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J. Crew Guy ([info]j_crew_guy) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2012-06-01 08:15:00


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Entry tags:my mom tossed all my comics ;-;, no one cares but sep, not the gay superhero we wanted, what a revolting development

Green Lantern Alan Scott is DC Comics' newest gay character
Earlier this month, DC co-publisher Dan DiDio revealed to a convention audience in England a heretofore heterosexual DC superhero would be coming out of the closet. DiDio kept mum about the hero’s identity, although he did note that it would be “one of the major iconic DC characters.” Today, DC has confirmed Internet rumors that the character in question is Alan Scott, a.k.a. the original Green Lantern, currently appearing as a lead character in DC’s Earth 2.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Did you always know that you wanted a gay character at the forefront of the Earth 2 series?
JAMES ROBINSON: The original version of Alan Scott was an older man, and he had a superpowered son, Obsidian, who was gay. The fact that Scott was young now [thanks to a universe-wide reboot] meant Obsidian no longer existed. I thought it was a shame that DC was losing such a positive gay character. I said, “Why not make Alan Scott gay?” To Dan DiDio’s credit, when I suggested it to him, there wasn’t a moment’s hesitation.

Can you talk about the new Alan Scott?
He’s a giant of the media industry. By getting involved in communication, the news, and the Internet, he’s become a billionaire. He’s kind of a cross between Mark Zuckerberg and David Geffen. The original Alan Scott owned a radio station in the ’40s and ’50s, so he was a media giant then. He was this bold, heroic, brave man who took control, who would risk his life for you and be this emerald knight that was always there to protect the world. The Alan Scott I’m doing now is that same dynamic, brave, honorable man. A man that you’d want guarding your welfare, your children, your life, your home. He’s willing to give his life for the world. He’s everything you want in a hero. And he happens to be gay. So really, apart from his sexuality, there isn’t that much of a difference.


Edit: In an interview with The Advocate, Robinson says that Alan Scott "won’t be the only gay character in Earth 2, I promise you that.". When asked about Scott's love life, he responded, "...for the first few issues I’m concentrating on him as a hero and putting together his origin. But when we do get to his private life, obviously, yes, there will be romance between him and another lucky man."

(From EW.com)
Earlier this month, DC co-publisher Dan DiDio revealed to a convention audience in England a heretofore heterosexual DC superhero would be coming out of the closet. DiDio kept mum about the hero’s identity, although he did note that it would be “one of the major iconic DC characters.” Today, DC has confirmed Internet rumors that the character in question is Alan Scott, a.k.a. the original Green Lantern, currently appearing as a lead character in DC’s Earth 2. EW spoke to Earth 2 writer James Robinson (Starman, The Golden Age) about the rebooted version of one of DC’s original heroes.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Did you always know that you wanted a gay character at the forefront of the Earth 2 series?
JAMES ROBINSON: The original version of Alan Scott was an older man, and he had a superpowered son, Obsidian, who was gay. The fact that Scott was young now [thanks to a universe-wide reboot] meant Obsidian no longer existed. I thought it was a shame that DC was losing such a positive gay character. I said, “Why not make Alan Scott gay?” To Dan DiDio’s credit, when I suggested it to him, there wasn’t a moment’s hesitation.

Can you talk about the new Alan Scott?
He’s a giant of the media industry. By getting involved in communication, the news, and the Internet, he’s become a billionaire. He’s kind of a cross between Mark Zuckerberg and David Geffen. The original Alan Scott owned a radio station in the ’40s and ’50s, so he was a media giant then. He was this bold, heroic, brave man who took control, who would risk his life for you and be this emerald knight that was always there to protect the world. The Alan Scott I’m doing now is that same dynamic, brave, honorable man. A man that you’d want guarding your welfare, your children, your life, your home. He’s willing to give his life for the world. He’s everything you want in a hero. And he happens to be gay. So really, apart from his sexuality, there isn’t that much of a difference.

