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The Duchess of Richmond ([info]charlottelennox) wrote in [info]bad_penny,
@ 2006-10-02 02:21:00


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The Msscribe Story, Afterword Three
Greetings! It's been a while since I last posted on June 23rd, 2006. There is an interesting new development.



But first, here is a brief recap of the Msscribe-related events that I know of since that post, with a couple that happened before that post, but weren't covered in it:

June 21 -- [info]malachan (formerly [info]cygnusfap), revealing himself to be the person behind [info]fandom_quibbler, posted some more IP matches for Msscribe -- anonymous comments about the fall of GT on the Quibbler.

June 22 -- [info]angua9 posted the text of the email that she had sent Heidi in March-April 2004, saying that it was in response to a comment on Heidi's journal, which she quoted.

June 23 -- [info]clarabella21 commented on this post in [info]angua9's Live Journal, saying only: An update will be posted in my journal. According to [info]angua9, the IP was 151.138.254.21, which looks like it comes from the DFW Airport in Dallas, Texas. A couple of hours later, "Clarabella" made a voice mail post on her own LJ, oddly backdated to a month before. Here is a screencap, and here is what it said, as transcribed by tophets_tool:
It’s me. I know that I haven’t been around in years and I never thought I’d come back to this journal. I’ve already apologised, I have nothing else to say, except that I wan’t to be left alone. I don’t appreciate people contacting me, and I will be deleting this journal in twenty four hours. Thank you
I have no idea who made that phone call, but Clarabella's journal was deleted twenty-four hours later as she promised.

In between those two events on that same day, June 23, Msscribe made another change to her LJ, changing her name to [info]dejaspirit and her title to "Solitude." That LJ is still in existence as I write this, and looks like this. There are no public posts, but she has three friend-only posts since then, according to the calendar, the latest one on September 29th. As I recall, there were a few more posts previously that must have now been deleted. Currently, [info]dejaspirit has 87 people friended, and 47 mutual friends. Here is a screencap taken by [info]smithereen showing that dejaspirit is the same LJ as delawarean/light_music/msscribe, renamed again.

June 24 -- [info]heidi8 posted a public apology for "some of the things I said and did, as well as some of the things I didn't say or didn't do."

July 7 or so -- The [info]dejaspirit LJ was changed from a permanent account to a basic account. People have speculated that Live Journal allowed Msscribe to transfer her permanent account status to a different LJ. If so, I do not know what that LJ name is.

July 15 -- I received an email apparently from babygrrl/[info]infinitus. It appeared to be authentic, from what I could tell, and said briefly that she was a real person; that she did not know if what I have said about Msscribe was true, but that Msscribe had been a good friend to her; and that she had spoken to "Clarabella" on the telephone a couple of times while Msscribe was said to be in the hospital. She further said that she has left fandom completely for personal reasons and does not wish to be contacted in any way. I did not respond, and I have no plan to question her further.


Now for the reason for my post:

October 1 -- In response to a "fandom history" posted by [info]michaelaecks on the [info]bad_penny community, and now deleted, [info]heidi8 had made a post on September 30 discussing [info]michaelaeck's allegations. On that post, an anonymous commenter offered some information about Msscribe. I will repeat selected parts of the comment here:
...I am a 12 year veteran of an investigative until dedicated to mostly fraud, but I’ve had some experience with other crimes more personal in nature. I won’t be revealing who I am and I’m sure you can understand that concern.

...Wanting to uncover a few things, I did some digging on my own. In order to remain neutral, I didn’t contact either the people in question or the accusers.

...Some things I discovered:

Msscribe sued a trucking company entitled J & P trucking using personal injury attorney Fred Freibott in April of 2002. The suit alleged that the injury’s included head injury, a broken rib, a broken arm, and a dislocated shoulder. The case settled five months later.

