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aerobot ([info]aerobot) wrote in [info]clairvoyantwank,
@ 2006-10-27 18:20:00
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Entry tags:abortion, we don't need another otf_wank

Remember Biting Beaver? The woman who tried to get emergancy contraception, and there was a gigantic parade of wankers calling her a baby-killer and so forth?

Guess what?

The EC failed. She was forced to have an abortion.

We've already got rumblings of more wank. There's a poster under the name 'a father' who asks why she couldn't have given up that baby for adoption:

You made the mistake of getting pregnant. The human whose life you ended didn't have anything to do with your mistake. Couldn't you have lived with your mistake and then given the child up for adoption? Nine months is not really all that long of a time, and as I have seen through my wife, childbirth isn't all too bad of an experience.

You fail at life so hard they're sending you back to pre-school, my friend. In any case, she's undoubtedly going to get even MORE hate-mail because she's a OMG BABYKILLAR. Poor girl.


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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 04:51 am UTC (link)
I think everybody knows that, but they never really expect it to happen to them. It was most likely a miscalculation on her part to continue that particular kind of penetrative sex at all. For a feminist who's supposed to be all in charge of her sexuality, she seems to have a limited idea about what constitutes letting her partner, "stick his dick in [her]." Whatever the case, I still stand by my original statement; Sodomy, yahy!

civilbloodshed (being the mouse you replied to)

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[info]smo
2006-10-28 05:26 am UTC (link)
That's right. She didn't expect the condom to break, and she is therefore a H0R.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 05:51 am UTC (link)
Nononononono! *backs away slowly* I'm not calling her a whore at all, I'm just saying that from reading her blog it seems she believes vaginal intercourse is the only viable form of penetration that she could achive in a sexual relationship. Really, I was advicating kinky sex and a more in-depth exploration of her sex and sexuality from a feminist POV. You know, turning tragedy into triumph and all that.

civilbloodshed

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-10-28 03:30 pm UTC (link)
I think you need to stop and think carefully about what you are doing re: this woman, and really examine what you've been saying, and I think you'll understand why you're coming off as a horrible person right now. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it's by accident.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 07:43 pm UTC (link)
Ok, so I did read over my comment, and have concluded that people took offence that I said, "[f]or a feminist who's supposed to be all in charge of her sexuality[...]" Which I think could be misconstrued to say that I believe feminists are "H0R[s]." That could not be further from the truth. What I meant was that I thought feminist, both women and men, have a much more realistic point of view about gender and sex, and that I thought this woman in particular would be more open to unorthodox forms of sex, being unencumbered by traditional gender rolls appropriated by men and women in consensual heterosexual sex. So, yes, if I came off as a total dick it was my fault for not being more specific about what I meant, and I apologize for it.

civilbloodshed

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-10-28 08:21 pm UTC (link)
The point

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Your head.

You are passing judgments on this woman for her sex life. Stop it. You do not get to tell another person how she should conduct her sex life unless she fucking asks you to, because it's not your business and you do not know all the facts. Stop being a patronizing asshole who tells someone else how she ought to live her life.

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2006-10-28 11:35 pm UTC (link)
... *gets big, shiny hearts in her eyes*

I love you.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-29 04:14 am UTC (link)
"You are passing judgments on this woman for her sex life."

Err, but, isn't that what we do to celebrities all the time? And politicians?

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-10-29 04:16 am UTC (link)
Doesn't make it right, dude.

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[info]luna_hoshino
2006-10-29 04:52 am UTC (link)
Yeah, and look at what happened to Clinton because of it.

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[info]tez
2006-10-28 06:10 am UTC (link)
I love you.

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[info]smo
2006-10-28 10:56 pm UTC (link)
It's mutual.

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[info]tez
2006-10-29 01:31 am UTC (link)
*basks in the luv*

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[info]panthea
2006-10-28 05:50 am UTC (link)
Yeah, God forbid she actually wants vaginal sex. She's totally just doing it for her boyfriend's sake.

You know what would have made an abortion totally unnecessary? IF SHE COULD'VE JUST GOTTEN THE FUCKING EC ON TIME IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 06:00 am UTC (link)
Yeah, God forbid she actually wants vaginal sex. She's totally just doing it for her boyfriend's sake.

Well on her blog entry Incoherent Ramblings and Stream of consciousness thoughts, she does make it seem as though that's the reason, although really I think she's just trying to make a point. However, I am fully aware that vaginal sex is awesome and is totally desirable, but I don't see that it can't be stimulated manually by her husband or with sex toys.

As for the EC she says, "When the condom failed I was in that few day window of fertility and from what I understand EC wouldn’t have done a damn thing anyway."

civilbloodshed

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[info]panthea
2006-10-28 06:01 am UTC (link)
Yeah, you know what? That's still a raging crock of bullshit.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 06:12 am UTC (link)
I can respect that, it's cool.

civilbloodshed

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[info]tez
2006-10-28 06:24 am UTC (link)
Glad someone can respect it.

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[info]aposiopetic
2006-10-28 06:23 am UTC (link)
I'll start out by apologizing for the TMIness of this comment (so definitely feel free to skip over it), but this whole thing is already a bit TMI already.

However, I am fully aware that vaginal sex is awesome and is totally desirable, but I don't see that it can't be stimulated manually by her husband or with sex toys.

It isn't the same though. I realize that that sounds like a lame argument, but there are times when someone wants a particular kind of sex. When I was with my exboyfriend sometimes I was further along than I realized and foreplay turned into the whole show. As I'm a one orgasm at a time kind of girl (and my girly bits need their alone time after), that was it for me for at least a few hours, if not the whole night. And those times, yeah, I got off just fine, but it wasn't what I had wanted and I was left feeling disappointed and unsatisfied.

So yeah, she was definitely within her rights to have safer sex of her choosing with a consentual partner. It's really ludicrous to me that people are even debating that.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 06:52 am UTC (link)
It's not a lame argument, she's a grown woman and can do as she likes and have sex however she likes. I meant that if her life was in danger, and I believe it was, it would be the easiest thing in the world to explore other avenues of intimacy with her husband until such a time as it becomes safe continue vaginal intercourse. But as far as being unsatisfied, I can only say we all have a different type of stimulation that pleases us best, so I can understand if vaginal sex is the only kind of sex the feels comfortable with and/or likes. Personally however, in my relationships with women I've never been unsatisfied because their lack of male genitalia.

civilbloodshed

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 09:24 am UTC (link)
Nobody's debating her choice. Like it's been said a hundred times before, she's a grown woman and she can do what she wants - but that doesn't make her (or her boyfriend!) any less irresponsible.

Condoms break. More often than you'd think.

Yeah, she had to get an abortion. That doesn't make her a monster or a whore or a victim. It makes her a stastic.

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(Anonymous)
2006-10-28 09:24 am UTC (link)
Statistic. Ouch.

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[info]feenix
2006-10-28 04:06 pm UTC (link)
Nobody's debating her choice. Like it's been said a hundred times before, she's a grown woman and she can do what she wants - but that doesn't make her (or her boyfriend!) any less irresponsible.

It certainly sounds like you're debating her choice here, mouse.

And I'm quite amused by your idea that she's OMGSOIRRESPONSIBLE for (horror of horrors!) using only a condom.

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