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	kadath 2005-05-25 08:30 pm UTC (link)
	I fully support wrath over bad spelling and grammar. Srsly, ppl need 2 make less mistakes. Its really rediculous. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sarajayechan 2005-05-25 08:36 pm UTC (link)
	Well, yeah, spelling and grammar are important and I'd appreciate it if people used them. But some people go way overboard with their bitching. Besides, teenyboppers have bite. Scold their spelling and you might get an inbox full of "OMG U MEENIE ITS MY STORY I DO WHAT I WANT FUCK U BLAH BLAH BLAH CURSE WORDS STUPID WITCH CHANTS MUSES EXPLOSIONS BLAH BLAH BLAH". (Reply to this)(Parent)

	shoiryu 2005-05-25 08:57 pm UTC (link)
	You forgot to affix i_stalk_piccolo's username to every single one of those. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sarajayechan 2005-05-25 08:59 pm UTC (link)
	I don't see her bitching nearly as much aguynamedgoo does. (Reply to this)(Parent)

iczer6
2005-05-25 09:19 pm UTC (link)

Word yo. I still keep it on my friendslist because occasionally a good rant will turn up, or a good discussion will happen.

"Dear reviewers, UNLESS YOUR REVIEWS ARE FULLY ARTICULATED ESSAYS THEN STFU!!! No Love, Mr./Ms. Elitist."

This amuses me because these are the people that bitch the loudest whenever anyone complains about a WIP being unfinished or authors acting like asshats and say how the authors don't owe the fans anything.

That's true but the fans don't owe the author anything either. So why is it okay to bitch about them but not the other way around?

If you're wondering why you're not getting concrit it's most likely because you're driving people who would help away with you're elitist ranting.

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Yes.

ruaki
2005-05-25 09:42 pm UTC (link)

I honestly don't know why they get so upset over it. Usually if a fic has spelling 'lyk tis' then that's a sign the fic is probably a badfic anyway. There are better things to complain about if you're going to bitch--ZOMG CHARACTER!RAPE or ZOMG MARY SUE@#--than whether or not a word is spelled correctly or if the sex is realistic.

Even more so when one takes into context that this is all about fanfiction. I'm not sure when the fans started feeling entitled that the author has to grace them with works of poetic art, but it's getting kind of out of hand. I always considered fanfiction to be a subset of wish-fulfillment and it's definitely a hobby for the casual writers (and some not-so-casual). That's probably why I'm pretty easy going about the presence of badfic or poor characterization or even grammar ignorance in any fandom I'm in. It's fun to mock, I'll toast to that, but actually getting seizures over it seems a little excessive.

I can't... comprehend that mindset...

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	somnambulicious 2005-05-25 11:29 pm UTC (link)
	How 'bout framing the 3bil fangirls' positions entirely in chatspeak? "Everyone who disagrees with me typ$ liek dis with liberal sprinklings of OMG!" (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sarajayechan 2005-05-25 11:35 pm UTC (link)
	I remember when Millyfan did that to the author of that Wolfwood/OC drabble. She took the person's very polite reply and put it through the AOLer generator. I find that very stupid and immature and annoying. >E (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	somnambulicious 2005-05-25 11:59 pm UTC (link)
	Lately, I find myself more irritated by fanficrants than I am by my fandom. And I'm in the Inuyasha fandom, so that's saying something. (Reply to this)(Parent)

didodiva
2005-05-25 11:54 pm UTC (link)

Ooh, you forgot a rant.

"Dun go givin _____ from ____ a makovr, spesal powas an hav her luv (that guy she hates)"

We all hate Sues. We have Sues and Sueified canon characters in all our fandoms. But we do not need to bitch about it all the time.

What also gets me are the nonstop microscopic fandom rants. Meaning rants for microscopic fandoms, not mincroscopic rants. A few are fine, but it seems that's almost all there is lately, and I've never even heard of a lot of these.

Also, whining about particular stories. This isn't GAFF, people. There needs to be a rants against fanficrants community.

