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melannen ([info]melannen) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2010-06-02 21:21:00


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Ducks! And copyright!
I am modding some panels at a con in a few weeks, and I am a lazy and procrastinating person, so I have decided to turn to the internets at large for help. (This is called "crowdsourcing" if it's legitimate and not just being bone-idle.)

The two panels I need help with are "Fandom, Copyright and Copyleft" and "March of the Sinister Ducks". One of them is totally srs bsness. The other one is the exact opposite.

Fandom, Copyright, and Copyleft: I am planning to make up a web post/handout which covers a) the basics of copyright & intellectual property in general, b) copyright issues as they apply to fanworks and fandom, c) current issues in copyright and fandom, d) intellectual property resources online and activism opportunities, which will be checked by some lawyer-types (any lawyer types want to volunteer as a second check?) and then be put online as a fannish resource.

I have some (badly organized) bookmarks, some idea where to look for more, some printed handouts from other cons, and a vast collection of uncited info in my head. I would be really, really grateful if other people who are interested in this sort of stuff helped me out with links to resources, to important fannish discussions, and to recent events, especially: both the obvious stuff (so I don't miss it) and things I might not know about.

(especially if they know of other fan communities where I could post this request!)


Sinister Ducks : this panel was submitted as a total joke! And now I have to actually make up a presentation for it! *gulp*

So, basically, the idea is that Con.txt's theme and mascot is ducks. And I have to put together a convincing (well, Discordian-style convincing) argument for how ducks are secretly plotting to take over slash fandom (hence their infiltration of Con.txt), and possibly, thereby, the WORLD. Multimedia especially needed!

Here's what I've got so far:
March of the Sinister Ducks (by Alan Moore, who clearly has access to knowledge we wot not.)
Be Kind To Your Web-Footed Friends (because they have infiltrated the US government)
HIGNFY footage about parliamentary duck houses (because they have also infiltrated the British government)
Good Omens and St. James's Park (because the conspiracy dates back to Creation)
Peter, Harriet, and the Massive Continuity of Ducks (no, seriously, it's old and eldritch)
The fact that ducks exist on every planet in the Star Wars universe, despite there being no other Earth animals around (I told you! Ancient and widespread!)
Ernie and Bert (especially the orgy scene, 'cause that's just creepy.)
That bit from dueSouth where Ray and Fraser are surrounded by rubber ducks (I need to figure out which episode this is...)
The Twelfth Doctor being deeply skeptical of duck ponds in his first episode (also, his tendency - along with Ten - to shout "Duck!" at people, and really, Ms. Pond is just sinister in general.)
Stephen Colbert and "Vaxaflac" (by Prescott Pharmaceuticals)
Psyduck.
Jensen Ackles (who we all know is secretly one of Them) and David McCallum, who was there for the start of modern slash fandom, and has now, by way of NCIS, turned traitor and chosen to help the other side.

I know there's more than this, I just haven't kept proper track of where they are. I can take a side turn here - either by way of Red Green's giant Duct Tape Duck, and then on to duct tape in general (hello mythbusters!) - or by way of comics, everything from Darkwing Duck to Talespin - or veer off into swans (the Swan Boat Of Doom on Top Gear! Anything involving J.Weir! Hot Fuzz! The Pirate King!) Also there is a Creepy Duck Puppet that will be watching you. But it would be much more convincing if I had more video footage from classic slash fandoms.

So! Internets at large! I call to you for help! Where are the scenes in your fandom of choice (of any sort of fandom) in which ducks appear? It doesn't have to be pivotal, it doesn't have to be sinister, it doesn't have to be slashy (though any of those would be great, of course) they just have to be there. Were there ducks on the Starfleet Academy grounds, or in the holodeck? Have any of House's patients ever been infected by a duck? Is there a video game with ducks in that I should know about? Has Merlin ever turned into a duck? Are there "atmosphere" scenes with Vs of ducks traveling overhead that you wouldn't even notice unless you were visually oriented and watching very closely? Is there a sound effect that is eerily ducklike? Does someone use "ducky" as a pet name in a creepy way?

...help.


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Re: Copyright links, part 2
[info]zellieh
2010-06-03 11:08 pm UTC (link)
http://community.livejournal.com/slash_pov/1611.html?view=13899#t13899
http://thefourthvine.dreamwidth.org/122385.html?thread=6422545#cmt6422545
http://thefourthvine.dreamwidth.org/121909.html
http://tigerbeatdown.com/2010/05/31/what-we-read-when-we-dont-read-the-internet-presents-au-revoir-pretty-horses-or-why-i-dont-read-man-books-any-more/
http://www.cardozoaelj.net/issues/08/Trombley.pdf
http://r-edge.nfshost.com/writing/academic/TropologisingMyth.pdf
http://works.bepress.com/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1004&context=rebecca_tushnet
http://dearauthor.com/wordpress/2006/12/18/wherein-jane-offends-authors-against-fan-fiction/
http://gizmodo.com/5539417/why-i-steal-movies-even-ones-im-in

One of these Youtube links is the TW/ST Banned from Argo vid, which is the only vid I know set to a filk; the rest are academic musings and such on the state of media and the internet:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMcfrLYDm2U&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljbI-363A2Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Q25-S7jzgs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLlGopyXT_g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu4mFV3TxTo

Yeesh. Sorry about the ugly links; I can't work out how to get pretty bookmarks with nice labels out of my browser. Not all of these are directly copyright-related, but they all deal with it tangentially and I wasn't sure what exactly you're looking for. I hope this helps, and doesn't, you know, swamp you with too much irrelevant stuff.

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Re: Copyright links, part 2
[info]melannen
2010-06-04 02:45 am UTC (link)
Oh, thank you thank you so much! I don't have time to go through all these tonight, but so helpful! You have basically given me the list I was dreading trying to reconstruct. :D

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Re: Copyright links, part 2
[info]zellieh
2010-06-06 02:27 am UTC (link)
You're welcome! There's also the LJ comm, veni_vidi_vids, for meta about the vidding aspects to copyright, and the copyright, fair_use, otw, and fanlib tags on metafandom's delicious (http://delicious.com/metafandom).

In case you can't tell already, I find the various debates around fandom and copyright law fascinating. I'm looking forward to seeing the resources web post/handout when it gets done. Good luck with the panel! :D

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