Last week, when news about Earth 2‘s Alan Scott being homosexual hit the Internet, I saw a few complaints which mostly came back to one fact: That we’re talking about a character in an alternate universe who’s a rebooted version of a character that has been outside of the mainstream comic book world for awhile now. How do you respond to charges that this story is opportunistic?
That was never the intention. When I was first putting together this version of the team eight months ago, and was making the team diverse and interesting, adding in a gay character seemed like the natural thing to do. Quite honestly, it was an offhand comment that Dan made at a panel in England that got everybody suddenly aware and excited. I’m as surprised by it as you are. This was not ever meant to be sensational. It’s meant to be about a team that’s well-rounded, that shows the diversity of the world around us.

What can we expect coming up in the comic book?
One of the good things about the book being called Earth 2 — as opposed to The Justice Society — is that I’m really setting up the world and the characters. Yes, they will be the Justice Society. But this first arc is going to introduce a few of them. Then I have a couple of single issues. Then we have the second arc. By the end of that arc, we’ll get the whole team. I can have the characters come in organically and gradually. You’re going to see this whole team come together. They’re going to meet their first villain.

Who is it?
I don’t know if I should say! The only clue I’ll drop is that he’s a classic Justice Society villain, but he’s also a classic Alan Scott/Green Lantern villain.

Starman featured what has been referred to one of the first gay-male kisses in mainstream comics. Since that time, has it become easier to introduce a homosexual character into a superhero comic book?
I think so. It’s very gratifying to see the interest in this character and what we’re doing. But I at least hope society is moving forward sanely and rationally, where people’s diversity is accepted, not feared.

I want to stress that Alan Scott is a gay man, but that’s just a part of who he is. He’s a businessman. He’s a hero. He’s a lot of different things. His sexuality is a part of him, but it isn’t his defining trait. He’s an interesting, complex character that I think people will respond to on many levels. He’s the epitome of heroism. And I hope that he’s a positive representation of a gay man.

(From The Advocate)
ong before Hal Jordan became the most popular emerald ring-slinger in the DC universe, there was another man who wielded Green Lantern’s light. Debuting in All-American Comics #16 (July 1940), the original Green Lantern was a simple railroad engineer named Alan Scott who gained superpowers after fashioning a ring from a magic lantern he’d found. He quickly became one of the most popular superheroes of the day and was a founding member of the first super team, the Justice Society of America. Since then, there have been many versions of Green Lantern – and Alan Scott – flying though the skies of the DC universe, but it’s the comic book company’s most recent incarnation of the original Emerald Knight that has fans talking. Not only will Alan Scott take up the mantle of Green Lantern and become the leader of the Justice Society once more in the new comic book series Earth 2, he’ll also be one of DC Comics’ most prominent gay superheroes. Earth 2 writer James Robinson speaks with The Advocate about his plans for the new series and why DC Comics decided to bring one of their most iconic superheroes out of the closet.

The Advocate: What inspired you to bring the original Green Lantern, Alan Scott, out of the closet?
James Robinson: It started about eight months ago when I began putting together the Earth 2 team. When the decision was made to reboot the DC universe and make the Justice Society young again, it occurred to me that we would be losing some great characters. In the previous continuity of the DC universe, Alan Scott was an older hero who’d been around a long time and he had a gay son, a superhero named Obsidian. Since we were making Alan young again, I thought it was a shame to lose that gay character. When I began writing Earth 2, I wanted the book to be as diverse as possible, and so I thought, Why don’t we make Alan Scott gay? Why don’t we make the leader of the Justice Society a gay man? I suggested this to DC’s copublisher Dan Didio, and to his credit there was never a moment of hesitation. He said, “That sounds like a great idea.” There wasn’t a lot of soul-searching about it. It really was a simple and logical decision.

So the decision to reintroduce Alan Scott as a gay man was more about organic character development than having a gay character in the Justice Society?
Well, I wanted to place a gay character on the team. I feel if you’re going to have a team, you need to have realistic diversity. After all, I have gay friends and straight friends and we’re all mixed together. It stands to reason, just based on the population of the world, at least one member of the team is going to be gay. So that was part of it. I also really like the idea of a character like Alan Scott, the leader of the team, a brave, gallant guy who is the epitome of everything good in a human being, just happens to be gay. It’s a part of his personality, but it’s not all he is. He’s a lot of other positive things as well. There are a lot of diverse traits to his personality.

