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The Duchess of Richmond ([info]charlottelennox) wrote in [info]bad_penny,
@ 2006-06-23 02:22:00


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The Msscribe Story, Afterword Two
Hello again. I'm sorry to return like a... well, like a bad penny, but I have some information I must share with you. People have been wonderfully generous about sending things in, and I have two that I feel I ought to share with you now.

First, Cassandra Claire/[info]epicyclical has emailed [info]angua9 a screencap of Fermatojam's comment on her livejournal on March 26, 2003, showing the IP. It is 68.82.67.208. Combined with the information from Chapter Four, Chapter Five, this and this comment from [info]flyingphoenix and this comment from Eljuno in the Bad_Penny community, that Delaware Comcast Cable IP has now been captured for the following dates, posters, and places:
December 23, 2002 - Msscribe - Portkey registration - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
December 31, 2002 - Clarabella - Portkey registration - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
January 18, 2003 - Clarabella - Sugar Quill post - contributed by Angua and Dianora, SQ mods
March 23, 2003 - Clarabella - Portkey post about Msscribe in hospital - contributed by Flyingphoenix, former PK mod
March 26, 2003 - Fermatojam - Cassandra Claire's LJ - contributed by Cassandra Claire
April? 2003 - Fermatojam - Gryffindor Tower registration - contributed by Carissa_lynn, GT admin
May 7, 2003 - Pottersginny - Harry_and_Ginny LJ community - contributed by Bohemianvixen, community maintainer
May 31, 2003 - Msscribe - 3 emails to Carissa_lynn with copies to Praetorianguard - contributed by Carissa_lynn, GT admin
September 2003(?) - Karma_bitch - Fandom_wank - contributed by Oulangi from Eljuno, F_W mod
I'd say that all holds together nicely.

And I would like to thank Cassandra Claire very much for offering this additional evidence.



In a comment to my Journalfen journal here, a poster who later identified himself or herself as Ishie on Livejournal said that he or she lived near the University of Dayton and had additional information to offer:
I'm not involved in any of these matters except as a curious (and somewhat obsessed now, admittedly) bystander. However, in the interest of making this as complete a record as it can possibly be*, I have some more information for you regarding the University of Dayton and its alleged connection to this. If you would care to receive it, of course.

I have no interest in making a name for myself in any way connected to this entire debacle and would prefer to send it to you via email. Whether you use my name is entirely up to you, I only ask for the chance to share it with you. Whether it is used in your telling of the tale is entirely up to you and I will not quibble with whatever decision you make. Is there an address to which I can send it?

Yours,
A Hometown Nosy Parker

* I will admit a prejudice here -- UD is my local university and I did some digging to see if anything MsScribe alleged could be substantiated. No one besmirches the Flyers unless they live here!

These are the emails Ishie then sent me:
It's really kind of overkill at this point, but I did it anyway:

I spoke to L____ in the Media Relations department at the university twice over the last few days. She confirmed that in her research she found that no student named Louis Movello was ever registered at the university.

(Note: the university's most recent rules for student behavior has a passage regarding disciplinary hearings, expulsions and the maintenance of records.
Records of serious disciplinary actions resulting in probation, suspension or dismissal are
maintained for a period of seven years from the date of a student's graduation or permanent separation from the University unless, pursuant to a written request, an official order to expunge a specific record is issued by the University Hearing Board.

[http://www.udayton.edu/~studev/UniversityofDaytonAug2005.pdf, page 29] )

I spoke to someone in the IT department, who requested anonymity. Accordingly, I can only report that to the best of this person's knowledge, the IT department would be notified in such a case [as Movello's] once it had been brought to the school's attention. It is also his opinion that in a similar hypothetical situation, it could be investigated by either UD's Public Safety department or the City of ____ police department -- the two bodies share a good working relationship and often consult or work jointly. He also said that he can not remember a student of the university being accused of internet stalking, nor has he any knowledge of an investigation into the use of campus resources for such purposes during the timeframe given.

(Of interest to very few: one of UD's most famous sons is Don Novello, aka Father Guido Sarducci. Early in his career, he pretended to be a man named Lazlo Toth in correspondence with celebrities. Many of these letters and the responses he received can be found in compilation books by Novello. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Novello] )

I am awaiting callbacks from three additional contacts, though the first response was enough to convince me, after angua_9's findings. However, I wouldn't feel right about leaving it at that. MsScribe made some very serious charges against this alleged student; I want to be certain that she hasn't libeled an innocent person. I will update you when I hear back from these contacts.

