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	seiberwing 2008-02-07 03:46 am UTC (link)
	Pardon me, have to go change my undergarments. (Reply to this)(Thread)

gloria_mundi
2008-02-07 03:58 am UTC (link)

I'm not that big of a fan, but it did give me a nice little chill.

One of the things I like about this teaser is that it conveys something we never really see in Trek: the size.

Aside from a couple of shots in the movies, and the opening for DS9, we never really get a sense of how big things are in the Trekverse. The starbases alone could probably generate their own gravity field if you spun them, but we never really see that. These things are supposed to be able to house starships, but again, only a couple of shots in the movies really show just how big those things are.

The Enterprise D had a saucer a mile in diameter, if memory serves, but in seven freakin years, they never really showed us that except to put a Borg Cube next to it.

But this, the Enterprise ("no a, b, c, or bloody d" Best line in the entire franchise), is big and the trailer shows it.

That's awesome.

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whimsy_chan
2008-02-07 03:54 am UTC (link)

I just can't help it! Star Trek was my first fandom! When the camera pans over the hull and you see "U.S.S. Enterprise" I get all excited!

That said, I am still fully prepared to hate this movie with every fiber of my being. Especially since I saw the cast. :/ Am I in the minority here?

(Also, Scotty is to be played by Simon Pegg. I like Simon Pegg, but I just can't picture him as Scotty.)

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	gloria_mundi 2008-02-07 03:59 am UTC (link)
	I'm not exactly excited either, but damn, this is cool. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

whimsy_chan
2008-02-07 04:21 am UTC (link)

It is--there's no denying that. And I'll probably go see it in the theater just for the coolness of seeing the original Enterprise done up all pretty. But the cast--the cast hurts me. The kid they've got to play Chekov doesn't look old enough to have graduated high school, let alone Starfleet Academy. And the guy they've got to play young!Spock looks like he has caterpillars glued to his forehead where his eyebrows should go. (Exhibits 1-37.)

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	gloria_mundi 2008-02-07 04:22 am UTC (link)
	I'm going to wait until there's actual footage before I pass judgement. The fact that Nimoy will be in the film gives me some hope. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	puipui 2008-02-07 04:46 am UTC (link)
	They appear to have waxed his eyebrows for the role, if that helps any. Caterpillars! Hee! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jar 2008-02-07 10:22 am UTC (link)
	They appear to have waxed his eyebrows for the role, if that helps any See, that just makes me sad. His eyebrows are what I like most about him :(. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	spacelogic 2008-02-07 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Chekov's a real Russian. That's gotta be, like, illegal or something. I'm more down because I wish they'd let Trek die and make something in its spirit instead -- I want a show that breaks boundaries nobody else is daring to break, not a movie based on a show that broke boundaries fortyish years ago. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	the_mouse 2008-02-07 08:20 am UTC (link)
	I don't think you need to worry about Young!Spock. Quinto and Nimoy gave awards at the Scream Awards show (not at the same time) and I was about blown away at how much they looked alike in person. ETA: fixed typos and provide this:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pyOzA6aMqko It's an interview with both Quinto and Nimoy. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	queencallipygos 2008-02-07 07:08 pm UTC (link)
	The kid they've got to play Chekov doesn't look old enough to have graduated high school, let alone Starfleet Academy. (looks) Oh, Anton Yeltchin! He's not bad, actually. But yeah, very young. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	bubosquared 2008-02-09 04:15 am UTC (link)
	... It's like he skilled the Gallagher brothers. o_O Both of them! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	seiberwing 2008-02-07 04:26 am UTC (link)
	...you're joking. Simon Pegg? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	whimsy_chan 2008-02-07 04:33 am UTC (link)
	No joke--most of the cast is already listed at IMDb, and just this weekend I saw a magazine article (can't recall which magazine, sadly) that had photos of the entire main cast. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	seiberwing 2008-02-07 04:46 am UTC (link)
	That's very odd. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	cmdr_zoom 2008-02-07 06:19 am UTC (link)
	He's hot right now because of his other movies, so who cares whether he looks like Doohan, right? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	danceswithelvis 2008-02-07 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Nope. I fear what they will do to it. (Reply to this)(Parent)

smashingstars
2008-02-08 03:25 am UTC (link)

Well, you're not alone. I'm torn about the whole thing. Part of me wants to be offended and shocked -- SHOCKED! -- that Nimoy is reciting the opening line of the show. The rest of me just tries to stay calm.

The weird thing about Simon Pegg is that no one seems to even know he's in the movie. I've mentioned it in a couple of other communities and people are always so surprised.