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ladybirdsleeps
2005-05-26 12:37 am UTC (link)

A long time ago, fanficrants was inundated with rants about specific fics: basically, links to awful fics and a couple of throw-away sentences about sporking one's eyes out.

A new community was created just for those type of rants because they were so annoying. It was badfic_mainline or something. Or it was already there and the mod just directed people that way. I don't remember.

Now they're coming baaaaack ...

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	sarajayechan 2005-05-26 12:41 am UTC (link)
	nods Badfic Mainline, Badfic, Badfic support, Stop the badfic... I used to be a big fan of those places. Now I just use my own LJ for fic ranting. :P (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sarajayechan 2005-05-26 12:38 am UTC (link)
	Ah, that reminds me I also forgot about the "CHARACTER A IS THIS WAY AND IF YOU WRITE HER ANY OTHER WAY SHE IS OOC AND YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!" ranters. Whoops! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mistressrenet 2005-05-26 02:19 am UTC (link)
	Oh yeah, those are my favorites. Especially when I couldn't disagree more. And "Char A hates Char B! They'd never have sex!" (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sarajayechan 2005-05-26 02:34 am UTC (link)
	Yep. :P (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ladybirdsleeps 2005-05-26 12:34 am UTC (link)
	Some posters who write stuff like that are clearly being hyperbolic, but some of them are certainly ... umm ... Perhaps some valium is in order. (Reply to this)

eclair
2005-05-26 01:04 am UTC (link)

I've never been able to come up with a good rant, I'll start it off and try to be witty or cute and then get distracted by porn or something. I'm actually also afraid of my English, because I didn't know what a gerund was until three years ago, so I'm still no where near mastering the language. I feel it shows.

Anyway, my fandoms aren't blessed with mary sues or the like, there's only four fanfics in it as it is. So a rant is pretty rare. ~~Unless I peek at the ToS fandom, but good lord. I'm not touching that with a 20 foot pole.~~

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	ruaki 2005-05-26 01:16 am UTC (link)
	~~You know, I'm currently trying to figure out why the ToS fandom is so crazy.~~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eclair 2005-05-26 01:22 am UTC (link)
	~~Hell if you ask me, its a perfectly normal game. I... I don't honestly know why, it just sprang 700 fanfics up one day containing zillions of sues, crazy pairings, and bad writing?~~ Who know so many crazy people owned a Gamecube... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	dawnswalker 2005-05-26 01:28 am UTC (link)
	~~I think it's because the Gamecube has so few RPGs, all of the crazy flowed into one game's fandom?~~ I think it's kind of funny. As long as you go into the fandom with suitably lowered expectations. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eclair 2005-05-26 01:35 am UTC (link)
	...Wh.. What about Skies of Arcadia? That's a kickass RPG! Why is there no sekrit pirate queens strutting their awesome airships and wooing the heart of Vyse?! Then again, I'd go into this fandom more if I'm promises Sheena boobs, dammit. Those were glorious, glorious breasts. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eclair 2005-05-26 01:36 am UTC (link)
	if I'm promised* Wow, did I just have a Gollum (sp) moment there? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

dawnswalker
2005-05-26 01:56 am UTC (link)

You waaaants them, you doessss!

Well, Skies of Arcadia's fandom mostly expresses it's... specialness through totally off the hook Mary Sues, and totally out of character Aika/Fina bitchfights. The crack-induced pairings and WHEE ZANY HAPPENINGS fics are somewhat subdued when compared to those of Tales of Symphonia, despite having many more hot characters to pair up, and pretty much canonical gayness.