I am keeping a full transcript of all calls/times/dates and names/numbers of contacts. If you need more detail in order to substantiate any of this information or to establish credibility should you use any of it, I am more than happy to oblige. I have only suppressed the names and contact information in this account in order to protect the identities of the people to whom I spoke.

One further note: I would not object to having my LJ name attached to this report if it would help to establish credibility. However, I don't want to give the impression that I am trying to gain a greater visibility in any fandom by contributing to your account. My only motivation in doing this is to clear up any of the loose threads in the investigation so far.

That, and once an intrepid high-school reporter, always an intrepid high-school reporter!
and
I've heard back from two of my additional contacts and can say with certainty that there was no Louis Movello (or Lewis Movello, L. Mevello/Mavello, or any other spelling) at the University of Dayton as a student in the past five years, nor was any complaint filed with the university regarding an allegation of internet stalking by Dionne [last name] or any other person during the spring of 2003. I also verified angua9's information with the City of Dayton Police records department -- they have no record of a Louis Movello or a complaint filed by Dionne [last name].

I have a call in to the HR department at the university on the off-chance that there was an L. Movello employed by the university during that time frame. However, I think it highly unlikely as I can find no records of a Movello living in the Dayton area within the past five years.

So. There you have it. A straw man, and not even a well-constructed one.

(Again, I do have a transcript of all calls and contact names/phone numbers should you need them for verification purposes.)
I should also mention that I received another unsolicited email forwarding an email from a friend who had called the University of Dayton requesting information about a former student named Louis Movello and was told:
"I have no one on file by than name, nor anyone with that last name, nor any close spellings."
I think we should now count the University of Dayton as completely cleared from the suspicion of having had a computer-hacking student named Louis Movello in attendance, and cease questioning the school before we begin to cause alarm and comment -- though I expect the university will not be displeased to have had that part of the story disproved.

Again, I am very grateful to both my helpful informants.



There is another thing I ought to tell you. I said in the previous Afterword -- now known as Afterword One -- that I intended to leave the copy of this story at the Bad_Penny community unrevised from that point forward to preserve it for history. Unfortunately, I have had to adjust that plan slightly. Journalfen has received a complaint from someone representing himself as Msscribe's husband, charging that some of my quoting and the use of a icon photo of Msscribe from Msscribe's livejournal constitutes an infringement of copyright. At Journalfen's request, I have edited my story -- and will edit it further as seems advisable -- to remove any items that seem likely to elicit such complaints.



One final item: I regret to say that the publication of this story has led to the trolling of some participants' journals with unpleasant anonymous and signed comments. Please don't do that! And if some of these unpleasant comments are coming from Msscribe herself, I hope we will collectively be able to bring that to light. I myself have harvested two or three IPs that I believe merit further examination.

Thank all of you so much for the helpful comments and emails. Right now, the volume is overwhelming, but I will try to process it all.



Afterword Three


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[info]jetamors
2006-06-23 07:15 pm UTC (link)
Y HELO THAR DELAWAREAN (proof)

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-06-23 07:16 pm UTC (link)
She can run but she can't hide. ;)

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[info]narcissam
2006-06-23 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Yes, if you're a paid user, You can rename an LJ to make it look like it's deleted. But your old comments will show your new name. The moment I saw she was deleted, I went to check her latest comment on Cassandra Claire's LJ. The really ironic one expressing excitement at CC's plans to write a story about fandom called 'Fangirl'.

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[info]jetamors
2006-06-23 07:25 pm UTC (link)
*snickers* BTW, is there a limit to how many times one can rename?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 08:02 pm UTC (link)
AFAIK, no. Just have to be willing to pay the $15 fee.

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Dionne's permanent LJ account status
(Anonymous)
2006-06-25 04:23 am UTC (link)
She has a 'permanent account' not a 'paid account', so would she still have to pay the $15 fee for changing her name?

And what the hell did she do to deserve a permanent account anyway? I think LJ should be told what she was doing with this the account, because surely all the manipulating she did doesn't warrant the perk of a permanent account unless you consider 'siginificant bitchiness and sockpupeting' to be the same as contributing "a significant amount of time and effort to the LiveJournal project".

On the description page of what a permanent account it says:

Permanent Accounts are usually given to staff members or long-term volunteers who have contributed a significant amount of time and effort to the LiveJournal project. Although Permanent Accounts have been infrequently sold in the past, they are not guaranteed to be sold in the future. Future Permanent Account sales, if any, will be announced in the news journal.