Did you consider bringing other characters out of the closet in Earth 2 before you decided on Green Lantern/Alan Scott?
For me, it was because we were losing his gay son, Obsidian, that originally put the idea in my head. I’ve written Alan Scott before and I’ve always portrayed him as this strong, gallant, heroic guy who is admirable and has a hero’s heart. So the minute I thought, Let’s make him gay, it stuck. I never weighed one character against another in terms of who I thought should be gay. I just thought it was a good thing to make the strongest personality, the team leader, a gay man. It just suited the book and it felt good.

Were you nervous about reinterpreting an iconic character like the original Green Lantern in this way?
No, not really. I think we need to move with the times. Back when I was writing Starman, I had, I believe, the first gay kiss in a mainstream comic book. That was back in August of 1998. Then there was another version of the Starman character in the recent Justice League series I had written and he was gay too. So I’ve always tried to bring positive gay characters into the books that I write. Earth 2 is just another example of that. I’m not fearful of it. I think you have to do the right thing and not worry about what the negative minority might say. I think it’s about time a few more big iconic characters were gay.

Does that mean we’ll be seeing additional gay characters introduced in Earth 2?
There is another character down the line, but that character won’t be appearing for some time, so it’s probably a bit too early to talk about that, but this book will definitely have a diverse cast. Alan Scott won’t be the only gay character in Earth 2, I promise you that.

Will we be seeing any developments in Alan Scott’s love life in the near future?
Yes, that’s inevitable, but for the first few issues I’m concentrating on him as a hero and putting together his origin. But when we do get to his private life, obviously, yes, there will be romance between him and another lucky man.

Can you give us a hint about what fans can expect to see next in Earth 2?
The great thing about Earth 2 is that it’s an entire world. Yes, Justice Society is a part of that world, but I’ll be bringing in these characters slowly so we can get to know them more intimately. I’m not in a rush to get the whole team together with the first issue. What you can look forward to is seeing me develop a much bigger tapestry than just the team. I hope that people who check it out to see how I’m handling Alan Scott will stick around and enjoy not only that character but the whole world I’m trying to create.



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[info]seiberwing
2012-06-01 01:22 pm UTC (link)
All the rpg.netters are crying foul over this.

Specifically, over the idea that Alan Scott qualifies as 'major'. I think a few were holding out for Wonder Woman.

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[info]puipui
2012-06-01 03:23 pm UTC (link)
Everyone I know went straight to Batman, but that seemed unlikely, so yeah, Wonder Woman. She strikes me more as bi, though, or more accurately probably pansexual.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-06-01 04:45 pm UTC (link)
Batnan's current writer commented on that, saying it wouldn't be Batman but he'd be fine with it either way and continue on.

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[info]cygnia
2012-06-02 06:50 pm UTC (link)
I was thinking Alfred.

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[info]uldihaa
2012-06-01 03:50 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, when I read “one of the major iconic DC characters”, I think a character that even those not that familiar with DC comics has at least heard of. While 'Green Lantern' is well known, Alan Scott? Not so much, I'm thinking.

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-06-01 04:44 pm UTC (link)
In my heart, I was hoping it was Steel so my little hearts around our names in my notebook would be more plausible.

Of course, I assumed from the start it'd be a c or d-stringer the moment they said 'iconic'.

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[info]hallidae
2012-06-01 05:35 pm UTC (link)
For all a good deal of the writing surrounding him was extremely gross and problematic (let's make the team gay be semi-sexually obsessed with his sister due to cosmic mind control! that's totally not disgusting on a hundred different levels or anything!), I'm not gonna lie, I really don't think this makes up for retconning Obsidian out of existence. DC's treating this as a simple matter of lost one; gained one, so it's a win! No. LGBT characters aren't little green army men; they shouldn't be interchangeable.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-01 08:25 pm UTC (link)
My exact thoughts. And hell, they could have a little baby!Obsidian and Jade (Maybe as twins?) with Alan having been in a previous relationship because of denial. And you know what? That would have been fucking AWESOME. It would be something new. A single gay dad who has joint custody with the kid's mom? Yes plz.

