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Perhaps I Am Surrounded By Fierce Weasels ([info]alpheratz) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2010-06-24 14:44:00
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Smarm
I recall reading a very funny mocking essay about smarm in the Sentinel fandom quite a few years ago. Now I want to send it to a friend of mine, but I haven't been able to find it. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

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[info]wolfshark
2010-06-24 07:39 pm UTC (link)
Was it the Zombie finger of Rob Lowe? It's here

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[info]wolfshark
2010-06-24 07:39 pm UTC (link)
D'oh - I missed the part about smarm. Clearly it's not the one I was thinking of!

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[info]alpheratz
2010-06-24 07:54 pm UTC (link)
Heh. No, that's not it, but I recall loling at that one before.

The essay I'm thinking of wasn't about any one specific fic - it was a detailed description of the smarm phenomenon and how extreme it got, with examples from several fics. The only thing I remember about it is sadly ungoogleable - it's that the essay had a yellow background and some graphics... I think.

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[info]esorlehcar
2010-06-24 08:33 pm UTC (link)
[info]cereta's The Death of Smarm, perhaps?

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[info]phosfate
2010-06-24 09:00 pm UTC (link)
OH DEAR JESUS!

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[info]esorlehcar
2010-06-24 09:03 pm UTC (link)
I actually read that story when it was being posted (though, like Lucy, I gave up at some point, for all the same reasons), and I loved a few other stories by the same author. But calling her work "smarm" was pushing the envelope before Beach, and Beach was just... dear god. NAKED MAKING OUT IN THE SHOWER IS NOT A PLATONIC ACTIVITY.

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[info]phosfate
2010-06-24 09:05 pm UTC (link)
I...think I know one of the authors from the eighties, and...her definition of 'smarm' has expanded considerably. :D

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[info]b_jellybean
2010-06-25 01:35 pm UTC (link)
I remember being 15, and smarm being all I'd ever wanted from fanfic, and reading "Beach" and saying "Wow. Just......wow. This is a bit much."

I did like her picture gallery, though.

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[info]alpheratz
2010-06-25 01:47 am UTC (link)
YESSS. OK, so it was a pink background, not yellow.

Thank you. That just broke my brain again, in a very delicious way.

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[info]esorlehcar
2010-06-25 02:29 am UTC (link)
I actually think the old Symposium background may have been yellow--it definitely looks different than it did when it was still active.

And heeee. I'd completely forgotten about Beach and the whole insane smarm phenemenon in Sentinel fandom, so thank you for the reminder. Sometimes it's nice to remember that fandom has ALWAYS been batshit in one way or another.

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[info]miraba
2010-06-25 03:58 am UTC (link)
That opening fic is horrid; I'm not sure I could take "Beach" without a drinking game.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-06-27 04:38 pm UTC (link)
I read a little of it once and it was pretty amazing. Not good. Just...amazing.

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[info]sarracenia
2010-06-24 09:33 pm UTC (link)
My favorite part of the Sentinel smarm thing was when they started including some kind of soulbonding thing so that their entirely platonic naked caressing sessions could end with an entirely platonic climax.

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[info]spacelogic
2010-06-24 09:43 pm UTC (link)
...I read a Star Trek fic like that once. And by "fic" I mean "official tie-in novel", and by "like that" I mean "including gratuitous nudity and soulbonding in an officially platonic relationship". I'm not sure what this says, but I don't think it's good.

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[info]jat_sapphire
2010-06-25 02:17 am UTC (link)
Price of the Phoenix?

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[info]spacelogic
2010-06-25 02:24 am UTC (link)
Yep, that's the one.

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[info]anthologia
2010-06-25 06:48 pm UTC (link)
Oh dear gods that one.

The antagonist actually suggested to Spock that he kiss Jim to wake him up, fairy tale style.

I'm not sure how platonic I'd call that.

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[info]youngcurmudgeon
2010-06-27 09:23 pm UTC (link)
Wait, is that the one that was written by a person who wrote slash? Because that happened, and TPTB didn't realized that they'd published canon slash until after the book came out. The second printing took out most of the slashiness, but not all.