Permanent Accounts have all Paid Account features without an expiration date, plus the following:

Upload up to 100 userpics versus the 30 userpics offered to Paid accounts.
Maximum number of loyalty userpics.
Access to 10240 MB (10 GB) of ScrapBook photo storage space versus the 2 GB offered to Paid accounts.


Allie
alliekiwi on LJ

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Re: Dionne's permanent LJ account status - [info]fandom_biatch, 2006-06-25 03:33 pm UTC

teawithvoldy
2006-06-24 08:27 am UTC (link)
Man... it's like chasing a rainbow, but never finding where it starts.

ahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

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[info]ingrid
2006-06-23 07:19 pm UTC (link)
So when do we get the Greta Garbo'ish, "I vant to be left ALOOOONE"?

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 07:21 pm UTC (link)
Well, [info]dejaspirit's "name" in her user info is "Solitude" :D.

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[info]ingrid
2006-06-23 07:23 pm UTC (link)
*snerk* Except for thousands of jeering onlookers, yeah, I'd say she's kinda alone.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-06-23 10:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]firebad, 2006-06-24 12:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mudblood428, 2006-06-24 12:17 am UTC
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[info]canisetlupus
2006-06-23 08:24 pm UTC (link)
If she claims she's whispering from the grave, I'll check myself into an asylum.

(/insert random Mina de Malfois' reference).

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(no subject) - [info]ruaha56, 2006-06-24 03:23 am UTC

[info]narcissam
2006-06-23 07:22 pm UTC (link)
You know, I might feel sorry if she hadn't just resurrected Clarabella. Doh.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 07:24 pm UTC (link)
What's the link to "clarabella"'s LJ?

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[info]ingrid
2006-06-23 07:27 pm UTC (link)
No, no, Clarabella's moved into a Texas airport after being evacuated from Katrina almost a year ago and omg, we are so very, very mean in mocking her pain that she had to panhandle a few dollars to use the terminal's internet connection and set us all straight!

(See, if she's not going to post her bs story, I'll be forced to do it for her, damn it!)

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-06-23 07:30 pm UTC

[info]figgy
2006-06-23 07:28 pm UTC (link)
I want her to just admit it all. Just so we know what really was, and then it can die.

But God knows that isn't going to happen.

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[info]flyingphoenix
2006-06-23 07:44 pm UTC (link)
She posted as Clarabella? Any links?

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(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-06-23 07:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]flyingphoenix, 2006-06-23 07:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2006-06-23 08:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]southernbangel, 2006-06-23 08:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jail, 2006-06-23 10:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-06-24 06:52 am UTC
What about her friends?
(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 11:50 pm UTC (link)
Any insight on how we're supposed to think of her friends (http://hermorrine.livejournal.com/291504.html)? Because not all of them want sympathy and they shouldn't all be lumped and you're sort of related to that group. So yeah.

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Re: What about her friends? - [info]narcissam, 2006-06-24 10:03 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-06-25 06:28 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 07:23 pm UTC (link)
What I love about this more than anything - her new user name: "Solitude"

This is better than TV.

(laurenc21@livejournal)

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[info]metrocowboy
2006-06-23 09:32 pm UTC (link)
This has been entertaining me non-stop for over a week...and right now, I have a stomach virus, forget cartoons...this is the shit.

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[info]schmendrick
2006-06-24 05:39 am UTC (link)
Hi there, Liz's friend! I'm on her LJ flist and recognize your icon. Anyhow, one just can't make this shit up, can they? I had a hard enough time explaining the whole Victoria Bitter saga to people - I don't know how I'm ever going to get straight all the twists and turns in this story!

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(no subject) - [info]metrocowboy, 2006-06-24 05:41 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 07:41 pm UTC (link)
Me? I'd just fold my tents and creep away. Does the Baby Dyke story really have such merit that it must be preserved on every single LJ identity she takes on?

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[info]mer1973
2006-06-23 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Of course it does! It's was copyrighted and everything! I

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[info]o_o
2006-06-23 10:20 pm UTC (link)
I think it's not so much that, as that her journal has been paid to be permanent. And permanent journals are liek, totally speshul, yo.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-23 07:50 pm UTC (link)
Oh, my, that's one scary journal. There are all these entries, seemingly going back for weeks, but they are all dated today.

Plus she's claiming to live in Texas. PLS GET THIS WOMAN OUT OF MY STATE. I don't even want her pseudo-imagination in my state.

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(Anonymous)
2006-06-25 03:20 am UTC (link)
"I don't even want her pseudo-imagination in my state."

LOL! Seriously. That's beautiful.

Shinelikestars1 at LJ (it's being retarded still)

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