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Cleolinda Jones ([info]cleolinda) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2007-10-31 19:58:00
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Uh oh: Rowling sues HP Lexicon.


P.S. Bonus Dumblegay whining.

P.P.S. Defensive Mouse Is Defensive.
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dracothelizard
2007-11-01 02:02 am UTC (link)
Well, it makes sense for her to do it. Also, if it's mostly just going to be what's on the website, what's the point of doing the book? The website gets you the info for free.

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[info]qem_chibati
2007-11-01 02:07 am UTC (link)
Well she's planning on releasing her own encyclopedia isn't she?

But I guess this means a lot of fanzines are going to be worried over the next couple of months...

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[info]hylarn
2007-11-01 02:09 am UTC (link)
Not terribly suprising, considering that it includes most of the text from FBWFT.

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[info]rekall
2007-11-01 02:12 am UTC (link)
I don't blame Jo.

Although I do wonder why the Lexicon wants to release a book version of their site. I mean, why a book when you can just go to the website for free?

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[info]cat_mcdougall
2007-11-01 02:15 am UTC (link)
Okay, so, I'm trying to follow thought processes here:

JK not only approves of the Lexicon, but gave it an award a few years ago.

Lexicon, hit by the stupid stick, decides to print their information without running it past JK/WB/Bloomsbury/etc.

JK says "Whoa! Net okay, print bad. Mmmkay?"

Publisher is shocked by this. The stupid stick has been making the rounds.

... I'm kinda baffled at the logic here. JK approved the site, but I can understand why she doesn't want a print book to be made about it.

Personally, if the Lexicon really wants to print, they need to sit down with JK/WB/legal eagles, and decide that "Okay, so JK gets 50% of the profits. WB gets 10%, the Lexicon gets 5%, and the rest goes to... [insert charity(ies) of choice]" Cos then, everyone comes out looking good.

Sorry. I'll take my Earth logic elsewhere.

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[info]livii
2007-11-01 03:04 am UTC (link)
My problem with the Lexicon in print is that it's so full of errors, damnit. Please don't make people take it more seriously! (Also, Jo is pushing ahead with her encyclopedia then, I guess? Whee!)

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[info]rosetta
2007-11-01 03:18 am UTC (link)
Yeah, the HP Lexicon people are slightly deluded. Although I still foresee wank.

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[info]wonapalei
2007-11-01 03:19 am UTC (link)
I totally understand where JKR's coming from, but how did it get as far as suing? Did she ever contact the Lexicon folks and request that they stop trying to publish a book version? Or did they just decide that it would be a great idea to publish a book version and go right ahead without letting her know, and now it's gone too far for a simple request?

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[info]furiosity
2007-11-01 03:34 am UTC (link)
I totally get her reasons for the lawsuit, and they're completely valid. I just don't understand how a book like this managed to escape the notice of Bloomsbury/Scholastic/etc. legal eagles in the first place. Aren't publishers obligated to report their deals?

Though JKR is a little bit lacking in logic if she seriously thinks that a print-version of the Lexicon would hurt sales of an encyclopedia she wrote. 'Cause it really wouldn't. I'll just tell myself her lawyers convinced her that Lexicon Steve is somehow competition.

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[info]lidane
2007-11-01 04:26 am UTC (link)
I've already seen one person on my f-list get mad at JKR for suing.

Personally, I understand her reasons. Besides, the Lexicon would be incomplete, since JKR would presumably add much more detail and insight to the characters she created.

*shrug*

I don't understand why we need a print version of the Lexicon anyhow. It's already online, and it's free. Why pay extra for the same info?

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[info]peachespig
2007-11-01 04:36 am UTC (link)
Didn't they, you know, ask first? I'm kind of surprised it ever came to this.

Wasn't it generally known that Lexicon Steve was hoping to be the official HP encyclopedia guy after DH, with the author's approval and access to JKR's old notes and everything? Maybe this is his ill-thought-out back-up plan after the disappointment of learning JKR was going to do her own.

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[info]kijikun
2007-11-01 04:42 am UTC (link)
For a second I was wondering why on earth she'd sue a website she's talked about and linked to...then I clicked the link and saw the thing about making a book form of the website.

Uhm yeah, not so bright there Lexicon.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-11-01 06:31 am UTC

[info]white_serpent
2007-11-01 04:42 am UTC (link)
Thank you, JKR. You have listened to your fans on F_W.

We were so disappointed by the book release... but then there was the interview. And now this!

You're too good to us! ♥

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(no subject) - [info]ravynstoneabbey, 2007-11-01 05:49 am UTC

[info]westmoon
2007-11-01 05:24 am UTC (link)
I was told that she was asked. And quite clearly said no.

It was talked about at the Prophecy convention in Toronto this summer, and apparently Steve was quite miffed that she refused to give him permission - as were some of the people to whom he related his tale of woe. Because, you know, entitlement.

