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Mer (camilla) wrote in [info]clairvoyantwank,
@ 2005-11-21 13:09:00
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Entry tags:community: blackfolk, fandom: harry potter, icons, person: msscribe, racism

Because just once won't do
A poll in [info]blackfolk, about those icons.

EtA1: fixed tags.

EtA2: [info]darkrosetiger sets the icons' record straight, and I do totally agree with [info]keeni84: I just don't think that getting people riled up just because she wants to do an experiment is the way to do it.


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[info]sabinelagrande
2005-11-21 05:21 am UTC (link)
::headdesk::

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[info]sheep
2005-11-21 03:31 pm UTC (link)
*hands sabinelagrande an icepack*

I managed to kill myself yesterday by headdesking too much. What can I say, Harmonians....

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[info]sepiamagpie
2005-11-21 05:30 am UTC (link)
For the record? That karynwhatever girl is starting to scare me more every time I see her talking.

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 06:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-11-21 06:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 06:14 am UTC

[info]memii
2005-11-21 05:30 am UTC (link)
All arguments about this just being light_music ranting in her own journal are out the window now, I guess.

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(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-11-21 05:50 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]memii, 2005-11-21 05:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 05:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2005-11-21 10:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 05:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]memii, 2005-11-21 05:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 06:03 am UTC

[info]cat_mcdougall
2005-11-21 05:31 am UTC (link)
I... Wow.

1) Yes I know the American Civil War was a huge tragedy.
2) Yes, slavery in all its forms is even more terrible.
3) No, I'm not black.

But damn. Can't anyone take a joke anymore? Because sooner or later, if you talk to someone, and joke about anything you're going to offend them.

And this:

I just don't think they've got a keen grasp of history.

Whether they're poc or white--they're coming from a place of entitlement and privilege.

That just cracks me up. Way to generalise!

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 05:54 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 03:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loki, 2005-11-21 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2005-11-21 05:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 05:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2005-11-21 05:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 06:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doroc_sabah, 2005-11-24 08:01 pm UTC

[info]ashenmote
2005-11-21 05:31 am UTC (link)
Oh noes! Ill-informed people support me in e-mails polls!

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(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-21 05:53 am UTC

[info]qem_chibati
2005-11-21 05:32 am UTC (link)
Is that person trying to start trouble?

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(no subject) - [info]keri, 2005-11-21 06:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]keri, 2005-11-21 06:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-22 11:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2005-11-23 12:13 am UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2005-11-21 05:53 am UTC (link)
Damn, that beats the media in out-of-context.

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[info]skewed_tartan
2005-11-21 06:02 am UTC (link)
Would you question your involvement with a group of people who used these userpics?

Would it be different if they were using the icons only in a place known for it's off color comedy and controversial topics of discussion?


I do declare! I do believe we are being takin' seriously!

(OMG! *Sexist* Icon!)

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(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-11-21 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skewed_tartan, 2005-11-21 06:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-11-21 07:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 03:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-21 03:34 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 03:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ruby_tuesday, 2005-11-22 06:10 am UTC

[info]chaimonkey
2005-11-21 06:13 am UTC (link)
[info]recumbentgoat: Racist

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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-11-21 08:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 03:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2005-11-22 08:15 pm UTC
First post and stirring shit already :P
[info]ashenmote
2005-11-21 06:26 am UTC (link)
I'm sure important black person [name withheld tactfully because I'm good like that] would be nothing but delighted if she knew that [info]light_music uses her memory to advance her petty grudge wars against some internet community.

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[info]jrs1980
2005-11-21 07:11 am UTC (link)
The majority of those using the icons are white; would your impression of them be different if they were black?

Er, was there a race demographic poll I missed?

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(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-21 07:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ironymaiden, 2005-11-21 06:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-22 02:20 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-22 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ironymaiden, 2005-11-23 08:16 am UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-23 03:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-21 07:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]qem_chibati, 2005-11-21 07:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]altoidsaddict, 2005-11-21 09:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]eljuno, 2005-11-21 02:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]doroc_sabah, 2005-11-24 07:57 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 03:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-11-22 01:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-21 02:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]llama_treats, 2005-11-21 03:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-11-21 04:45 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-21 04:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-11-21 04:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep, 2005-11-21 05:29 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-21 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2005-11-21 08:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-11-22 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2005-11-22 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-11-22 02:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rotten_fish, 2005-11-22 09:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-21 05:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tintin, 2005-11-21 09:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-22 02:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]moonjaguar, 2005-11-21 11:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-21 11:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2005-11-23 05:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caoilte, 2005-11-22 01:09 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-22 11:33 pm UTC

[info]zaliesiren
2005-11-21 08:22 am UTC (link)
The only thing I ask is that those familiar with the context in which these icons were created not respond.

Because remember kids: Context is bad and looking for context in regards to any statement means your using critical thinking and we can't be having with that! /Granny Weatherwax sorta-kinda

I'm indifferent on the icons. I wouldn't be comfortable using them but still... *headdesk*

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[info]prettyveela
2005-11-21 02:16 pm UTC (link)
It's interesting how people are either asking for the context, or are on FW and don't see the offense.