From that April 2002 until 2003, msscribe’s tax records indicate that she and her husband employed someone who has a very similar last name to that belonging to the sockpuppet ‘Clarabella’. The title of the position they gave her was ‘home health aid.’ That person also claimed their income on their own tax return. Using the real name on the tax record, I was able to access their college information as well as other information regarding them including the fact that they had been employed at a nursing home for two years prior. The employee of msscribe’s last employment record is as a nurse’s aid in Florida in 2004, the prior record being a child care worker in late 2003.

Msscribe was hospitalized at least five times in that three-year period, twice for surgery according to her application for disability status in 2003. (I would question why someone who is married to a lawyer needs disability, but that might be me being judgemental.) When I gave her real name to the records department at Christiana Hospital in Delaware, this was confirmed.

The alleged stalker: This is a tricky one. The bad penny people can’t be blamed too much for this, but it turns out that there is a record, although it isn’t a police report, rather an incident report, and at the time msscribe appeared to still be using her maiden name and not her married one. In addition, the name ‘Louis’ turned out not to be a legal name, but a nickname. At first attempt to uncover the report, I was told they could find it, but upon inquiring about an incident record, I was able to retrieve more information. It was reported as telephone harassment and not internet harassment, and the charges were dropped. It appears that she lied about any death threats and that even though she may have been harassed, she dropped the ball when it came down to pursuing it, perhaps because she didn’t have a clear case. I’ve dealt with numerous police departments regarding Internet cases and they are pretty inept at handling these things. I toyed with posting the report, but most of the information would be blacked out and I don’t think it would add all that much weight.

In any case, her alleged stalker has no prior criminal history and none since, with the exception of one citation for public consumption of alcohol in 2005.

...I am continuing to plow through these reports, but I’ll be happy to take requests. I don’t want to flood the system with inquiries however (things like Lexis and other national databases require logins and often money) but I will be happy to try to clarify things.

...I'm thinking of setting up a journal and post ing what I find, although please know that it sometimes takes a few days to access information.

Of course I have no idea who this anonymous person is or any way to judge the accuracy of their information. I understand that [info]heidi8 had IP logging turned off at the time, so she will not have this person's IP. I will say that I do not believe that this is Msscribe. The style is very different from hers, it has a precise, dispassionate tone that I do not believe her to be capable of, and, perhaps most telling of all, it does not flatter Msscribe or emphasize her importance. I would be very interested in speaking further with this unidentified informant.

Here is how this information strikes me:

As to the automobile accident and lawsuit, I tend to believe it. I have always suspected that Msscribe was telling the truth about having been in an automobile accident and having a severe head injury. This is one aspect of her story that never wavered from first to last. As lawsuits are a matter of public record, perhaps someone who knows Msscribe's real name can verify this.

As to the home health care aide, this sounds credible, though it would be much harder to independently verify. I note that if "Clarabella" or her equivalent was working and possibly residing with Msscribe from June 2002 onward, this obviously does not fit Clarabella's two different descriptions of herself in her early posts at Portkey and on LJ when she was fangirling Msscribe. Nor does it fit Msscribe's posts to and about Clarabella, since they posted as strangers who were meeting for the first time. If you will remember my recap here, both Msscribe and Clarabella were claiming that they lived in different places as late as May 30, 2003. It was not until March 2, 2004 that Msscribe made the first reference to "Clarabella" living with her or being any kind of health aide. Before that, she was a fan met on the internet and, later, a friend and occasional babysitter.

If this new information is correct, it seems that either Msscribe based her "Clarabella" sockpuppet on her real-life health care aide, or possibly the real-life health care aide was involved in the fangirling scheme, posing as a stranger to Msscribe. I note that the anonymous commenter says that the real-life health care aide had "a very similar last name to that belonging to the sockpuppet ‘Clarabella’." I would be very interested in knowing what that name is. Though I obviously can't access tax records, etc., like this person claims to, I can at least do a Google search!