So why this still went ahead when they knew how she felt, I really don't understand.

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I take part of that back. - [info]white_serpent, 2007-11-01 08:38 pm UTC
Re: I take part of that back. - (Anonymous), 2007-11-01 10:11 pm UTC
Re: I take part of that back. - [info]white_serpent, 2007-11-01 10:47 pm UTC
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[info]imp
2007-11-01 05:59 am UTC (link)
Screw Lexicon's book, I'm itching for JK's. OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGIWANTITNOWICAN'TWAAAAIT.

...Ahem. Seriously though, they should've known better than that. Just respect the lady's wishes and move on, people! You honestly can't have expected that to fly!

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(no subject) - [info]azazello, 2007-11-01 08:07 pm UTC

[info]coffee_mug
2007-11-01 11:12 am UTC (link)
Oh, that makes sense. I was all "WTF! She likes the Lexicon!" but there's a huge difference between having it online available for everybody and fact-checking their fics and publishing it in book format.

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2007-11-01 11:34 am UTC (link)
Dear Fandom

Stop trying to make money our of fanfic and fannish archives. You make the rest of us look like a bunch of dunderheads.

Thanks

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[info]scifantasy
2007-11-01 02:18 pm UTC (link)
This is as much why I want to go into law as anything else: because people are stupid about intellectual property as a concept. Claiming too much, claiming that they should be able to use others', completely misinterpreting Fair Use law...

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[info]shallow_kid
2007-11-01 02:19 pm UTC (link)
Hmmm ... I can kinda understand someone wanting to publish the Lexicon, but not really since there's already a free version at our fingertips. So that's sort of dumb. I REALLY can't understand them publishing essays, though. I haven't been to the Lexicon post-DH so I dunno if they have any new, insightful stuff. So if they were wanting to publish their already existing essays that would also be dumb since they're outdated and (mostly) wrong.

I see where she's coming from and I agree although it sucks it came this far. Hopefully she'll get on that encyclopedia quicker to preempt any more weirdness like this! :D

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(no subject) - [info]angua9, 2007-11-01 09:55 pm UTC

[info]wanktastic
2007-11-01 02:58 pm UTC (link)
*reads comments*

The "but Mugglenet got to do it!" mouse is cracking me up.

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[info]dorothy1901
2007-11-01 03:14 pm UTC (link)
Komzguy:
I could care less about Rowling's problems. I hope she loses every dime she made off of the Potter series. I am so let down after she said that Dumbledore was gay on national prime time television. I don't care if the fictional made up character is gay in her empty head. I don't care what other people do in thier personal lives as long as you don't expect me to say it's ok, keep your private life private. But why does she have to put that spin on books so popular with kids, and after the fact no less. You think if the books had been a flop that she would have told her very small circle of friends that Dubmledore was gay? Rowling you are a bad person, you are a sponge soaking up the limelight and are afraid the good times are over. I hope you are right.
Translation: She ran over my dog! Twice! Damn you, JKR! ::shakes tiny fist::

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[info]julesnoctambule
2007-11-01 05:18 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one who doesn't want an Official Guide to Everything? I like having blanks to fill in, myself.

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The Publisher Is Going To Make This a Lovely Event
(Anonymous)
2007-11-01 06:52 pm UTC (link)
Publisher Roger Rapoport, founder of RDR Books, said he believes the lawsuit is retaliation for a letter sent to Warner about a timeline used on Harry Potter DVDs.

"They can try to buy some time with this, but there is simply no way to stop the book from coming out as planned," Rapoport said Wednesday.

"Steve created this Web site as a volunteer project on his own time, and stopping a book of his own creation is not something that happens in America. It's something that could only happen in a police state."

http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-38/1193919916300340.xml&coll=6&thispage=1

Lauryn

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Re: The Publisher Is Going To Make This a Lovely Event - (Anonymous), 2007-11-01 06:54 pm UTC
Re: The Publisher Is Going To Make This a Lovely Event - [info]lidane, 2007-11-01 07:16 pm UTC
Re: The Publisher Is Going To Make This a Lovely Event - (Anonymous), 2007-11-01 09:34 pm UTC
Re: The Publisher Is Going To Make This a Lovely Event - (Anonymous), 2007-11-01 11:06 pm UTC
Re: The Publisher Is Going To Make This a Lovely Event - (Anonymous), 2007-11-02 12:17 am UTC

[info]fresco_le_raye
2007-11-01 07:22 pm UTC (link)
"not something that happens in America

Would that be the same America that keeps pissing off the rest of the world with its heavy-handed and draconian copyright laws which it tries to enforce on everyone else in said world?...

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[info]sheep
2007-11-01 08:04 pm UTC (link)
http://gehayi.livejournal.com/276804.html

TY Wank Report mouse :)

According to Gehayi, JKR is a fucking bitch!

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