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	panthea 2007-08-25 03:48 am UTC (link)
	Yes, but is she notable? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	msilverstar 2007-08-25 03:54 am UTC (link)
	In fandom, she's legendary... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	panthea 2007-08-25 03:56 am UTC (link)
	Dude, in fandom we're legendary, and that still didn't save the F_W article from the chopping block. EMO TEAR. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iwanttobeasleep 2007-08-25 03:57 am UTC (link)
	FW got deleted from Wikipedia? Unfair! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tunxeh 2007-08-25 04:00 am UTC (link)
	Yes. But it took two debates to kill it. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	photosinensis 2007-08-25 01:03 pm UTC (link)
	And the second one was started (and heavily trolled) by You Know Who. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	onyxnoir 2007-08-25 10:42 pm UTC (link)
	Heh. I knew that name looked familliar. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	iwanttobeasleep 2007-08-25 03:56 am UTC (link)
	I'd say so. She's got a huge history in fandom, and she's a published author. I can't imagine why that isn't enough, considering the other stuff that's on Wikipedia. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sashenka 2007-08-25 04:51 am UTC (link)
	She's written a book and I think that being an actual published author should be enough to have a wikipedia article if there's information to be put in it, regardless of quality. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	tunxeh 2007-08-25 04:54 am UTC (link)
	I think their usual standard is that someone has to have published a review of the book. But this one was prominently marketed enough that I'd expect that to be true... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ealusaid 2007-08-25 05:03 am UTC (link)
	But there have been published reviews. Someone posted one to a wank-related community because the reviewer said the book sounded like a cheap ripoff of Buffy and a few other shows and everyone wondered who the reviewer's fandom name was. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sashenka 2007-08-25 05:03 am UTC (link)
	That makes sense. It would keep vanity publishers who've sold three books from writing articles about themselves. (Reply to this)(Parent)

ciceronianus
2007-08-25 05:13 am UTC (link)

Not to be too big of a Wiki stickler, but the grounds for book notability include the book having won an important award of some kind, having been adapted (film, play, television etc.), or the author being so significant that anything they do automatically warrants a mention (there's other stuff, but I don't remember what it is).

I think the article would probably survive the nomination if it had sources that were outside of Cassandra Claire's control listed.

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	sashenka 2007-08-25 05:28 am UTC (link)
	According to here several reviews or media articles warrant an entry on wikipedia, though I don't actually know if she's attained that, but if she has, she meets the requirements. I wish I hadn't been bored enough to look that up. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	isobelsomething 2007-08-25 05:44 am UTC (link)
	I love your icon! <3 Futurama. (Reply to this)(Parent)

purplepopple
2007-08-25 02:14 pm UTC (link)

Alas, she does. She's been mentioned in New York Times as she is a New York Times best selling author. See? and her book was mentioned in DeathRay Magazine. She was interviewed by Jive Magazine. She's been a guest at DragonCon. I know she got mentioned in Locus magazine. Um. There is a decent list.

The article has patrolling problems. Occassionally people have edited in links to FanHistory.Com and they've been edited right back out. Then, FanHistory.Com is listed as not a credible source. (Really, I understand that. Other sources are better and they exist... Except FanHistory.Com is viewed as credible for at least three other articles... but I digress.)

On an unrelated note, her popularity seems to be on the decline! At least in terms of interest from the general public so yeah! ~~Maybe. I hope. I keep getting more traffic but Google is saying she's not as popular in terms of just searching as she was in the past, rank wise.~~ And it looks that way on blog pulse too.

People are also writing fan fiction based on her work and posting it to FanFiction.Net. This is one. The other story seems to have been deleted.

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	mrbimble 2007-08-25 03:00 pm UTC (link)
	She was at a panel for Holly Black, as the questioner. Not really a GUEST in terms of having her own panel, or having a signing table or anything. ~~Not that I attended Holly's panel just to see Cassie. NO! I DIDN'T! Why would you think that?~~ (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	purplepopple 2007-08-25 03:06 pm UTC (link)
	It was mentioned on this community at the time that she was there... and there were a couple of LiveJournal posts about how she and Holly Black had been tippling a bit on stage and how that was unattractive and not very cool for a panel on Children's Literature. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	janegraddell 2007-08-25 03:17 pm UTC (link)
	Wait, are you talking about her panel at DragonCon? I was there, too. We seriously need some kind of fandom_wank dress code for these things... (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

mrbimble
2007-08-27 04:14 pm UTC (link)

I was at the YA Holly Black panel that Cassie "moderated". Which basically meant she asked Holly stupid inane questions and Holly pontificated at length about how it's right to write about drugs and sex for 11-12 yr old kids and how she, as a teenager, would ride the subway to New York and sleep on the streets.

Um... yeah. I wasn't impressed with either of them. Cassie was... less than impressive and extremely coy when I approached the podium to take a picture. (Yeah, I WAS trying to get a picture of her, but I was taking a picture of both of them and why she felt it was necessary to keep shielding her face from my camera... Sorry, if you're "important" enough to be on a Dragon*Con panel, you can suck it up and get your picture taken. UGH. /rant) I heard tell that Holly's drink was adult in nature and certainly it's inappropriate at a Young Adult panel to be tibbling...,

Oh, and I was in costume - I think I was wearing Eowyn that day. (In case you remember) Are you going this year? I am and I'd love to say hi over coffee if you're so inclined!

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	janegraddell 2007-08-27 07:22 pm UTC (link)
	I was at a different panel, alas. I went to the first one, on Friday. All things considered, I'm not sorry I missed that one. And yep, I'll be there this year, and coffee sounds like a good thing. :) I'm coming in Thursday night and leaving Tuesday morning. My e-mail is janegraddell at gmail dot com if you want to arrange a time and place. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	naeelah 2007-08-30 01:37 pm UTC (link)
	I'll be at D*C this year and probably check out one of CC's panels ~~and not just because I'm hoping someone will heckle~~. I'll have to make a pin with F_W on it or something. ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	maexle 2007-08-25 11:57 am UTC (link)
	I don't know about "notable", but I think she's at least "notorious". Isn't that enough? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	missdaisy 2007-08-26 04:14 am UTC (link)
	It was for Mae West. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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