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Auntie Singe Addams ([info]singe) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2008-03-18 20:33:00
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LJ users are blackmailink us!
SUP ain't happy about the upcoming LJ boycott. (Happening March 21st. "No posts, no comments, no content.") Anyway...

Translated from the Russian: We'll show THEM!

"In this situation, where they attempt to blackmail and to intimidate us, threatening to destroy our business, there is a business-reason not to reward this behavior. This is not the simple reaction of being more resistant the more pressure is applied. The fact is that through history no successful enterprise runs by being subjugated by unfriendly forces. No change, even the most correct one, will not experience some resistance.

It would probably be best to reconsider the recent changes. But from our point of view it is now necessary to wait until after the boycott has faded. Let it pass and have the voices of protest fade. Then we can consider changing this policy."



ETA provided by Tunxeh: Evidently SUP had originally hired a prostitute to blackmail Brad. Talk about shady business. (Actual credibility pending.)

ETA II: Anti-semitism?!

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2008-03-19 02:39 am UTC (link)
Your html is broke.

And what a bunch of arseholes. And the fools will still remain.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2008-03-19 02:44 am UTC

[info]tunxeh
2008-03-19 02:54 am UTC (link)
They hired a prostitute for brad in order to blackmail him??!?! This is who's now running lj?

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(no subject) - [info]metallicar67, 2008-03-19 03:20 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]octavia, 2008-03-19 05:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tunxeh, 2008-03-19 06:39 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2008-03-20 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chaimonkey, 2008-03-21 03:02 am UTC

[info]randombastary
2008-03-19 03:19 am UTC (link)
o_O

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[info]kijikun
2008-03-19 03:24 am UTC (link)
Damnit LJ. I like having all my fandom shit in one place you prats.

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(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2008-03-19 04:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tunxeh, 2008-03-19 05:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2008-03-19 05:53 am UTC

[info]aristaea
2008-03-19 03:47 am UTC (link)
You know, I was just gonna sit back and not care about whatever LJ was doing, but now I'm kind of glad I hardly use LJ any more. It will make it less painful to quit.

Still, fuck them! Just for the spirit of the thing and whatever.

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[info]puipui
2008-03-19 04:11 am UTC (link)
Wow. They have a whole different kind of idea about how the free market works, don't they? I hadn't even heard of this boycott thingie before, and now I am so there.

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(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2008-03-19 04:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2008-03-19 11:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-03-20 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2008-03-20 12:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-03-20 02:04 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2008-03-22 01:09 am UTC

[info]highlander_ii
2008-03-19 04:59 am UTC (link)
I'm stuck at "there is a business-reason not to reward this behavior"

WTF are they talking about? Looking at your fuck up and reevaluating it because you've royally pissed off a majority of your customer base is NOT 'rewarding behavior', it's good business. When the customers tell you something is wrong, you don't turn up your nose and slap the customer in the face with a glove.

I thought they said they'd done research before they took over LJ? Apparently they missed the explosions for every time LJ fucked something up, huh?

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(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2008-03-19 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]highlander_ii, 2008-03-20 12:44 am UTC

[info]issendai
2008-03-19 05:03 am UTC (link)
Consider your customers to be the enemy and dig in your heels like a teenager who doesn't want to clean his room. Well done, SUP, you've mastered advanced business technique! That won't backfire on you at all.

Let's hope this asshole is a random staffer shooting his mouth off, not one of the people actually in charge. Otherwise... yeah, it may be time to give serious thought to leaving LJ.

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(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2008-03-19 05:15 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]issendai, 2008-03-19 05:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-03-19 02:37 pm UTC

[info]youngcurmudgeon
2008-03-19 05:05 am UTC (link)
All those "in Soviet Russia ..." jokes? They, uh, realize those are just jokes, right?

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(no subject) - [info]doomsday, 2008-03-19 05:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2008-03-19 07:44 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2008-03-19 05:18 am UTC (link)
The rational business response to a boycott is to dig in your heels?

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[info]notjo
2008-03-19 05:26 am UTC (link)
There's a boycott planned of LJ?

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2008-03-19 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2008-03-19 05:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2008-03-19 05:51 am UTC
'Quasi-organized' is the right expression. - [info]singe, 2008-03-19 06:12 am UTC
(no subject) - camilla, 2008-03-19 05:34 am UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2008-03-19 05:52 am UTC (link)
Before, I thought the boycott was ridiculous and a tad childish.

