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darksumomo ([info]darksumomo) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2012-05-30 01:54:00
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Current location:Detroit where the weak are killed and eaten
Current mood:*thud*
Current music:dogs snoring

Fandom Secrets is moving to Dreamwidth
Announcement post at LJ

Fandom Secrets on Dreamwidth

Daily Dot article on the move: Is LiveJournal modernizing too quickly? (Link fixed!)


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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-05-30 07:10 am UTC (link)
Will the last one out please set the goat free to forage.

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-05-30 07:19 am UTC (link)
Oh god no. It will roam into a nuclear plant and grow to gigantoid size and eat Tokyo.

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[info]anarchicq
2012-05-30 09:40 pm UTC (link)
All the while it will stare blankly at you with it's soulless, non-goat eyes.

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[info]darksumomo
2012-06-01 03:08 am UTC (link)
Now you have me thinking of Frank as a chimera from FullMetal Alchemist (hence the icon) or a muttation from The Hunter Games.

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[info]sqbr
2012-05-30 09:43 am UTC (link)
I remember when dreamwidth got started a lot of people made the compelling argument that most fans were too comfortable on lj to move. I like dreamwidth, but decided this was probably true, and came to terms with most of my fannish communities staying on lj.

And then lj started making itself actively uncomfortable for fandom to the extent that moving to dw was less effort than working around their changes!

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-05-30 03:27 pm UTC (link)
apparently the frog will notice it's being boiled, if you're obnoxious enough about it!

(the advent of facebook, twitter, tumblr et al also helped reduce the general moment of inertia for ordinary bloggers/social networkers.)

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-05-30 03:53 pm UTC (link)
I had to explain that little metaphor to Ann once (specifying the whole time that it doesn't actually work like that, a frog'll notice really fast) and she was silent and then said, in horror: "WHO EVEN THINKS OF THAT SHIT"

Ahh, good times. Good times.

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[info]cygnia
2012-05-30 03:36 pm UTC (link)
I think the html is borked on that last link.

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[info]darksumomo
2012-06-01 03:13 am UTC (link)
Fixed.

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[info]pantyless_angel
2012-05-30 04:07 pm UTC (link)
The last link isn't working for me.

At least I'll have more of a reason to use DW now, besides fic backups, and my one and only fellow, current fandom obsessie fandom friend.

The anti-DW anon/anons at the LJ announcement are kind of amusing, especially the "It's so sad people can't just except changes" anon.



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[info]anarchicq
2012-05-30 05:24 pm UTC (link)
Seriously.
It's not change, it's that I literally cannot post comments/replies/posts OR select an icon unless I have ?style=mine working and if I understand correctly the s2 layouts are soon to be borked as well, right?

Thankfully the RP I RP in moved last week.

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[info]pantyless_angel
2012-05-30 06:17 pm UTC (link)
This, fortunately it's not too bad for me yet, but there are way too many people experiencing the problems you are, and LJ just ignores all the people with legitimate complaints about what is happening.

There are still workarounds, but it's really, really shitty that they have become necessary just for some people to be able to use LJ at all. On top of that the way it's looking, how long will it be before those don't work anymore, and people are just stuck with a site they can't get to function in any way? I think everything is going to be borked eventually.

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[info]anarchicq
2012-05-30 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Apparently it was because of Greasemonkey script but I couldn't comment in Chrome either so I dunno.

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-05-30 08:44 pm UTC (link)
Not enjoying migraines = not being able to accept change! Needing subject lines = being a big whiner! Not enjoying waiting twenty seconds for comments to expand = you're against modernization!

If they replaced the little chocolate fish in Phish Food with mouse turds, I wouldn't like that either.

I don't get the people who are all "but there are SJWs over there waaah!" There are plenty of jackasses on LJ too -- what does it matter? You don't have to play with every single person who has an account there. And people who have had run-ins with the people who own DW, okay, that sucks, but when LJ is run by the likes of igrick and has staff who have been known to harass users, I don't see how LJ wins that contest.

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[info]eleutheria
2012-05-31 10:47 pm UTC (link)
Honestly for me personally igrick vs. synecdochic is a wash. One is awful, the other triggered the fuck out of me with the way she acted on that Clan Mitchell thing.

I use Dreamwidth, but I don't give it money.

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[info]phosfate
2012-06-04 12:11 am UTC (link)
A plague on both their houses.

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[info]tinmiss
2012-06-01 12:25 am UTC (link)
I need acronym help on SJW, please?

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[info]darksumomo
2012-06-01 03:04 am UTC (link)
Social Justice Warrior.

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[info]tinmiss
2012-06-01 07:07 am UTC (link)
Thanks so much! Somehow I'd never come across that one before.

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[info]darksumomo
2012-05-31 01:26 am UTC (link)
Fixed the last link. Sorry, but I forgot the http://. That didn't seem to screw up Firefox, but I can see how it would not play nice with other browsers.

