phosfate
2004-11-29 08:43 pm UTC (link)

Apparently, they are vampire subculture terms.
http://www.house-eclipse.org/dictionary/d.shtml says:

Donor*(general, Sanguinarius, Sanguinarium)

1. (OSV and Sanguinarium) Someone who shares his or her blood or life energy, without obligation. Many donors enter into partnerships with vampires. These partnerships are often also sexual in nature, although they do not have to be. Many donors prefer to be monogamous, offering themselves to just one vampire at a time. Some donors will offer themselves to entire covens, provided their offerings are appreciated and not abused. Donors are cherished and protected by responsible vampires and are often given gifts in return for their services. They are honored affiliates of a House or coven. See also Source.
2. (Sanguinarius)Someone who gives or shares their blood or life-energy, without obligation. Many donors prefer to offer themselves to just one vampire, but some donors will offer of themselves to entire covens, provided their offerings are appreciated and not abused. (See also "source", "supplier")

Donor Swans: (formal, OSV)

In the OSV terminology, someone who shares thier blood or life energy without obligation. Many donors enter into partenrships with vampires. These partnerships may often be sexual in nature, although they do not have to be so. Many donors prefer to be monogamous, offering their gifts to just one vampire at a time. Some donors will offer themselves to an entire House or Order, provided that their offerings are appreciated and not abused. There are several types of donor swans in the OSV system including Crystal Swans (pranic or psi energy), Crimson Swans (Sanguine) and Amber Swans (Pranic and Sanguine). In the Eclipsan system, all nonvampiric allies of vampires are called Kithani and all donors given the title of M'kheru. (see also source or Kitra)

I don't know what "OSV" means.

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	mpoetess 2004-11-29 09:00 pm UTC (link)
	"The newest venture to hit the scene is the Ordo Strigoii Vii (OSV), which is a dark spiritual pathway and Vampyric religion designed for the Vampyre subculture. The OSV is a recognized church in Amsterdam and is supported by the Church of Satan (CoS). (More information pending.)" [Sanguinarious.org] goes back to Buffy porn (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	mpoetess 2004-11-29 09:01 pm UTC (link)
	spells link text wrong [sanguinarius.org] (Reply to this)(Parent)

	phosfate 2004-11-29 09:07 pm UTC (link)
	The OSV is a recognized church in Amsterdam and is supported by the Church of Satan (CoS). At least it's not some illegitimate fringe sect. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	jarofclay 2004-11-29 09:22 pm UTC (link)
	emerges from lurkerdom by spitting coffee (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2004-11-29 10:00 pm UTC (link)
	offers napkin (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	arabel 2004-11-29 11:15 pm UTC (link)
	folds napkin in weird shapes ... resists urge to make swan jokes (Reply to this)(Parent)

	nekoneko 2004-11-29 09:41 pm UTC (link)
	I thought witches/wiccans were in covens, not vampires. Aren't they supposed to be solitary creatures or something? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	phosfate 2004-11-29 10:00 pm UTC (link)
	Actual vampires - perhaps. People playing at being vampires - not so much. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	thebratqueen 2004-11-29 11:35 pm UTC (link)
	Anne Rice vocab calls a group of vampires a coven. I mean - the grand lord Lestat, who as we all know is real, proclaimed it to be such and we mere mortals are only following in the shadow of this great vampyre. Or something. (Reply to this)(Parent)

Buffy, Slayer of the VamPYRES

mpoetess
2004-11-29 08:53 pm UTC (link)

BLACK SWAN:
A non-vampyre lover or friend who does not feel the draw to become sanguine, but who is nevertheless favorably inclined towards
Vampyres. they may or may not frequent vampyre nightclubs and usually understand the vampyre-fetish/ lifestyle.

WHITE SWAN:
Someone who cannot tolerate the Vampyre lifestyle and proves antagonistic to the scene. In general, White swans are still
a part of the gothic or fetish scene, which often brings them into contact with the vampyre community despite their disgust
at our ways.

DONORS
Without those who offer themselves body and soul to us, we would be nothing. We cannot be other than what we are, but it is the donors who sustain our nature. For this service, they should be respected. Never mistreat your donors, physically or emotionally. They are not to be manipulated or leeched off for more than what they freely offer. Never take them for granted. Appreciate them for the companionship and acceptance which they offer us, which so many others would refuse. Above all, appreciate the gift their life. That communion is sacred. Never fail to treat it as such.

