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Pyrate Jenni ([info]pyratejenni) wrote in [info]bad_penny,
@ 2006-08-16 21:31:00


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Aja recants

No words.

Yet.

ETA: Aja has edited her post:

Edit: To be explicit, I did talk to the head of the conference yesterday. Amy Tenbrink confirmed that there were death threats, but that that was all that she confirmed. I have since talked to her again and clarified that the threats were not specifically directed at or to any one person.

ETA 2: The conference head of Phoenix Rising posts.



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[info]oulangi
2006-08-17 01:36 am UTC (link)
Damnit! I'm losing track!
Are we a lynch mob that is the root of all evil, or are we a convenient patsy like Christians or Southerners a la MsScribe??? Because at this point it's really effecting my ability to chose the right icon!

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[info]ereshkigal
2006-08-17 01:36 am UTC (link)
The direct post link (to make it more permanent since she will eventually update her lj again?): http://www.journalfen.net/users/bnfshavemorefun/12695.html

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-08-17 01:41 am UTC

[info]gun
2006-08-17 01:40 am UTC (link)
This wank is penis in the ass lush.

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(no subject) - camilla, 2006-08-17 06:13 am UTC

[info]princessdot
2006-08-17 01:43 am UTC (link)
So this means that what now, as my head is spinning... There were no death threats?

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-17 01:44 am UTC (link)
*facepalm*

I've been given permission from the head of the conference to confirm this.

Was it...a sockpuppet? Or a...LOLZjkjkjk

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[info]kijikun
2006-08-17 01:46 am UTC (link)
....

I'm going to need a chart or something here soon.

Gah.

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[info]ecchaniz0r
2006-08-17 01:47 am UTC (link)
Oh fucking hell.

...*FTPs Aja b00ze because holy shit if I were her I'd need it*

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[info]snarkbunny
2006-08-17 01:48 am UTC (link)
...You know, all I can really do at this point is just laugh.

I wouldn't actually be surprised if there were death threats, though, seeing as people I know have gotten death threats over fandom things before. Much lesser offenses, too.

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(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2006-08-17 02:44 am UTC

[info]sisterelwood
2006-08-17 01:48 am UTC (link)
Okay... so where does this leave us?

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[info]redcoast
2006-08-17 01:52 am UTC (link)
Can I lie and say "I KNEW there was something funny about those death threats"?

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[info]ladyrogue
2006-08-17 02:03 am UTC (link)
Has Shezan exploded yet? ...has anyone checked?

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What the...? - (Anonymous), 2006-08-17 12:08 pm UTC
Re: What the...? - [info]shadowkitty, 2006-08-17 12:10 pm UTC
Re: What the...? - camilla, 2006-08-17 02:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2006-08-17 06:16 am UTC
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Shezan thinks it's "unhelpful" - (Anonymous), 2006-08-17 03:09 pm UTC
Re: Shezan thinks it's "unhelpful" - [info]singe, 2006-08-17 11:36 pm UTC

[info]lerefuge
2006-08-17 02:03 am UTC (link)
OMG, this is *hilarious*.

But isn't it how it usually goes with CC and her clique?

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[info]polemic
2006-08-17 02:06 am UTC (link)
Poor Aja.

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(no subject) - [info]smut_queen, 2006-08-17 02:38 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-08-17 02:14 am UTC (link)
So she was lying when she said she talked to Amy Tenbrink (PR organizer).

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[info]crazedchipmunk
2006-08-17 02:19 am UTC (link)
This wank has more twists and turns than the actual books!

Tell me these people are all just Ms. Scribe sockpuppets, or something. Please. Cause my head is starting to hurt from laughing.

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[info]polygamouse
2006-08-17 02:27 am UTC (link)
Lying about death threats... Holy crap, people! Even the OMG!oppreshun is plagiarised.

If the death threats are a lie, then I'm mostly just glad that no one's crossed that line. 'Cause seriously? Death threats are way worse than plagiarism, and it would warm the cockles of my cynical little heart to discover that no one really went there.

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[info]prettyveela
2006-08-17 02:28 am UTC (link)
*confused* Ok but I thought the head lady of the conference confirmed it! What the hell is going on around here?

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[info]puipui
2006-08-17 02:39 am UTC (link)
One would think that Aja, more than anyone, would know the dangers of convention-related death threat rumors on the internet.

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[info]redcoast
2006-08-17 02:51 am UTC (link)
The good news is, [info]shezan and [info]nmalfoy are going to be thrilled to learn that the death threats are (apparently) non-existent!

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-17 02:53 am UTC
*Shrug* - [info]redcoast, 2006-08-17 02:55 am UTC
Re: *Shrug* - (Anonymous), 2006-08-17 03:00 am UTC
Re: *Shrug* - [info]redcoast, 2006-08-17 03:02 am UTC
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[info]elimination
2006-08-17 02:55 am UTC (link)
...

I have vodka. Join me.

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[info]southernbangel
2006-08-17 03:02 am UTC (link)
Aside from Aja's confirmation, was there anyone else--particularly someone heavily involved with the convention--who confirmed that there were actual threats made against Heidi's person? And now Aja is saying she can't confirm any threats? Do we know if the threats were Ms.Scribe-esque, a way for those in hot water to deflect blame?

If there were actual death threats, WTF doesn't even begin to cover my response. There is NO excuse for threatening someone, particularly when it involves fanfiction. Don't get me wrong, I love fanfic and read it voraciously but it is still fanfic. However, if there were no threats and it was merely a chance for Heidi or Aja or whomever to excuse certain behavior or sweep this under the rug, then there are no words for how low and despicable these people are.

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(no subject) - [info]piranha, 2006-08-17 04:23 am UTC

[info]southernbangel
2006-08-17 03:13 am UTC (link)
Has there been clarification from Aja about what exactly she confirmed earlier with Amy? "Yes, Amy told me directly there were death threats, threats that she herself or other con organizers had received regarding Heidi" or "no, I misinterpreted Amy when she said that she knew of death threats"--world of difference between the two, I can see where there was confusion, but regardless, what the heck was actually confirmed???

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-17 03:16 am UTC (link)
Assuming Aja didn't flat out lie about having spoken to Amy at PR, and I'm willing to trust her on that one, it seems obvious that Amy has changed the story she's telling Aja. My guess is she fell into the same trap that so many people have done with Heidi and Co. and believed at face value that Heidi had received death threats. Possibly Heidi invented them to be able to bow out of the conference before she was kicked out. Not like this clique has ever shied away from painting themselves the victims.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-08-17 03:17 am UTC
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[info]bookshop
2006-08-17 03:16 am UTC (link)

I have edited my post.

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(Anonymous)
2006-08-17 03:17 am UTC (link)
Does anyone remember the free-speech lesson where they tell you something to the effect that yeah, we have free speech but that doesn't make it okay to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater? That's what this stuff feels like to me. Somebody gets into a tight pinch, so they yell "death threat" or "stalker" and everyone freaks out. It's like they don't grasp that those kinds of claims do have some serious repercussions.

Meanwhile, the plagiarism thing is out of control. I don't mind if an author finds an original way to work a favorite Buffy tagline into their fic. I don't care if they lift major plot elements (although they should really note that the fic is a crossover and then cite the source) because fanfic is by it's very nature borrowed from a pre-existing work. On the other hand, when someone copies entire paragraphs or dialogue scenes from other sources, then I do have a problem.

The upshot is that my planned 35 chapter phanfic is going to be extended to 70 chapters so that I can write an appendix of shout-outs and sources for each chapter a) just in case and b) because it will give anyone who got the references a chance to go all squee.

-Moony Fae

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