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[info]ms_treesap
2010-06-27 10:17 pm UTC (link)
I think that was "Killing Game"?

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[info]youngcurmudgeon
2010-06-28 02:25 am UTC (link)
... based on these reviews, I'm going to say yes.

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[info]alpheratz
2010-06-25 01:49 am UTC (link)
Oh no.

...on the other hand, the risk of getting STDs is pretty low that way, so I guess that's something.

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[info]kookaburra
2010-06-25 02:09 am UTC (link)
but you could get the SOUL HERPES.

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[info]alpheratz
2010-06-25 02:12 am UTC (link)
It's a little cold sore in your soul.

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[info]phosfate
2010-06-25 01:42 pm UTC (link)
Not to put to fine a point on it
I'll be the spyrochete in your noggin
Make a little cold sore in your soul

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[info]darkecology
2010-06-25 09:41 pm UTC (link)
Win!

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[info]sarracenia
2010-06-25 03:33 am UTC (link)
Actually, if astral marriages are the same thing as soulbonding platonic sex, soul herpes could explain a lot about Snape.

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[info]brown_betty
2010-06-30 02:11 am UTC (link)
Unless you think a soulbond basically is an STD that never goes away.

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[info]miraba
2010-06-25 03:57 am UTC (link)
DDDDDDD:
Has anyone sporked it?

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[info]sarracenia
2010-06-25 04:53 am UTC (link)
It doesn't look like it, but I did find the series! A random example of Jim and Blair's platonic love:

The sentinel snarled then nuzzled at his guide's throat, where the scent was the strongest. The linkage scent was thick and heavy around his guide. Blaer was in the heat of the bond, his needs made clear by the sub-vocal sounds he was making. The Dark Guide wanted to bond. The sentinel dropped to his knees, holding his most precious bundle in his arms, then lowered the guide onto his back, crying out in pain as Blaer fixed onto his throat, his teeth nipping the skin, the rest of the clan now forgotten.

But they're platonic needy sub-vocal sounds!

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[info]cheezit
2010-06-24 10:51 pm UTC (link)
Oh Sentinel, you were my first taste of online fandom.

I ended up in this ML hosted by some woman that was a huge Voyager fan. Slash was forbidden on the ML after someone posted a story and people went apeshit. (hilarious, considering)

Then there were some chats that were orchestrated on AOL back when you had to have AOL to participate with some studio people, and when that was bought to light naturally light wank ensued.

Still I met some of the nicest fans from there and aways wondered whatever happened to them. /hazy watercolor meeeemories

(Also, iconpregnantelfBlair still haunts my brains)

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[info]b_jellybean
2010-06-25 01:37 pm UTC (link)
Was it....oh MAN, I can't remember the name of the list I was on, but I remember one woman crossposting to a bunch of lists about a fic challenge she was running, with a list of prompts, and the list I was on FLIPPED THE FUCK OUT because some of the prompts were for slash.

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[info]phosfate
2010-06-25 01:44 pm UTC (link)
I'm kind of shocked to find out that there was non-slash Sentinel.

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[info]frequentmouse
2010-06-25 04:08 pm UTC (link)
It is rather like nonfat half-and-half, it is.

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[info]mmanurere
2010-06-25 07:56 pm UTC (link)
Well, this is Sentinel. The first time I saw an episode (before I was into slash, even), I couldn't pay attention to the plot because I was so distracted trying to figure out whether they were actually supposed to be a couple. (I think this was the episode where they'd just moved in together...so yeah.)

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[info]rosalita
2010-06-27 01:12 pm UTC (link)
I have always said that gen in Sentinel would be considered slash in any other fandom.

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[info]lady_ganesh
2010-06-27 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Most of it read like denial!fic.

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2010-06-25 01:26 am UTC (link)
I'm just squeeing at your Ryan/Colin icon...

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[info]alpheratz
2010-06-25 01:50 am UTC (link)
They ship themselves!

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2010-06-25 02:04 am UTC (link)
They certainly do hand out the goodies on a big silver platter. Bless them.

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