~~No, I did not spend entirely too much time thinking about this.~~

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	eclair 2005-05-26 01:59 am UTC (link)
	In my little world, Ramirez would totally have some private swashbuckling with Vyse. I have to admit, the ToS characters are a special brand of sexy. Even Lloyd can be sexy, in a dorky "I learned my ABCs today!" type of way. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ruaki
2005-05-26 02:53 am UTC (link)

Oh yes, thank you. Lloyd is goddamned sexy. Even when dorktacular. And he's REALLY friggin' sexy in fanart. ~~especially when wearing the judgment outfit zomg~~

But yes. Lloyd. ♥

You know, maybe that's why the fandom's so crazy. There's a lot of hot manflesh and womanflesh in the game. I mean, pretty much everyone in the game is their own brand of smex. And we all know that horny fans love to wank. ♥

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	loki 2005-05-26 02:31 am UTC (link)
	~~I'm not touching that with a 20 foot pole.~~ I haven't looked yet. Is it really that bad? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	eclair 2005-05-26 03:12 am UTC (link)
	...Well. Its pretty damn bad. 800+ fanfics of ToS, just imagine it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	loki 2005-05-26 04:43 am UTC (link)
	Damn. I'll just...be over here then. ~~I'm good at making forts out of blankets and chairs.~~ (Reply to this)(Parent)

dawnswalker
2005-05-26 01:25 am UTC (link)

I agree with you 100%. Mainly because it's all of these same people who are usually to blame when one of my pet badfics goes missing. Fics that are only bad in the "This kid needs more practice" sense or the "Boy, is this goofy..." sense are treated with far more hysteria than they're really worth, and I think that's a shame.

And the "OMG MARY SUE GOEZ 2 HOGWARTS SKOOL!" parodies that spring up to replace them are just... not very good.

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	sarajayechan 2005-05-26 02:34 am UTC (link)
	Even badfic parodies go overboard to the point where "clever" turns into "spiteful". (Reply to this)(Parent)

	smo 2005-05-26 02:04 am UTC (link)
	My objection to grammar and spelling rants is that in posting them, one is virtually guaranteed to make such errors of one's own. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	sarajayechan 2005-05-26 02:32 am UTC (link)
	So true. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	annabelle_lee 2005-05-26 02:53 am UTC (link)
	That's my whole point in reading fanficrants; the fact that people get so bent out of shape over things. Sure, some stuff is common sense, but they blow it out of such proportion that it's hilarious. Now what I'd like to see is someone take on the fics that are just badwrong; ones that could have been done well if they weren't so stereotypical and offensive. (Reply to this)

	iris 2005-05-26 04:06 am UTC (link)
	And it's the same few people venting their spleens every time, too. Part of me thinks I should take the damned thing off my friends list already, but then part of me keeps hoping for the rare gem like that fully illustrated rant about the many species of Kagome Sue. That one was pure gold. (Reply to this)(Thread)

sarajayechan
2005-05-26 04:11 am UTC (link)

Yeah. I'm getting sick of seeing aguynamedgoo's name pop up there at least twice a day.

Part of me thinks I should take the damned thing off my friends list already, but then part of me keeps hoping for the rare gem like that fully illustrated rant about the many species of Kagome Sue. That one was pure gold.

Yeah, the only reason I'm still a member is the rare fun and awesome discussions. And yeah, the Kagome Sue species rant was a good one.

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	mistressrenet 2005-05-26 01:16 pm UTC (link)
	That was the best thing ever. I don't have fanficrants on my flist-- I just go there when I'm bored ~~which is often~~. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	coffee_mug 2005-05-26 10:09 am UTC (link)
	Word. Word on also the Kagome Sue species rant. Rants that deliver a point but aren't too anal and know how not to take themselves too seriously are the ones I mostly appreciate. Humorous rants rock my world. (Reply to this)

	shun_mcdaddy 2005-05-26 02:12 pm UTC (link)
	Thank you! You summed up all the things that made me leave Fanficrants, not to mention some of the commentors also need a breather. (Reply to this)

	bishounenhuntrs 2005-05-26 03:39 pm UTC (link)
	I don't have to have it on my f-list. All I've gotta do is read Kanna's or your LJ to catch the really funny ones. "Think of JIMMY" snicker (Reply to this)