But no. Kids 'age heroes too much' because it's IMPOSSIBLE for young people to have kids!!!!

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[info]sepiamagpie
2012-06-01 10:57 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, I was all 'nooo I like his kids!'

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-01 11:07 pm UTC (link)
BUT KIDS AND MARRIAGE ARE FOR OLD PEOPLE DIDN'T YOU KNOW THAT? EVERYONE MUST BE YOUNG AND HIP. HAPPY FAMILIES ARE FOR LOSERS .

/vomits

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[info]full_metal_ox
2012-06-01 11:15 pm UTC (link)
Yet another reason to love Legend of Korra: kickass middle-aged supporting characters.

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[info]spawn_of_kong
2012-06-05 12:46 am UTC (link)
I just got caught up with Legend of Korra yesterday; my brain is still stuck on "OMGOMGOMG."

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[info]nursewretched
2012-06-03 03:56 pm UTC (link)
Unless you're Animal Man. Then it's okay.

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[info]hallidae
2012-06-02 05:26 am UTC (link)
I would have loved to see the single parent angle at work here, though I don't really have any faith in them to handle it well.

And on the subject... Is it weird that I think this obsession with not letting younger characters have kids is kind of... trying to find the right word... somewhere between insular and classist? Because most of these writers and editors who are obsessed with hip, unbound, free youth seem to live in areas where young people with kids wouldn't be a thing that they'd see a lot. Me, on the other hand, every fucking day I have people in their thirties and forties coming through my line at work talking about how they have the grandkids for the weekend.

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[info]skypirate
2012-06-02 01:28 pm UTC (link)
I really like Obsidian too. I think it's also fair to mention that we're not only losing a lgbt character, we're also losing a young man who grew up working class and has had a really long running mental illness narrative (DEFINITELY not always perfect, but it was there and I liked him for being hero with a mental illness who had things like medication and stuff, when writers weren't ignoring him). Also, before the reboot I was just waiting for him and Damon to get married and finally be able to adopt that baby they really wanted. u_u

Todd's subtextual sexual attraction to his sister was there way before he came out of the closet, though. It was so obvious people would mention it in the letter columns in Infinity Inc. But I def. thought that after Manhunter we could let that go and never mention it again, haha.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-01 08:31 pm UTC (link)
It's a separate universe so they can play it safe.

It's not Tim Drake


The amount of fucks I don't give is astronomical.

Now if they wanted to do gay Green Lantern they should have just let Guy and Kyle make out already. Or Vath and Isamot. Either is fine

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[info]mmanurere
2012-06-02 06:20 am UTC (link)
We knew it wouldn't be Tim Drake -- he's already on a team with gay members. There's a "minimum heterosexual team percentage" quota in effect.

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[info]airawyn
2012-06-03 01:21 am UTC (link)
Plus the only people still reading Lobdell's shit are the dudebros and they'd throw a fit if Tim Drake came out.

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[info]skypirate
2012-06-02 01:37 pm UTC (link)
Just about every/any buddy cop pair in the Green Lantern corps needs to make out, Soranik and Iolande, I'm looking at you.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-03 11:25 pm UTC (link)
Yes this.

Except Bzzd and Mogo. No idea how THAT one would work out.... I miss you Bzzd ):

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[info]ereshkigal
2012-06-02 02:27 pm UTC (link)
Oh my god, back in the day when I was still giving these people my money (way back in the 90s), I got so damned sick of them forcefully shoving that kid into relationships. One, he was a kid. Two, he never seemed to have the time for that or the inclination. He kinda seemed more asexual to me overall, but you know, even being gay would've been more believable for Tim than the shit they kept giving us.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-03 11:32 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, asexual would be perfect for Tim but I wouldn't trust either of the big two with someone who was asexual. But, really, look at how he was Kon when he died. He tried to CLONE HIM. Then when Kon is back Tim cries at him then later gives him a big hug. Let's not even get into his thing for Grayson...

I could see him with a guy a lot more easily than a girl, let's just leave it at that.

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[info]yoritomo_reiko
2012-06-04 09:07 pm UTC (link)
Let's not even get into his thing for Grayson...