Next comes the claim about hospital visits: Msscribe was hospitalized at least five times in that three-year period, twice for surgery according to her application for disability status in 2003. I frankly don't understand this. If the "five times in that three-year period" was described in a disability application in 2003, does that mean the accident was way back in 2000? Or is this person writing unclearly, and the "three-year period" goes, say, from 2002 to 2005? I have no difficulty believing that Msscribe might have had hospital visits, but I remain very skeptical of her dramatic near-death collapse as reported to us by "Clarabella" in March of 2003. I would be interested to know if this anonymous source claims a hospital visit corresponding to that date.

I have no idea if this claim can be independently verified. I have been informed that hospitals will not give out information without the permission of the patient, and this source is not clear how he or she obtained the information from "the records department at Christiana Hospital in Delaware." I would point out the discrepancy between a disability application and an active career as a back-up singer/senator's publicist who made appearances on the television news and was forced to resign for writing smutty fanfic.

Next comes the matter of the alleged "telephone harrasser." I am inclined to be suspicious of this account. Too many people have badgered both the Dayton Police and the University of Dayton campus authorities for information about "Louis Movello" or any similar name for me to believe that there was an "incident report" for any person with the same last name that somehow wasn't found. However, this can of course be confirmed, if anyone feels like bothering the unfortunate Dayton Police one last time. Given the fact that Msscribe gave [info]ari_o the name of an officer who wasn't employed there in 2003, and the total lack of success various people have had looking for someone with a name similar to Msscribe's alleged stalker both in the town of Dayton and at the university, I simply can't believe this claim without further substantiation. I would like to know what name the alleged incident report was made for, if "Louis" was a nickname, as this person claims. I would also be very interested in the date. Was it, perhaps, an earlier incident that Msscribe drew upon when creating the story of Fermatojam's stalking?

Whatever the truth of the alleged incident report (and I hope we'll find out more soon), I note that this story, if true, shows that Msscribe was lying in almost everything she ever said about "Louis," including that she "had him arrested" and "took him to court," that she had a police report, that he was expelled from his school, that he hacked into her computer and twelve others, that he sent her threatening emails that were "all printed out and sitting in a little file at the campus police department," and, presumably, that he was a member of Gryffindor Tower. Also, it destroys the explanation of how Clarabella discovered Fermatojam's email password and "hacked into" his accounts.


If the person who posted on Heidi's LJ is legitimate, I hope he or she will respond to some of these questions!



ETA: I feel like I'm stepping on eggshells here, but here goes. An anonymous commenter who seems by style to be the same anonymous commenter from Heidi's LJ has posted here in response to my questions, claiming to be using an Anonymizer. The posts were screened by the mods because they contained a great deal of personal information, including names, addresses, and medical information that is apparently not legal to give out in public and could conceivably get this community, JF, and of course me into legal trouble. For this reason, I have screened all new comments on my JF and LJ journals. I will unscreen all inoffensive comments as soon as I notice them, but please be aware that I do not have comment notification turned on, so I might miss some. I am very sorry about this.

Here is what the person said in response to my questions, without the details:

1 - S/he says that Msscribe was admitted to the hospital on the date she and Clarabella claimed, with particulars that generally fit their accounts (except for Clarabella's place of residence and relationship to Msscribe).

2 - S/he says that Msscribe's home health care aide seems by address to have been a student at Clarabella's claimed university at one time, though apparently not after late 2002 (in other words, her time in the HP fandom), when she listed her address as Msscribe's address. S/he didn't respond about the age question or offer the person's real name (which is good, of course, and I shouldn't have asked without specifying that I wanted to receive this information privately!). S/he gave more information about the person's post-Msscribe work and personal history.

3. S/he says that Msscribe showed income from being a back-up singer mainly prior to 1996. S/he said something that indicated that Msscribe might have been employed by a state senator in 2003, but did not say whether or not she reported income from that. S/he gave much information about Msscribe's employment record prior to 2002, some of which agrees with what I found by Googling.

4. S/he said something that seems to imply that the telephone harassment incident report he or she previously mentioned was on the correct date in March 2003, and also said that it is available on an online database. I have not found out how to access such a database, but have found indications that one might exist. No more detail was given on that.

