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	muzivitch 2004-09-19 12:00 am UTC (link)
	Pr0n? I don't really know - mostly because my threesomes tend to be m/m/m, as there's maybe three females in all of Prince of Tennis that are around the same age as the majority of the male characters. But right. Suggestion. Um. ...Bi-slash seems to be a bit too lingo-y for me, but it's all I can think of. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2004-09-19 12:06 am UTC (link)
	Pr0n? LOL Yeah, that's what a friend of mine said. "Umm... I call them 'really really hot?'" Bi-slash still implies slash and a lot of people have issues with that because they think slash is exclusively gay. I don't necessarily agree with them but I know that "slash" is an unclear descriptor for that reason. Maybe hetslash? =) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	allen 2004-09-19 12:15 am UTC (link)
	Someone suggest the word hash? I like that one, myself. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2004-09-19 01:42 am UTC (link)
	I saw that! And it's cute. If only it weren't a common name for marijuana. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	allen 2004-09-19 03:21 am UTC (link)
	Yeah. Or is it heroin? Either way, I look at it and think either of hash marks (#) or hash browns.... mmm, has browns. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	big_bad_wolf 2004-09-19 11:04 am UTC (link)
	Marijuana - it's derived from "hashish" as eaten by the Hashishim (later the Assassins). < /random trivia nerd> (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	misswindy 2004-09-19 07:46 pm UTC (link)
	Suuuuuuuure. "Trivia nerd." coughs (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	big_bad_wolf 2004-09-19 09:34 pm UTC (link)
	:p Trivia nerd and random drug abuser! The two are not always mutual exclusive. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sepiamagpie 2004-09-20 02:56 am UTC (link)
	your icon makes me happy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	coyotegirl 2004-09-19 10:18 pm UTC (link)
	Has browns? Is that what you call hash browns that are somewhat too old to be any good? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	ashenmote 2004-09-19 12:23 am UTC (link)
	How about 'The Thing That Shouldn't Exist'? picks suitable icon (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2004-09-19 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	Are you kidding? I'd have to delete half my stories. Quit raining on my parade!!!! ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ashenmote 2004-09-20 08:07 pm UTC (link)
	Damn. I liked the term. quits raining Hmmm...maybe we can label it as 'crossover', then? (Reply to this)(Parent)

kyuuketsukirui
2004-09-19 12:41 am UTC (link)

I don't know if the really is a need for another term or not. That seems like it would just splinter things even further. I don't label my fics one way or the other. I just figure that people are smart enough to figure it out by the characters (although in the case of ambiguous names, that cane be confusing...when I first read the wank you posted, I thought

kelex had written a het fic, since I'm not familiar with Smallville and have a good (female) friend named Whitney...).

What bugs me is the idea that anything with girl parts in it should not be posted to a slash list (what if it was a multi-chaptered story with some Ron/Hermione/Harry chapters and some chapters where it was just Ron and Harry shagging? Are you not to post the R/Hr/H chapters on that list?) and giving m/m/f and f/f/m their own term seems like it would only encourage that.

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xero_sky
2004-09-19 09:48 am UTC (link)

What bugs me is the idea that anything with girl parts in it should not be posted to a slash list

Well, it does depend on the list, doesn't it? I'm on two yaoi lists for the same fandom, and one of them requests no het at ALL, while the other requires that the main pair be m/m, with warnings for het chapters. I'm also on a list for another fandom that requires warnings for any couples, slash or het, but allows them all. It just depends on what fandom and where you post.

I agree that we don't need a new term for it, though.

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misswindy
2004-09-19 07:53 pm UTC (link)

I don't know if the really is a need for another term or not. That seems like it would just splinter things even further. I don't label my fics one way or the other.

Oh, me neither. I think I was mostly just curious about these people who were vehemently claiming it's not slash (slash meaning "explicitly and exclusively gay" for those folks) and the folks insisting it isn't straight either. I mean, to me, the latter position seems obvious. A story that has two guys giving each other blowjobs isn't heterosexual erotica. The former position seems a little less obvious and necessitating more narrow definitions.

I tend to want "slash" to be, in fanfic, descriptive of the same sexual arenas as the word "queer" is in real-life politics - anything that deviates from exclusive heterosexuality. But apparently this is far too ambiguous and confusing for some people, and I get that, but my question for those folks is, then what is it?

I, like you, don't label anything I write and tend to think that a fic labeled "Colin/Amy/Ephram" (I write a lot for the Everwood fandom) is a self-explanatory threesome, but the idea that someone who writes threesomes isn't technically a slasher is a little odd and exclusionary to me, don't you think?

What bugs me is the idea that anything with girl parts in it should not be posted to a slash list (what if it was a multi-chaptered story with some Ron/Hermione/Harry chapters and some chapters where it was just Ron and Harry shagging? Are you not to post the R/Hr/H chapters on that list?) and giving m/m/f and f/f/m their own term seems like it would only encourage that.

*nods* It might also pre-emptively reduce a lot of bitching, too, though, yes?

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iczer6
2004-09-19 09:38 pm UTC (link)

What bugs me is the idea that anything with girl parts in it should not be posted to a slash list

This bugs me because it's up to the list owner to decide what they want and don't want on their lists.

If they don't wank 'icky girl parts' on their slash lists that's their right.

If you don't like it find another list or just don't post that part of the fic.

I remember being on certain pairing list where the rule was that fics had to center on that pairing. If they didn't they couldn't be posted there.

Most people would just post links to parts of the story that weren't ____ pairing centric and that seemed to work well for everyone.

Icz

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	livingadream 2004-09-19 01:10 am UTC (link)
	I believe the standard term is threesomes. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2004-09-19 07:54 pm UTC (link)
	Obviously! :P You know what I mean, though, in terms of fannish categories of genre. Is "Threesomes" really considered its own separate genre? If so, what does that mean, and are "twosomes" also considered the same kind of genre? I dont' think so (I think "twosome" stories are sort of normative anyway in this sense.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	livingadream 2004-09-19 07:57 pm UTC (link)
	That's the trouble, isn't it? Maybe you should use the above suggestion of "hash". (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kannaophelia 2004-09-19 08:26 am UTC (link)
	Non-fannish archives tend to list them as bisexual. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	misswindy 2004-09-19 07:45 pm UTC (link)
	nods But nonfannish archives also don't call it "slash." They call them "adult gay" and other less lingo-y terms. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	adora_spintriae 2004-09-27 08:45 am UTC (link)
	Holy shitchrist. Is that a Jem icon? steals like fuck (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	kannaophelia 2004-09-27 04:09 pm UTC (link)
	Pizzazz would like you to come within arm reach and then tell her it's a Jem icon. Yes. It is.</i> And help yourself! After all, a true Misfit never asks, she takes. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	moonjaguar 2004-09-19 08:44 pm UTC (link)
	That's cinchy! /'70s It's bitextual. (Reply to this)

	adora_spintriae 2004-09-27 08:49 am UTC (link)
	Usually I've seen them just get called m/m/f or f/f/m threesomes. I don't think anyone's ever tried to invent a term for them (though I do like the 'hash' one) because there'd be an uberwank over it somewhere. (Reply to this)