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	thedorkygirl 2006-08-14 12:22 am UTC (link)
	You know, I just found that on Aja's journal, just like I'd just opened the link to reply in a new tab on the post below yours and got a new dog. Fandom is running strangely in sync with me in an out of sync way today. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	the_wanlorn 2006-08-14 12:24 am UTC (link)
	You're two seconds behind the rest of fandom, aren't you? ;-) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	bookshop 2006-08-14 12:31 am UTC (link)
	YAY PHOENIX RISING. PIMP PIMP PIMP! </ completely pointless comment> (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rhiannonmr 2006-08-14 07:14 am UTC (link)
	I think the PhoenixRising people are acting very responsibly here and I applaud that. I hope everything works out for them and that this kerfluffle increases interest in it. Personally I am looking at going myself because it's fairly close to home for me, and I won't have to spend a buttload of money on plane tickets. (Reply to this)(Parent)

major_fischer
2006-08-14 01:24 am UTC (link)

Since the OP of this topic originally decided to kill the discussion on this topic I'm trying to think about what I said that might be worthy of being restated...

My girlfriend ran cons for a while in eastern Canada and she and I discussed this matter this afternoon. She felt like if it was one of her cons she'd rather know than not know about the accusations so that she could have the time to evaluate them for herself. She also felt that the Phoenix Rising staff had a sufficient time to decide that and potentially arrange for replacement guests. So from her viewpoint it was good for them not bad... well bad to have to deal with it but there are worst times and worse ways to have to deal with the wank.

There were some implications that Bad_Penny was somehow responsible for people contacting the con staff despite the fact that the BP mods have gone out of their way to discourage this kind of behavior. I think it is worth repeating that we have no evidence at all that any BP community member has emailed the con, or that those who did didn't have some legitimate connection to the con other than some story they are following on the internet.

I see BP as an outlet for a certain kind of ... odd ... investigative journalism. I don't blame sports reporters when they uncover my favorite athelete is using performance enhancing drugs. I don't attack newspapers for uncovering corruption in my political party. I blame the people who have disappointed me or embarrassed a group that I admire or am associated with.

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	pensieve 2006-08-14 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Hear, hear! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rhiannonmr 2006-08-14 07:16 am UTC (link)
	What you said. I was arguing that the PR people have LJs and this has been ALL over LJ for the last week. I don't personally think people commenting here are guilty because the mod presense and their emphasis on keeping it here. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

major_fischer
2006-08-14 12:35 pm UTC (link)

Exactly. This story has creeped into several fandoms of mine that have very little connection to Harry Potter, ranging from discussions about "those crazy wackjob Harry Potter people" to what fandoms I had been in in the past would have done about the plagiarism behavior and the nature of fanfic. Maybe if I was a Potter fan I'd be concerned about the public image of my fandom right now (but to be honest it wasn't very good to start with because of the behavior of people like Heidi and Cassie that was simply bad not unethical).

As I joked in the now deleted discussion that you know you are in trouble when the Law & Order fangirls are talking about you. There are very few things worse than finding a fic written by a fourteen year old fangirl trying to write dialogue for lawyers ;)