Despite the wealth of detail offered, I have not been able to confirm any of this information. I am extremely reluctant to call the hospital, though it may be that hospitals are willing to confirm the bare fact of an admission if you have the correct patient name and date. I am somewhat reluctant to bother the Dayton police, especially if an online alternative really is available. I cannot attempt to confirm any of the "Clarabella" or "Louis" information, as I do not have their alleged real names. I am still hoping that someone will confirm or deny the lawsuit -- I'm afraid I personally have no knowledge of how to search for court cases.

If the investigative mouse wants to comment on my screened JF or LJ with more hints to help me confirm his or her assertions, I think that would be acceptable. I will investigate to the best of my amateur (and within-the-bounds-of-legal) ability and report the results without personal details. He or she can no longer post here (unless s/he gets an account), because the mods have turned off anonymous posting.

I thank the mouse for coming here and responding, and I apologize to the Bad_Penny mods and Journalfen for the spate of TMI that occurred. I'm so glad you were watching!




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[info]slwatson
2006-10-02 07:48 am UTC (link)
The writing style kind of disturbs me, Charlotte. Then again, my uncle is a retired deputy of 25 years and types worse than I do by far, so that may simply be someone older. Nonetheless, I would take this with a grain of salt... which is a moot point to tell you, as you're already one of fandom's finest investigators.

My impression is that this is someone who may want to both knock MsScribe, but also show that the people who befriended her were entirely misled victims, and not just kind of gullible. Why did this person post to Heidi's journal, when your account of the affair would be a far more appropriate place? Nevermind the potential minefield of inaccuracies regarding the police report.

I told Michela earlier and will repeat it again -- incident reports (and police reports, and motions in court and a great number of other things) are open under the Public Records acts. That's how investigative reporters get their information many times, and all one has to do is watch Inside Edition to see how easy it is to obtain copies of these things.

What that means is that it doesn't matter to the Dayton Police or the campus whether 'Louis' exists or not. If they're asked for records, they would have no personal stake in hiding anything and would cooperate if these records actually existed. It's really no skin of their noses. So, in conclusion, if you folks hadn't found it already (no doubt knowing the dates and names), incident report or otherwise, it very likely doesn't exist.

All this being said, I still want to have your tl;dr lesbian babies.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-10-02 09:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]slwatson, 2006-10-02 08:50 pm UTC

[info]sheep
2006-10-02 08:06 am UTC (link)
I think Dajaspirit has also had her account downgraded from permanent to basic. Some suggested that she may of had the LJ team switch her permanent account to a completely different one. Possibly an already existing sock, or a new journal.

I find it odd that Heidi8 turned of IP logging as well. I know the suggestion was made that it was so people could ask questions without fear of retribution, but why has she not done this before? Not to mention this person just happened to find/check her journal just then?

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(no subject) - [info]charlottelennox, 2006-10-02 08:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sashenka, 2006-10-02 02:27 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-10-02 08:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - sockpuppet_rat, 2006-10-02 08:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]melandry, 2006-10-02 07:07 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]melandry, 2006-10-02 09:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 11:26 pm UTC

[info]bunny
2006-10-02 08:21 am UTC (link)
Wow. Putting Msscribe's names into the PI version of Google. How very Veronica Mars of the anonymous. Only Veronica takes it half a day tops to find out what she wants to know from her search engines. But I guess when you have to pretend to be someone else by changing your writing style and not look like you are flattering your own importance (except for devoting time to the subject long after msscribe at least owned up to being a troll) then that might take you three months.

Next time Heidi turns IP logging off, I will tell the absolute true story of how I found the Lindbergh baby just using a crystal ball and a couple of toothpicks.

If the anonymous had wanted to be credible, he should have posted signed-in with the fandom name that got invested into the story enough to research it and posted comments where IP logging was turned on.