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	coyotegirl 2008-02-07 04:18 am UTC (link)
	My husband says WHAT. He's not required to go with me, though, so his opinion doesn't matter. :B (Reply to this)

	cmdr_zoom 2008-02-07 04:37 am UTC (link)
	Seen it. It's actually been out there for a while. Some fans (not me, of course, coughcough) have griped about the details - ground assembly with what looks like mid-20th C welding equipment, wrong font for the ship's registry, etc. We've been told "wait and see", and I guess we don't really have a choice. (Reply to this)(Thread)

gloria_mundi
2008-02-07 04:46 am UTC (link)

I'm going to argue the ground assembly bit. If memory serves, all the Enterprises were constructed at the Utopia Planetia shipyards in Earth Orbit.

We've also seen that the Starbases can house ships of the original Enterprise's size with ease.

Given that, I would argue that there's nothing to indicate ground assembly and this could very well be an enclosed chamber at the shipyards with air in it to facillitate welding. Issac Asimov in one of the Robot City books actually cited something like this where having a breathable asmotsphere for humans was conductive for robots to build something or another. It's been years since I read the book.

Also, the font? Seriously? Arguing over the font? The font?

Finally, I sincerely doubt that this sequence would appear in the actual movie. It's more of a metaphor for the film being currently in production.

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cmdr_zoom
2008-02-07 06:15 am UTC (link)

Yes, the font. They seem to be using the one from the movies on, rather than the USAF-style lettering of the original, which is etched in everyone's memories (and DVD library). There's no reason to change details like that on a CGI model except for the sake of change itself.

The appearance of NCC-1701 no bloody A B C or D is pretty well documented (in 79 original episodes and some very nice and accurate guest shots since). This is not a new ship, it's supposed to be our "first" look at the old one.

I'm really hoping that it is metaphorical.

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	cmdr_zoom 2008-02-07 06:23 am UTC (link)
	also coughs s'more Utopia Planitia is on Mars; the UP yards are in orbit above the surface feature they're named for. You're thinking of the San Francisco Naval Yards (which currently exist, just not in orbit). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	gloria_mundi 2008-02-07 06:24 am UTC (link)
	Sorry, Mars. My bad. But my point stands. There's nothing in the trailer to indicate the Enterprise is being built planetside. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	altera 2008-02-07 04:51 am UTC (link)
	WAIT WAIT WAIT ERIC BANA IS IN THIS HOW DID I MISS THIS WHAT HAVE I BEEN ON???? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	altera 2008-02-07 04:55 am UTC (link)
	Damn, this is the same one as aired before Cloverfield, right? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	altera 2008-02-07 04:57 am UTC (link)
	No, slightly different... goddammit, I need a nap. (Reply to this)(Parent)

rosehiptea
2008-02-07 04:52 am UTC (link)

It wasn't what I was expecting, but in a good way... it got me kind of excited even though I'm at least a little cynical about the movie.

(Yeah, I know, I expressed so major cynicism here early on, but I've lightened up a little. And I'm looking forward to seeing Jennifer Morrison in it... don't laugh.)

The welding equipment does look 20th century so that was odd (I wouldn't even have predicted humans doing the welding) but I didn't the impression it was necessarily supposed to be on the ground either. Plus, yeah, metaphor.

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	gloria_mundi 2008-02-07 05:32 am UTC (link)
	Robots have never been widely used in Trek. Even Data was classified as an Android. Having humans doing the welding doesn't leap out as wrong at all. As for the welding equipment . . . um, the equipment looks the same because there's no need to change it? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

rosehiptea
2008-02-07 05:35 am UTC (link)

That's a good point about the robots, though I was more picturing machines than independent moving humanoid-ish things.

I actually have trouble believing welding equipment won't change in hundreds of years, especially considering the dangers and difficulties associated with it now, but I suppose I could be wrong.

That said, I really don't think it's a big deal in any way, especially since as you said it's probably not a scene from the film. I suspect the trailer was deliberately done that way to keep people guessing what it was for rather than screaming "Star Trek" or "science fiction" from the first second.

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gloria_mundi
2008-02-07 05:44 am UTC (link)

I'd like to see that in the final product, but I doubt it. Which is kind of a pity because as I said in another comment, a Trek ship is a marvel of structual engineering.

A lot of the film's success is going to depend on two things:

How big a fanboy Abrams is and how closely he plans to stick to the source. Going by the nacelles in the teaser, that's pretty close.

The other factor is Paramount. Star Trek is to them what The Simpsons are to Fox, their main moneymaker and they won't let Abrams do something if they think it might negativly hamper profits or if a focus group doesn't give it rave reviews or some other bullshit. The Simpsons at least have a track record, but Abrams has never touched Trek before.

