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Subject:	Deathtocapslock don't like us much. In other news, they don't like Harry Potter either.
Time:	01:53 am

ONTD publishes a list of "Ten Of The Most Epidemically Overrated Books". Harry Potter is not on that list.

Deathtocapslock does not approve of this omission. For 120 comments.

One thread includes us and our parent comm HMS STFU, with some particular attention brought to sarahfrost's post here.

Oneandthetruth: The rabid canon whores of the HP fandom do seem to be less intelligent than the questioners. For example, I needed a dose of rank stupidity a few months ago, so I looked at dedfromsnake. One of the members had ripped into the post I made about the AU scenario of Tom Riddle being a spiritually-developed social reformer. This um, person--I'm trying really hard not to call names here--insisted that I had called JKR both an American and a Tea Partier. Not just once, but multiple times!

I checked the post in question. Sarahfrost referred to the Tea Party twice, once in her title and once in her introductory paragraph. Both times her usage was as a sarcastic introduction to the post proper, based on past deathtocapslock attitudes/behaviour/claims regarding JKR. The only time the Tea Party was mentioned in all seriousness was an excerpt from oneandthetruth's own quotes. Whoops.

oneandthetruth: They all eagerly jumped on the bandwagon, trying to outdo each other in talking about how stupid, mean, and crazy I am. Anyone who lacks (1) such basic reading comprehension skills and (2) the ability to think independently is clearly of inferior intellect. That's not a personal attack; it's a statement of fact.

Not even going to comment on the reading comprehension skills (their total lack of self-awareness never fails to surprise me), but anyone who talks about how an obviously mentally disturbed young woman deserved to be raped doesn't get to complain when other people talk about how 'stupid, mean and crazy' they are. And THAT is a statement of fact.

oryx_leucoryx: So does this mean Severus fans are the greatest threat to Rowlingbots?

No, it means ism-riddled entitled anti-fans who think they're the absolute authority on a book series that they are outright proud of not having read for years are the greatest threat to fans who actually like to read the books.

oneandthetruth: They're really a pathetic bunch, not worthy of contempt, just sad head-shaking--kind of like Tush Limbo calling women who use birth-control pills sluts.

As opposed, say, to a bunch of people who believe a successful author of a beloved book series to be an actual narcissist based on the fact that she didn't write the books the way they wanted her to? Or a bunch of people that jump through countless hoops to excuse a fictional bunch of Fantastic Racists in all sorts of racist, misogynist, victim-blamey ways? Or someone who says that a mentally disturbed rape victim (admittedly an Asshole Victim) deserved it? Note that when it's a fictional Asshole Victim of an incident that can't be proven to be rape or even sexual in any way, deathtocapslock just can't be indignant enough on poor dear Umbridge's behalf.

harpsi_fizz: (Note: I'm sorry, but you people go into shires like Portkey, specific places where fans go to be left alone and enjoy themselves, and you raid their forums to mock them? You are bad. It's one thing if it's a public pan-fandom forum, but when you go to a place like Portkey, you're legit looking for things that will make you angry. That is inexcusably bullying and I defy you to state one reason why it's ok to do that. You can't. You're wrong. You are bullying and you know it and you know in your hearts that you were 100% in the wrong.)

Okay, harpsi_fizz, I'll give you a reason: BECAUSE CALLING OUT ISMS AND OTHER OFFENSIVE BULLSHIT IS ALWAYS, ALWAYS VALID. That's why. Because there is no such thing, and should never be any such thing, as a safe space for offensive bullshit. Any opinion can be mocked, but offensive and hurtful opinions SHOULD be.

I never cease to be annoyed by how the very same people who wank about Arthur Weasley being a hypocrite for bringing a car home to enchant when he works in Misuse Of Muggle Artifacts are the same people who seem to honestly believe that forums designed for a specific sub-section of fandom (like the one they're on, total coincidence there) should be some sort of safe space for fans to say literally whatever the hell hateful, problematic thing they want and be left in peace to do so without the danger of being called out. HMS_STFU got set up in the first place partly because we knew from past experience with the fandom that not only would there be wank, but that much of it would be ismy and offensive and should be called out. And surprise surfuckingprise, it was.

Sorry that our existence forces you to deal with the idea that a 'safe space' where you can say whatever you want and not get called on it might not be something you're entitled to, but... eh, who am I kidding. No I'm not.

harpsi_fizz also doesn't like Tumblr: I beg you, please, please, please stay on text-based forums with clear comment-and-reply systems when it comes to the Harry Potter fandom. I have traveled to other areas of the internet and seen the versions of fandom there, and though the lands are rich with pretty pictures ready for mining, the inhabitants there are savages, ignorant in the ways of communication, self-indulgent, and have mastered the art of ignorance alchemy so that they can form their stupidity into poison darts and shoot it at unsuspecting people. It causes a severe, instantaneous inflamatory itch in the rage sections of the victim's brain and it can last for weeks. Worst of all, there's no chance of getting the antedote because it's all Guerrilla warfare in the most literal Wikipedia definition of the term.

And the imperialistic lingo comes out, with the savages of tumblr contrasted to civilised, educated comms like, say... DTCL. Jesus God, do I get sick of their constant focus on academic achievement, and constantly boasting of said achievement, being the sole marker of a worthy person. Complaining that tumblr is full of pretty pictures and short comments that are high on squee is like complaining that your phone gives everyone access to you, even people you don't want it to. That's kind of what it was made for. For all the stupidity I've complained about on tumblr myself, I've seen quite a few genuinely clever, insightful and thoughtful discussions of fandom and real-life issues on there as well.

June 12th, 2012

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