That being said, it's possible that the "search engine results" are somewhat truthful. That doesn't exonerate Msscribe from being the anonymous, in fact, it seems more likely that Msscribe would know best which records she could use to bolster her claims.

And last but not least, even if the anonymous is genuine it doesn't weaken the proof of her trolling. That the nanny existed doesn't prove that she was posting as Pottersginny.

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(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 03:48 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]poconell, 2006-10-05 08:47 pm UTC

[info]princessdot
2006-10-02 08:27 am UTC (link)


~hopes all others take note of just how it's done, y0~

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-10-02 12:44 pm UTC

[info]rhiannonmr
2006-10-02 11:27 am UTC (link)
Just to add something here which bothers me. How the hell did this person find out she applied for disability? That's NOT public record AFAIK. Disability as a term is somewhat generic also, the question would be who did she file for disability with, Social Security? Her state rehabilitation commission? Workman's Compensation Commission? Veterans Administration? I can tell you from my own knowledge that the state's don't give out applicant information on this, and I seriously doubt SSA does either. I KNOW VA is very selective about what they release and who they release it to. I will be checking with someone I know who has worked in TX in state gvt handling disability determination in the rehab commission, and workman's comp commission later today to find out what the state's policy is, they all tend to be similar. I can say now concerning VA as a veteran in the system they will not release any information unless that veteran gives written permission for them to do so.

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Yet another mouse
(Anonymous)
2006-10-02 12:35 pm UTC (link)
What's most disturbing about this person who posted on Heidi's LJ, is that it shows exactly how easily strangers can find out about you, with only a name.

I would certainly like the person to start a LJ, though this affair, for lack of better word, is believeable but there's some parts of the story, like the hospitalisation, that are a bit... fishy.

Even if everything that Msscribe claims is true, then it was extremely probable (sp?) that she exaggerated everything to epic proportions

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Re: Yet another mouse - [info]notjo, 2006-10-02 02:00 pm UTC
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Re: Yet another mouse - [info]panthea, 2006-10-03 02:40 am UTC
Re: Yet another mouse - [info]darsynia, 2006-10-03 04:22 am UTC
Re: Yet another mouse - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 03:36 pm UTC
Re: Yet another mouse - [info]notjo, 2006-10-02 03:40 pm UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-10-02 01:16 pm UTC (link)
May I just say how happy I am to see another post from you. Of the three fandom exposes posted, yours is by far the best. I think it's great that you're still following up Msscribe this long after the original posts. Whether this anon is telling the truth or not, I have every confidence you'll figure it out.

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-10-02 02:32 pm UTC (link)
Um, correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't it be impossible to find out even that small amount of medical information re: Msscribe? Because of, y'know, HIPAA?

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[info]angua9
2006-10-02 03:20 pm UTC (link)
there is a record, although it isn’t a police report, rather an incident report, and at the time msscribe appeared to still be using her maiden name and not her married one. In addition, the name ‘Louis’ turned out not to be a legal name, but a nickname

I'm sorry, but no. When I called the Dayton police, I gave them both Msscribe's names -- her married name and her maiden name. I did NOT specify a police report, but asked for any kind of occurrence or complaint that might have happened, and they very definitely stated that there was nothing of the kind. Also, this person says, "the charges were dropped." If there were any "charges" to "drop," the police would have told me about it!


I won't say this person isn't telling the truth, but it seems to me they are carefully shading their story, telling only the parts that seem to support Msscribe's story and not the parts that support [info]charlottelennox's charges. For instance, they say "I was able to access their college information" about the person with a name almost-but-not-completely-like Clarabella's, but not one word about whether that college information included being a student at Rutgers University during the 2002-2003 school year as she claimed, or whether she was then 19 years old or lived in New Jersey as she claimed. They say that they have access to hospital records showing that Msscribe was in and out of the hospital during an unspecified three-year period, but they don't say anything about whether she was actually in the hospital from March 21-25 as she claimed, in the ICU being treated for a coma due to "acute vasogenic edema."