The entire franchise hangs on this movie. Enterprise bombed, Nemesis was a poorly written piece of crap, and a lot of fans prefer DS9 or TNG to Voyager.

If this isn't a rousing sucess, there's gonna be trouble.

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	scifantasy 2008-02-07 01:13 pm UTC (link)
	If this isn't a rousing sucess, there's gonna be trouble. On the other hand, if it is, we could be looking at a new generation of "Born Again Trek." (I still need to refilk that song so it talks about this time...) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	brennalarose 2008-02-07 04:11 pm UTC (link)
	Oh. My. God. I have goosebumps now. I'm in love. (Reply to this)

queencallipygos
2008-02-07 07:14 pm UTC (link)

The Callipygos-Consort and I were just discussing this the other day -- we saw the one that aired before CLOVERFIELD.

He said that in the original canon, the ship had actually been assembled in space, and so he hoped that they wouldn't play with canon further in things like Christopher Pike and the FIRST captain, et. al. I thought I'd seen a cast listing for Christopher Pike in the IMDB list, so I speculated that this was just a "make a trailer separately from the film" thing; the final credits said "under construction", so it looked to me like that sequence was something just filmed expressly for the trailer as a metaphor for "oh hai we're building yr movie just like they were building yr enterprize yay."

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gloria_mundi
2008-02-07 08:10 pm UTC (link)

That's pretty much what it is. Though I continue to maintain that the guy taking off the welding goggles looks like a young James Doohan.

As for planetside construction, the only part of the trailer that might indicate that is around the 40 second mark, when you see the underside of the saucer. If you pause it, there's what looks like a small ground complex around the base of the scaffolding and lights in the distance, but they could very well be coming off the shipyard "floor".

I really hope Nimoy gets to say the Speech. He's waited over thirty years, it's time.

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	vzg 2008-02-08 01:08 am UTC (link)
	As someone who is not an original Trek fan, or a fan of any Trek yet, I say: HOT DANG. This may make me one. And, as a result, I don't give a flying fuck about previous canon. This one, like Cloverfield, I'm in for the explosions. PEW PEW PEW. (Reply to this)

	ereshkigal 2008-02-08 09:15 pm UTC (link)
	I'd be more interested if there was something more to the trailer than "Look at our shiny CG! :DDDDDD" (Reply to this)

trek-ites
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2008-02-23 07:00 am UTC (link)

Isn't it great to spend night after night online in the company of your best friends? Nothing like shooting the shit with your pals after a long day of watching Star Trek VHS tapes. After the long walk upstairs, it feels so good to sit down in the Archthrone of your Painkeep, rip open a new Pringles can and start sipping a freshly concocted Mountain Dew-Quik shake you call the "Polyjuice Potion" in honor of Harry Potter. (uNF Ginny!!) You call it that because after you drink it, you transform into something completely different. Your deep cyst acne clears up, you forget about your obesity, and you can chat about anime with people who genuinely care about you. After a few hours, the chat slows down and you wander over to some Russian child porn sites you subscribe to. Here's hoping the feds don't track your Citibank card! Hehe. A good long session of stroking your four inch penis finally results in a few drops of clear semen on your flabby fist, which you wipe all over your lips and chin, inhaling deeply. Finally feeling a bit drowsy, you click off your monitor and crack open your Gentoo laptop so you can finish explaining why Babylon 5 shouldn't have been cancelled while in bed. You fall heavily onto your greasy mattress which has a stained pillow and a discolored blanket half draped on it. You sleepily type in a few lines of chat while popping some throbbing zits on your cheek, making more pin point stains on your pillow. Just as you see some orange glow around the edge of your sheet draped window you decide to catch some sleep. You hate this time of night (day?) Now your loneliness hits you like a wall. Almost every real friend you've ever made has forgotten about you or is disgusted by you. Why do you act like that? Why do you LOOK like that? You represent everything they don't want to be. Why couldn't you just stay on a diet? Why carve up every last pimple until yet another bloody crater has been dug out of your cheek? Go to sleep...go to sleep, you plead to yourself. Tomorrow is Season 4 of Voyager... Seven of Nine. You like to imagine that you're on that spaceship, part of something, part of a group. But you never will be. Tears mingle with pus stains on your pillow as you squeeze your eyes shut trying to push the terrible reality of your singular aloneness. If only you had done better in school, if only you could find a job... and you remember Mom wants you to mow the lawn tomorrow morning. Goddamn it, you're turning 30 this November and you're still doing this shit. Your life is a prison and there's no chance for parole. Seven of Nine...

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