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[info]kylenne
2012-05-30 04:56 pm UTC (link)
Link on the article is borked, but it was worth reading just for the giggles I got watching them have to explain what kink memes are.

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[info]zing_och
2012-05-30 06:49 pm UTC (link)
Heh, yes. [often risque portrayals of fan-conceived character relationships] made me laugh, too. Very... diplomatic.

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[info]darksumomo
2012-05-31 01:27 am UTC (link)
Link's fixed now. Thanks for pointing it out.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-05-30 09:20 pm UTC (link)
The RP I was in for years that I had to leave in April was actually FEATURED on the LJ front page at one point. We were huge with tons of paid accounts and everything was wonderful. Then LJ got rid of subject lines and the new comments broke EVERYTHING in the comm. At one point I couldn't make any comments at all and it killed the thread I was doing.

So we had a poll and moved to DW. THIS IS A BAD THING LJ. There was a bunch of people that were only going to LJ/spending money for accounts because of the game. And you pushed them to DW. Genius plan there.

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[info]khym_chanur
2012-05-30 10:13 pm UTC (link)
I remember some people speculating that LJ is planning on making most of its profits from advertising (or is already doing so), so they don't care about paid accounts.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-05-31 04:04 am UTC (link)
But if people are leaving it than it's a bit of a moot point, really. They won't be getting money either way.

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[info]khym_chanur
2012-05-31 04:36 am UTC (link)
I think the supposed rational (if the speculations were corrected) was something like "for every 1 paying customer we lose we'll get X non-paying customers that will make up for it advertising revenues".

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[info]platedlizard
2012-05-31 08:39 pm UTC (link)
That and apparently these new changes work better with how the Russian userbase uses LiveJournal. How, I'm not quite sure. I guess they use it more like Facebook?

Either way, it sucks and I've just about left it.

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[info]ekaterinv
2012-05-31 10:01 pm UTC (link)
The only Russians I've seen commenting on any of the changes since 88 have been pissed off about it. Way more pissed off than anyone else. Lots and lots of swearing.

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[info]tez
2012-05-31 04:00 am UTC (link)
Inquiring Minds have to know -- which game?

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[info]ninwhore
2012-05-31 04:12 am UTC (link)
Paradisa! It was amazing though I always have to check when I spell 'paradise' now. I really miss it because not only was it fun but all of the people there are wonderful.

I think DramaDramaDuck moved around the same time too? They were even bigger than us but I never joined so I have no idea. I just remember when we were holding our poll about moving a ton of other games were doing the same because the new comments destroyed layouts and made commenting impossible.

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[info]tez
2012-05-31 06:13 am UTC (link)
Huh. Never had any contact with Paradisa. I played in Adstringendum for a while (like...three and a half years ago) and I know they made the move. I'm wondering how long it'll take before games aren't even started on LJ anymore.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-05-31 06:50 am UTC (link)
I'm not sure how many are still started over on LJ BUT DW does have a bunch of DW started RPs last I checked so there's that.

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[info]khym_chanur
2012-05-30 10:10 pm UTC (link)
Why in the world did LJ get rid of comment subject lines? I can understand getting rid of a feature if users were somehow abusing it, or if it was hopelessly buggy, but i'm pretty sure neither of those applied to the LJ situation.

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[info]cmdr_zoom
2012-05-30 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Because Facebook.

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[info]pantyless_angel
2012-05-30 11:21 pm UTC (link)
Apparently the guy who is redesigning the comment pages just thought it was ugly, and pretty much said fuck you to anyone who disagreed with him.

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[info]sandglass
2012-05-31 01:45 am UTC (link)
Yeah, he didn't like that the subject line would go to "..." when collapsed after so many comments. So, yeah.

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[info]khym_chanur
2012-05-31 04:42 am UTC (link)
Wait, LJ got rid of comment previews???

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[info]cie_anthy
2012-05-31 05:32 am UTC (link)
*grits teeth* Yes. Yes, they did. You can edit your comments even with a free account, now - but not if you're anon, of course, or if someone replies to you. And when I just want to freakin' see if I did my html right, I don't want to post the fucking thing, then go back and edit it, sending two emails to the people getting notifications!

(Sorry, I'm still really upset about this. >.< )

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[info]khym_chanur
2012-05-31 05:51 am UTC (link)
Are the LJ developers trying to be stupid? I mean, I can think of little other reason for getting rid of comment preview.

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[info]bobafeis
2012-05-31 12:24 pm UTC (link)
Seriously? Is there another platform out there that doesn't allow previews for its posts? This one is even more mind-boggling than getting rid of subject lines. Preview is a basic part of interweb life! I mean I get so incredibly pissy and paranoid at Facebook for not letting me previ-

Oh, I guess there is another platform that doesn't allow previews. Somehow, I don't think that's what made Facebook what it is today, though.

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