How many times did you have to stop yourself from writing Dick?

I mostly ask because I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have managed.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-04 09:32 pm UTC (link)
I TYPE HIS NAME AS GRAYSON ALWAYS because otherwise I would be laughing too hard at anything to hold a conversation about him.

It was harder this time though. HAHA HARDER

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[info]yoritomo_reiko
2012-06-04 09:54 pm UTC (link)
I play Nightwing in an RP game. I...spend a lot of time making Dick jokes. Because it makes other people laugh.

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[info]ninwhore
2012-06-05 12:35 am UTC (link)
Yeah, that's always fun. I used to play Deadpool. The amount of people I got to make fun of was astounding.

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[info]puipui
2012-06-02 05:56 pm UTC (link)
On the plus side, at least they won't be able to go with some cheesy stereotypical rainbow outfit, on account of the yellow.

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[info]bienegold
2012-06-02 07:13 pm UTC (link)
But it's Alan Scott! Unless they've updated his costume, it's already super tacky.

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[info]paladin
2012-06-02 09:47 pm UTC (link)
Actually Alan Scott's powers, while they mimic those of the other Lanterns, come from a completely different source and therefore have different limitations. Colors aren't an issue for him. His only weakness is that he's powerless against wood. The off-color jokes that this weakness and his new status allow make me wonder how much thought DC really put into the question of which waning B-list hero they wanted to reinvent.

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[info]obsidianwolf
2012-06-03 01:27 am UTC (link)
I always disliked that retcon. I wish they'd kept the first post crisis origin for Alan Scott's Lantern. The one where they tied it into main Green Lantern corps and his batteries weakness to wood was from the Guardians humbling an arrogant out of control lantern by making him vulnerable to something as simple as wood.

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[info]wook77
2012-06-03 01:46 am UTC (link)
Good thing they're doing away with the weakness to wood then, yeah?

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[info]paladin
2012-06-03 05:33 am UTC (link)
I didn't know that; I stopped reading most DC comics after their latest headdesk-inducing reboot and it isn't mentioned in the interview. Is his weakness going to be yellow like everyone else now?

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[info]wook77
2012-06-03 04:51 pm UTC (link)
From this article:

Unlike previous versions of Scott dating back to the Forties, wood will not be a weakness for the new Green Lantern. "He is the earthly powerhouse, and when you see him in terms of his power level, he's up there close to Superman."

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[info]paladin
2012-06-03 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Good to know, thank you.

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[info]puipui
2012-06-03 04:16 am UTC (link)
His only weakness is that he's powerless against wood.

Huh. Huh huh huh. Huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh.

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[info]uldihaa
2012-06-03 01:19 pm UTC (link)
[info]paladin said wood.


Eheh. Eheh eheh eheh. Eheh eheh eheh eheh eheh eheh eheh.

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[info]tehrin
2012-06-03 10:25 pm UTC (link)
I'll say!

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[info]tehrin
2012-06-03 10:23 pm UTC (link)
Yeah, they already had Batman's rainbow batsuit wardrobe for that.

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[info]tehrin
2012-06-04 07:11 am UTC (link)
One Million Moms couldn't take the backlash they've received for posting a warning to homophobic parents on Facebook so they took down their Facebook page

Best thing from one of the Pro-Scott commenters: In brightest day, in darkest night, No intolerance shall escape my sight, Let those who worship ignorance's might, Beware my power... Green Lantern's light!</i?

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[info]mister_terrific
2012-06-05 03:20 am UTC (link)
Not really surprised, but if Robinson makes it work, then I'm all for it. Just don't anyone get attached to his lover...(pssst. Check the Golden Age Green Lantern's origin, remember that he's getting onto a bullet train...just sayin').

My only problem with the whole thing is that I keep hearing Katherine Tate saying, "Have ye heard about our Alan Scott? He's a gay man now!"

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[info]obsidianwolf
2012-06-07 07:34 pm UTC (link)
Personally I'm worried they'll use the obvious fate of any Green Lantern who isn't Hal's love interest to ensure he wont' date anyone for a while. Cause he'll be in mourning.

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