They say they have access to Msscribe's "tax records" but don't say anything about whether she did or didn't report income in 2003 from working as a backup singer in a recording studio and a PR person for a state senator. The claim to have a copy of an incident report about a stalking, but say nothing about whether the date is March 26, 2003.

And that bit about "I toyed with posting the report, but most of the information would be blacked out and I don’t think it would add all that much weight" -- okay, that part sounds exactly like Msscribe. It reminds me very much of all the promises she made to fax people copies of the "police report" she claimed she had.

I'll believe that when I see it.

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(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 03:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]angua9, 2006-10-02 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moeyknight, 2006-10-02 11:32 pm UTC
Nony Mouse P.I. - [info]oulangi, 2006-10-02 05:50 pm UTC
Re: Nony Mouse P.I. - [info]sashenka, 2006-10-02 06:46 pm UTC

[info]ashenmote
2006-10-02 03:32 pm UTC (link)
Hello, Charlotte! ^_^

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[info]jat_sapphire
2006-10-02 03:37 pm UTC (link)
Whatever the truth of the alleged incident report (and I hope we'll find out more soon), I note that this story, if true, shows that Msscribe was lying in almost everything she ever said about "Louis," including that she "had him arrested" and "took him to court," that she had a police report, that he was expelled from his school, that he hacked into her computer and twelve others, that he sent her threatening emails that were "all printed out and sitting in a little file at the campus police department," and, presumably, that he was a member of Gryffindor Tower. Also, it destroys the explanation of how Clarabella discovered Fermatojam's email password and "hacked into" his accounts.

This is what fascinates me about the new ...um, development, since I don't think we can have enough faith in it to call it "information."

What good does this stuff do anyone even if everything the anonymous posted is true? Msscribe still lied, and she still bolstered her fan reputation with those lies. Whether the truth is that she made it all up or whether the facts slightly resemble some of her fictions is immaterial.

I think, actually, in the ultimate analysis of What This All Says About Fandom, one of the most interesting parts would be a theory which takes into account your history and the responses to it. The need to tell conflicting stories about BNFs seems as strong as any other need connected with their creation, adoration and fall.

Really, that's fascinating.

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(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2006-10-02 03:43 pm UTC
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[info]pyratejenni
2006-10-02 03:56 pm UTC (link)
It's good to have you back, lady!

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[info]mrs_bombastic
2006-10-02 04:10 pm UTC (link)
Isn't it sort of, well, odd that the two people who are supposed to be "real" but ZOMG SO DONE WITH FANDOM even know about the MsScribe story? Then, that they feel compelled to come forward in these shadowy BUT DON'T YOU DARE FOLLOW UP ways?

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(no subject) - [info]catslash, 2006-10-02 10:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]moeyknight, 2006-10-03 01:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2006-10-05 12:13 am UTC

[info]narcissam
2006-10-02 05:05 pm UTC (link)
Also, good on hedwig_snowy for bringing the wank to the table. (And the dumb too.)

I don't know that the truth is exactly what the author's want. Either way, I'm not sure that the means justify the ends. While it may place doubt on some of their 'research', searching criminal and private records to settle a dispute within a fandom can tend to lend credence to their point of going to any means neccessary to obtain an objective. I was suggesting using personal recollection and documented evidence, but this may be stretching it a bit. Who's to say that someone might not use the same techniques and then another uses it and pretty soon...well, you get my point. If there is a law infraction in any of this 'history', I would suggest letting law enforcement and the courts decide rather than individual searches of private records.

Just for the record, I don't see what they gain from any of this other than some smug satisfaction that in one small way or the other they could actually be right about something, for the first time in their miserable, demented lives. They certainly aren't doing it to promote the 'fandom' in any way, shape, or form despite their protestations to how it will 'cleanse' it. It's just some vindictive individuals who somehow see this as a way to become 'famous'. Good luck with that.


Charlotte, I'm sure you're wounded at how suspicion has been cast on the only thing you've ever been right about in your miserable, demented life.