And so on.

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	Re: Buffy, Slayer of the VamPYRES krazycat 2004-11-30 04:08 pm UTC (link)
	That is just way too scary. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: Buffy, Slayer of the VamPYRES lots42 2004-12-02 04:33 am UTC (link)
	Damn, never thought I'd encounter a wuss vampire. I thought vampires just took what they wanted. "Don't mistreat your donor?" Christ. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	carlanime 2004-11-29 09:22 pm UTC (link)
	I know what a "donor" is, but I'm drawing a blank on "swans." So much for my vampire street cred, I guess.::snicker:: (Reply to this)

	shoiryu 2004-11-29 10:25 pm UTC (link)
	.....Jesus. (Reply to this)

	*tongue - in cheek* pyratejenni 2004-11-30 01:02 am UTC (link)
	I'm tempted to ask if this means they're not human, and therefore have no rights in the eyes of the law, which means they could be killed with impunity. Because for me vampires = Things That Should Be Made to Stay Dead, not Rilly Rilly Cool. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	Re: tongue - in cheek cairea 2004-11-30 06:24 am UTC (link)
	I rather like the way the assassin character in Villains By Necessity phrased it. "The living become dead -- that I'm used to. Not the other way around. I don't approve." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: tongue - in cheek panthea 2004-12-07 04:18 am UTC (link)
	Is that a book or a movie? 'Cause it sounds fun. :-D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: tongue - in cheek cairea 2004-12-07 06:25 am UTC (link)
	It's a very fun book by Eve Forward. Also sadly out of print, I believe. Sam, the assassin, is tied (amusingly enough, considering this wank) with Barbara Hambly's vampire character Simon Ysidro for favorite fantasy novel character ever. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: tongue - in cheek nekoneko 2004-12-01 02:34 am UTC (link)
	You're reminding me of Anita Blake. Please don't remind me of Anita Blake. Then it'll jump over to Merry Gentry and the scene with Frost--- fuck. My brain's there. goes to get some brain bleach (Reply to this)(Parent)

	atalantapendrag 2004-11-30 01:59 am UTC (link)
	Note to self- Avoid anyone who spells vampire with a y. (Reply to this)

ramlatch
2004-11-30 02:13 am UTC (link)

People who spell it with a y (and other types) always make me wonder if they haven't actually done their research on the folklore of vampirism. Because there's no way in hell I think anyone would willingly donate their blood to someone who looked the equivilent of a half rotted corpse. :P Additionally before Anne Rice, vampires were a pretty damn grotesque type of creature.

But noooooo all vampyres are beautiful Ricean* men with flowing herbal essenced hair and thick european accents, who wear nothing but velvet.

*gags*

* of the Anne Rice Pretty Boi breed.

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	pyratejenni 2004-11-30 02:17 am UTC (link)
	So the Thai (I think) vampire who is an excrement-eating disembodied head SP Somtow wrote about in "Vampire Junction" is right out for these guys, then? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	panthea 2004-12-07 04:19 am UTC (link)
	Isn't there some Malaysian legend about a vampire that's, like, a head with trailing intestines? 'Cause, SEXAY. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	kijikun 2004-11-30 05:26 am UTC (link)
	Actaully vampire pretty boys was around long before Anne Rice. She just made it worse. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	megmurry 2004-11-30 07:56 am UTC (link)
	See also: Stoker, I seem to recall Dracula being not at all displeasing to the eyes a good chunk of the time. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ree 2004-11-30 09:42 am UTC (link)
	I think it was Bela Lugosi who first made vampires sexy. I don't remember Dracula being quite so suave in the novel. goes to check (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ree 2004-11-30 09:47 am UTC (link)
	When Harker first sees Drac: "Within, stood a tall old man, clean shaven save for a long white moustache, and clad in black from head to foot, without a single speck of colour about him anywhere." Hardly studly. That's from the Project Gutenberg etext, which should be complete and unabridged. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	cpip 2004-11-30 10:43 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, but mustachioed old men just do it for me. Especially dressed all in black. ROWR, baby. (Reply to this)(Parent)