basically slipped her mind.
Monday morning, when this person hadn't heard back from John, they contacted him, gave him the info, say they asked Ca to tell him. John's kind of ticked that Ca didn't tell him, and this informs my decision to tell him (and the other mods) what Sinead told me. He had a right to know.
So, I edit out all the 'personal' stuff S had told me in our chat, and just give John the bits about the hacking. Turned out that the IP info from the 'gotcha' email sent to John from the hacker, plus the first two 'Mafalda' posts matched with Dai's info, and this tallied with what she'd told me. Dai believed his IP wasn't traceable, so he created the Mafalda account, Sinead wrote the posts with his input (he was the one who really had an axe to grind with John, far moreso than Sinead, and when she'd asked him 'what else' she could say, he brought up the Penny stuff, too), then he'd sent them for her.
In our chat I'd also encouraged Sinead to contact Penny; S had really felt bad about what she'd said about her, so I told her she should try emailing her. She did, and Penny was sort of forgiving, but also a bit guarded. Sinead came away from their exchange with the impression that Penny wanted her to leave the group. Hence her "Goodbye All" post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTC
Penny showed the rest of us the email she'd sent Sinead, and there was nothing in it that could be construed as a request that S leave.
The mods in turn made this post:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPFGU-OTC
Over the next couple weeks, Sinead kept turning up in Sunday chat, and John and others who were pissed on his behalf were really hard on her, told her they couldn't forgive the hacking, she wasn't welcome in chat anymore, etc., etc.
Next part -- in the early morning of St. Patrick's day, a Sunday that year, Yahoo upgraded their servers; no problems at first, but by late afternoon, some of our groups, including the main list, were showing as 'not existing'. At first we thought it was just a Yahoo snafu, but we soon realized otherwise. Someone had deleted the main list. Penny got into an email exchange with Yahoo, then had a series of phone calls with them, and luckily they were able to restore our groups, and they did verify that someone had indeed deleted them. Penny *also* got an email confirming that she'd changed her password, which she'd not done.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrow
Sinead had been in Sunday chat that afternoon and bragged that she'd had 'powerful friends' (the implication that folks being mean to her better think twice), and some anonymous person joined the chat under an id of Moderator followed by a number (e.g., Moderator47886; the actual id is probably in a file somewhere..) and said his name was 'Paul,' that he was an 'independent' moderator for AOL or somesuch, and that he'd gotten reports that someone in our chat had been accused of hacking; at some point he commented that he could 'access some people's accounts'. Most people figured it was Dai.
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