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[info]smo
2006-10-02 05:49 pm UTC (link)
I smell tax fraud.

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Oh, come now, Charlotte
(Anonymous)
2006-10-02 06:16 pm UTC (link)
My dear, your slip is showing. Your original posts were engaging, informed and verified, and what\'s more, they brought something new to the table. This, by contrast, is reasonably well organized and written, but has no substance.

\"I do not believe... it seems that... I tend to believe... I am inclined to be suspicious... I have no idea if this can be verified...\"

Pure speculation, and certainly not up to your prior investigative/rhetorical standard.

Then, too, there is the peculiar dissension between you and angua9 in the interpretation of the anon remarks about MsScribe-- peculiar, I say, because you are angua9.

This is not merely widely believed; it can be factually demonstrated using the same IP address logic you used to show that MsScribe had various sockpuppets.

What\'s that you say, Charlotte? You\'ve left no IP tracks? Ah, but you have, my dear; you have. As of last night, for instance, you were a Road Runner user in Houston TX with IP address 24.174.80.222.

The distinctive Anguaness of this information is rather striking. (Angua: Try going to www.showmyipaddress.com from your home computer. Compare the above with what you find there. Bad Penny mods: Argue with me if you please, but the information I have is quite irrefutable -- and easy to demonstrate. I don\'t think you really want to lie in public in your own forum, now, do you?)

So really, my good Duchess, there seem to have been two points to this post:

1) Opine ambiguously on the anon comments in Heidi\'s journal, and

2) Disagree with yourself (Angua9) in a public forum, via a sockpuppet (Charlotte Lennox)... very much in the same manner as MsScribe.

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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]oulangi, 2006-10-02 06:28 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]puipui, 2006-10-02 06:28 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]theantifooosh, 2006-10-02 11:59 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]billymasqets, 2006-10-02 06:30 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 06:30 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 06:31 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]slackerbitch, 2006-10-02 06:43 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]seeshellirun, 2006-10-02 07:31 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]branwyn, 2006-10-02 06:49 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]breecita, 2006-10-02 06:54 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]charlottelennox, 2006-10-02 06:57 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]slackerbitch, 2006-10-02 07:34 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]narcissam, 2006-10-02 07:45 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]tao_tao, 2006-10-02 08:03 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]tehrin, 2006-10-02 07:18 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]sheep, 2006-10-02 08:47 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - (Anonymous), 2006-10-04 01:50 am UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]redcoast, 2006-10-02 09:52 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]bubosquared, 2006-10-09 12:34 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]peachespig, 2006-10-02 09:07 pm UTC
Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - (Anonymous), 2006-10-02 09:17 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]tinybubbles, 2006-10-05 02:35 pm UTC
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Re: Oh, come now, Charlotte - [info]blackmamba, 2006-10-05 05:19 pm UTC
Oh come on, 72.36.194.154 - [info]princessdot, 2006-10-09 04:30 am UTC

[info]billymasqets
2006-10-02 06:28 pm UTC (link)
Fishsticks. Maybe it goes to show what I've been wasting my online-time with over the years, but this mouse reminds me of really poor apologetics. Lack of sources for one. The faux-sceptic attitude. Treating the near-misses as hits. I particularly like this one. Sure, there's no Louis Movello charged with stalking Dionne Marriedname, but there was a person with her maiden name stalked by someone who might have been called Louis, and there were almost charges.

Nope, still not converted.

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(no subject) - [info]renata_hpjc, 2006-10-03 09:46 pm UTC

[info]ingrid
2006-10-02 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Yay, I get to pull out my icon again!

Other than that, I got nuthin'. Except maybe Heidi ought to leave it be, but I know that personality type ... she'll NEVER give up until she's justified.

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(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-10-02 09:56 pm UTC

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Re: Since you asked - [info]vigilanterodent, 2006-10-02 10:18 pm UTC
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MODly information - [info]princessdot, 2006-10-09 03:21 am UTC

[info]breecita
2006-10-02 10:19 pm UTC (link)
I just screened the EXTREMELY creepy double post from the psychotic sounding mouse. Seriously. Get a grip.

