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Subject:Deathtocapslock still doesn't like Pottermore. But JKR is worse for not liking the number 4.
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[info]the_labrat_army
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Time:2012-04-25 07:21 pm (UTC)
Okay, is it mean to admit that the first line of this post alone has me feeling like I just won Slytherfen Bingo? XD Seriously, who called it? I knew we'd be seeing the 'I hate HP sooo much I'll never ever contribute to JKR again, and especially not to Pottermore oh wait let me join that last one JUST TO SEE HOW BAD IT IS!!11!1" wanking from this crowd eventually. Lol. Just LOL. Even I haven't gotten around to joining Pottermore yet, and I love the HP series.

Also, I don't even know where to start with the whole Number 4 thing, it took me a minute just to get what the complaining was about. Really? Really?! Is there going to be a meltdown if JKR reveals that 9.5 is her lucky number, or that she loves owls best, or her daughter likes the colours red and gold? (or conversely, that green and silver are her two least favorite colors...although ngl, in JKR's shoes I think I'd've said that long ago even if it was BS, just to watch the implosion..)
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[info]the_labrat_army
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Time:2012-04-25 07:28 pm (UTC)
*" if JKR reveals that 9.5 is her lucky number"
Whoops, that's meant to be 9.75
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[info]dontgiveahoot
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Time:2012-04-26 03:00 am (UTC)
Is there going to be a meltdown if JKR reveals that 9.5 is her lucky number, or that she loves owls best, or her daughter likes the colours red and gold?

Yes, there would be. They've already decided that JKR has to be a malignant narcissist for not showering them with her sweet sweet validation via Snape, so any preference or idiosyncrasy she displays MUST be a moral judgement on her part that she's trying to enforce on the world. The fact that she based the Dursley home on a house she used to live in? Totally proof that she is a Dursley deep down. Because, of course, nobody ever writes what they know or brings their own idiosyncracies to their writing, unless they are a narcissist.
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[info]the_labrat_army
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Time:2012-04-28 01:39 am (UTC)
(Ugh, trying again, JF's not working for me tonight)

A quote from one of the posts bashing JKR/Harry: "I've found that a certain kind of child/person will happilly turn into that which they apparantly hated as a child." And no irony! That never gets old.

Also, am I the only one who facepalms whenever someone calls JKR the Petunia to Harry's Dudley? There are so many spots where that comparison goes wrong. Not the least of which being that far unlike a son who knows his mum will ignore or excuse his bad behavior, Harry has no bad behavior (or good behavior, or lazy behavior or studious or any damn behavior period) beyond that which JKR creates for him. o_0 She and only she decides what kind of behavior he'll exhibit. If Dudley had spent the entire series under Petunia's Imperius, they might have a case.

(Plus, JKR was over-the-top harsh to Harry even by novelist-character relationship standards ... She's killed his parents, stuck him with the Dursleys, dangled the hope of a loving godfather who'd take him away from the Dursleys and then killedhim through Harry's own mistake - for all the whining Slytherfen do about JKR's favoritism, Snape's just about the one character she's made suffer more.. Even the Malfoys escaped intact and free from taking responsibility for anything. Petunia would never have pulled that kind of crap with Dudley.)
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[info]ekaterinv
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Time:2012-04-28 02:27 am (UTC)
I think Lupin and Sirius both have a case for suffering more than Harry, though I think all three are past the point where comparisons mean squat. Other than that, I'm drawing a blank. Maybe Dumbledore. Really though, main characters in (good) fantasy novels almost always suffer horribly.

And the fact that these Snapefen can't see that Harry suffered horribly is incredibly creepy.
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[info]dontgiveahoot
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Time:2012-04-28 03:47 am (UTC)
I was going to say that - Harry, Sirius and Remus have all had ridiculously difficult and unfair lives. Harry had his parents murdered, became the world's best hope at fifteen months with all the responsibility and suffering that entails, grew up in an abusive family, was in mortal danger year after year, was tortured by the government for telling the truth, and lost a lot of people who were desperately dear to him. Sirius appears to have also had a very abusive upbringing, lost the brother-of-the-heart that took him in when things with his family reached crisis point, then spent twelve years in a literal hell on earth for a crime he had nothing to do with other than suspecting the wrong friend of treachery. Remus was deliberately infected with a horrific disease as a young child in an act of revenge against his dad and spent at least thirty years living in a society that taught him that being attacked like that meant he wasn't even human, to the point that that was probably part of the reason he was wrongly suspected of treachery in the first place.

Moreover, Harry, Sirius and Remus did nothing to bring such suffering on themselves, or to warrant such suffering. Snape brought the majority of his suffering on himself and on others with his own bad choices and rotten attitudes. I know I've said it before, but that more than anything is what I can't stand about Snape. He deliberately attacks people who have already been hurt by his mistakes.

And the fact that these Snapefen can't see that Harry suffered horribly is incredibly creepy.

I think that subconsciously, they keep coming back to the fact that Snape is part of the reason Harry suffered horribly - therefore the suffering can't be too horrible, really, he doesn't behave like an abuse victim after all - and if it was horrible, then he totes deserved it and it's all Dumbledore's fault anyway. Anything to move the responsibility away from Snape.
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[info]dontgiveahoot
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Time:2012-04-28 04:02 am (UTC)
A quote from one of the posts bashing JKR/Harry: "I've found that a certain kind of child/person will happilly turn into that which they apparantly hated as a child." And no irony! That never gets old.

It's marionros. Were you expecting any actual self-awareness?

unlike a son who knows his mum will ignore or excuse his bad behavior, Harry has no bad behavior... beyond that which JKR creates for him.

Exactly. JKR deliberately writes Harry as being occasionally impulsive and reckless, or stubborn and cheeky, and sometimes outright selfish and cruel, because she wants the reader to see it as wrong. She's trying to show us all that good people are very capable of being selfish or cruel sometimes, even (and sometimes especially) when they've been victimised, and that even though it certainly isn't appluadable, it's normal and human.
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[info]dontgiveahoot
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Time:2012-04-28 04:10 am (UTC)
Whoops, posted a tad too soon.
*even (and sometimes especially) when they've been victimised, and that even though it certainly isn't appluadable, it's normal and human to do so sometimes. It's when it becomes an established attitude and pattern of behaviour that there is a problem (Snape).
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[info]quantumreality
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Time:2012-04-26 03:08 am (UTC)
In fact, IIRC JKR made a public service announcement to please not keep owls as pets because they're not easily domesticated and they need room to fly.
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