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[info]llama_treats
2005-11-21 03:33 pm UTC (link)
My lack of offense just goes to prove that I'm a tool of the white man, jews, the man, or whoever else is in vogue these days.

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(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2005-11-21 09:32 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]sabinelagrande, 2005-11-22 04:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]amxjm, 2005-11-22 05:29 am UTC

[info]narcissam
2005-11-21 04:32 pm UTC (link)
light_music: Although, to be fair I think she thought she was getting a grudge wank out of it and that I was lightnoteblend, someone she had history with.

What the hell? What history? I know lightnoteblend is a person on journalfen. I can't recall any more facts about the person. I didn't know who light_music was either. I do now, of course. :-)

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(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-21 04:48 pm UTC
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[info]marlo
2005-11-21 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Wow, way to not provide context and show the icons to a bunch of people who aren't Harry Potter fans. That'll prove your point.

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[info]prettyveela
2005-11-21 04:53 pm UTC (link)
Which is what I think they do. I mean, I can see using them that day or for that particular post or wank but using them even now? What sense does that make?

Does she know that people still use beaded pony, "he ded from coke", and crystalwank icons months/years after the wank happened? :|

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(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-21 05:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-21 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-21 05:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]llama_treats, 2005-11-21 05:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-21 05:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]llama_treats, 2005-11-21 06:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-21 06:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ironymaiden, 2005-11-21 06:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tangentialone, 2005-11-22 02:31 am UTC

[info]narcissam
2005-11-21 05:50 pm UTC (link)
I took the bait and posted on her LJ. I wasn't going to previously, but then there were those inaccuracies on [info]black_folk. So I gave in.

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[info]kylenne
2005-11-21 07:37 pm UTC (link)
Ye Gods, I need a "get out of my race, you're making it look wanky" icon. It really is way past time for this grudgewanky bitch to STFU. The sign says only 15 minutes per cross, and there's a queue starting to form that makes the line at the DMV look short.

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(no subject) - [info]zaliesiren, 2005-11-22 01:19 am UTC
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[info]skewed_tartan
2005-11-21 08:25 pm UTC (link)
I swear to God I thought that it was made in hate and I couldn't understand why anyone wasn't saying anything about it. Fortunately, I posted asking for more info, because, well, i hoped there was more to it that what I was seeing, but what if it's a new fan? A black fan who is already insecure in their fandom/geekdom existence. Would they have the resource to do what I did? Was there an explanation of the icon anywhere? It's not a huge issue, but I do think it is one worth talking about.


Um...this is an internet mock comm not a RL community doesn't she realize how incredibly wanky s/he's coming off as?

"OMG! What is some poor black newbie saw that and thought they were hated?! I mean its possible to ask for the context like I did but what if they don't?! Woe!"

How stupid does s/he think their own race is? That they cannot find info on their own?

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(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-21 08:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-22 02:27 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2005-11-25 08:45 am UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-25 11:42 am UTC

[info]narcissam
2005-11-21 08:51 pm UTC (link)
Oh gee.

I don't give a shit if they banned him or not they can do what they want. And if you'll look, not everyone disagreed with him and most barely challenged him. It's not a huge deal, I'm not saying it is, but it still makes me think and I'm not going to shut up and play nicely just because it hurts their image of themselves to hear that anything they've done could possibly be construed as negative or God forbid, racist.

What about the black joke on there? Was that appropriate? If you think so, that's your right to do so, but I don't. Call me a sensitive negro again but white people making black jokes ain't cool with me.

And here I thought we all told the mouse where to go and I deleted his attempts at icon-making.

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(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-21 09:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]memii, 2005-11-21 10:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-11-22 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-22 02:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kannaophelia, 2005-11-22 02:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 03:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-22 03:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2005-11-22 04:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 03:03 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-22 03:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]phosfate, 2005-11-22 11:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-23 05:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2005-11-22 03:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-22 03:40 am UTC

[info]ashenmote
2005-11-22 12:38 am UTC (link)
Meanwhile, on a livejournal next to you: We might be oblivious as to who said what why and when to the who now, but we sure as hell can rant about it!

Because that's what friends are for.

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(no subject) - [info]cat_mcdougall, 2005-11-22 12:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ignatius, 2005-11-22 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-22 02:03 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-22 03:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skewed_tartan, 2005-11-22 01:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-22 02:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2005-11-22 02:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 03:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-22 03:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 03:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-22 03:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 03:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-22 03:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 03:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ignatius, 2005-11-22 04:11 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-22 04:13 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]prettyveela, 2005-11-22 04:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]memii, 2005-11-22 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ignatius, 2005-11-22 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2005-11-22 04:42 am UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-22 04:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashenmote, 2005-11-22 04:56 pm UTC
I'm so tempted to post this there
[info]delarina
2005-11-22 02:16 am UTC (link)
"People say there are some things you can't joke about. They'll say, "you can't joke about rape. Rape's not funny." I say, "fuck you, I think it's hilarious. How do you like that?" I can prove to you that rape is funny. Picture Porky Pig raping Elmer Fudd."

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[info]telesilla
2005-11-22 03:23 am UTC (link)
Since when does satire presented out of context make any sense? *rolls eyes*

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(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2005-11-22 05:49 am UTC
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(no subject) - camilla, 2005-11-22 06:24 am UTC
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