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The Post above this.
(Anonymous)
2006-10-02 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Holy shit, do you have no shame at all? You realise that posting all this personal information is highly unethical, right? I hope you're found and fired from your job involving personal information.

TheXPhial on LJ

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[info]salacious
2006-10-02 11:16 pm UTC (link)
A search of Fred Freibott on findlaw.com reveals no cases involving MsScribe's real name or J & P Trucking, LLC. It's possible that findlaw doesn't list all of the cases, but so far that case is not there.

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[info]saralina25
2006-10-03 03:17 am UTC (link)
*finishes off drink* I poured that in celebration for something completely different, but hell, I can celebrate Charlotte's return as well!

I can't add anything that isn't all ready here, but I'm wishing I hadn't left my computer to pour the drink and miss the start of this.

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[info]slwatson
2006-10-03 05:19 am UTC (link)
To be honest, I just tracked down pretty much everything there is on Google about MsScribe's RL. It took me two hours and a little bit of thinking. That's it. Her real name, her addy, her phone numbers; pictures, webbies, e-mail. Her hubby's place of employment. Her church. Her kids' names.

To date, I had not known her real name, aside her first name and her screennames. I just used the fact that the Internet keeps everything, in some form, for a long time. I've spent some time in the past as an amateur historical researcher; therefore, it really wasn't hard.

I don't plan on doing anything with it. I just wanted to see if it could be found.

So, honestly, a lot of what the mouse says should still be taken with a grain of salt. At least, until the mouse can be verified as telling the truth.

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(no subject) - [info]shadowkitty, 2006-10-03 10:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]slwatson, 2006-10-03 08:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mrs_bombastic, 2006-10-03 12:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]slwatson, 2006-10-03 08:43 pm UTC

[info]shadwing
2006-10-03 12:22 pm UTC (link)
Is it me, or are the mouses claims making Msscribe look worse? The new claims and how I see them.

1) She was in the hospital, but was it as serious as claimed? I mean the woman was posting via laptop in a few days post admission, this from the same woman who needed help dressing herself because she was so badly injured.

2) Again more evidence that Clarabella might have been real, but definatly way different than her online counterpart, she was at school AFTER she left the Fandom and this directly contridicts her Portkey Bio.

Also a note on Medical Aides, some states require both training and licencing in order to do in home medical care, or at the very least their clients want some sort of proof that whomever they hire has some credientials, usually in the form of some sort of nursing training. If she was listed on Msscribe's taxes as a 'Home Health Aide', this gives the impression that "Clarabella" was some sort of trained professional, which casts even more doubt on the Msscribe's story that "Clarabella" was a mere 19 year old collage student who helped around on occasion. If the latter was true she should have been named 'Maid' or 'Nanny' not 'Home Health Aide'

3) She was a backup singer....but not at the time Msscribe stated and outright lie, and MIGHT have been employed by a State Senator, this casts doubt on the tale that she resigned do to being outted as HP Smut Author.

4) Given how well we have researched this, I'm ready to dismiss this one outright. If such a database was online and publically available why just SAY it's online, why not post the URL to both the database and the document in question? My guess it is 'online' but not publiclly available which again leads to the theory about trusting someone whose willing to break laws in order to clear the name of someobody whose been outted as a troll and a sockpuppeter. Unless said mouse has a personal stake in it all.

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(no subject) - [info]shadwing, 2006-10-03 01:03 pm UTC
Concerning Home Health Aids and HIPPA...and - (Anonymous), 2006-10-04 01:46 am UTC
Re: Concerning Home Health Aids and HIPPA...and - [info]shadwing, 2006-10-04 03:46 am UTC
Questioning how bad someone's illness is - [info]tinybubbles, 2006-10-03 04:00 pm UTC
Re: Questioning how bad someone's illness is - [info]shadwing, 2006-10-03 05:08 pm UTC



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