Now? March 21st, good bye LJ, hello actually doing my homework on time.

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(no subject) - [info]tephra, 2008-03-19 04:23 pm UTC
To make the boycott effective...
[info]issendai
2008-03-19 05:56 am UTC (link)
Not posting or commenting isn't enough. If you want to hit them in the purse, you need to do something that will affect their Google ad revenue, and not posting ain't it. As long as there are posts on LJ, Google has enough content to serve ads; Google doesn't care if the content is old or new, as long as it's on the page and there are eyes on it. To boycott effectively, we need to:

1. Not click the ads. At all. Ever. And get the word out--most of us are savvy enough to recognize the ads for what they are, but there are enough naive users out there to make it worth SUP's while to serve ads.

2. Not go to any LJ pages that have ads for the whole of March 21st. A small subset of Google ads pay by the impression, not the click, so causing the ad to be loaded onto a page is enough to net SUP a little cash. (Given the abysmal click rates for social sites, SUP is probably getting an extra-heavy dose of pay-per-impression ads served to LJ.)

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Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]eilisliana, 2008-03-19 06:06 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]issendai, 2008-03-19 06:15 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]moonjaguar, 2008-03-20 12:00 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]ashu, 2008-03-19 09:03 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]brennalarose, 2008-03-19 02:44 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]ashu, 2008-03-19 06:39 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]metallicar67, 2008-03-21 05:17 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]palefire, 2008-03-22 01:18 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]sneer, 2008-03-19 04:08 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]vergilsparda, 2008-03-19 07:49 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]bigbigtruck, 2008-03-19 09:23 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]tofuknight, 2008-03-19 09:30 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2008-03-19 11:47 pm UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]ickle_snowflake, 2008-03-20 10:34 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]palefire, 2008-03-22 01:26 am UTC
Re: To make the boycott effective... - [info]moonjaguar, 2008-03-20 12:07 am UTC

[info]sarajayechan
2008-03-19 05:59 am UTC (link)
On one hand, I agree with them because people have a history of being asses to LJ over everything. On the other hand? They wouldn't be "rewarding" people by responding to this behavior, because this behavior should indicate to them that people are very upset.

I sent them some stern, no-nonsense criticism. Not expecting my one comment to accomplish anything major, but it can't hurt!

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[info]emeralinedragon
2008-03-19 07:35 am UTC (link)
Darkrose has what appears to be a translation of the whole thing on her IJ.

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(no subject) - [info]vzg, 2008-03-19 08:01 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]weyrlady, 2008-03-21 09:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-03-19 02:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2008-03-22 01:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]etrangere, 2008-03-19 04:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2008-03-20 08:15 am UTC

[info]solar_type_star
2008-03-19 02:31 pm UTC (link)
"In this situation, where they attempt to blackmail and to intimidate us, threatening to destroy our business, there is a business-reason not to reward this behavior. This is not the simple reaction of being more resistant the more pressure is applied. The fact is that through history no successful enterprise runs by being subjugated by unfriendly forces. No change, even the most correct one, will not experience some resistance.


Wow. So the approach of SUP's chief business officer to LJ's user base is a mix of Sun Tzu's Art of War and totalitarian regime crowd-control.

There's not enough FAIL macros in the world.

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(no subject) - [info]jaythenerdkid, 2008-03-19 11:48 pm UTC

[info]brennalarose
2008-03-19 02:54 pm UTC (link)
The FAIL is strong in this one.

Think if LJ users whip out the torches and pitchforks, Nossik would get the message?

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[info]bof
2008-03-19 04:31 pm UTC (link)
Don't know about anybody else, but I just find it funny that the boycott takes place on Good Friday.

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(no subject) - [info]delcj, 2008-03-19 05:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bof, 2008-03-19 05:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]digigirl132, 2008-03-19 09:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bof, 2008-03-19 10:09 pm UTC

[info]ickle_snowflake
2008-03-19 08:30 pm UTC (link)
no successful enterprise runs by being subjugated by unfriendly forces

No successful enterprie runs by alienating their userbase either....

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(no subject) - [info]ickle_snowflake, 2008-03-19 08:31 pm UTC

[info]kuromitsu
2008-03-19 10:25 pm UTC (link)
It seems that the translation is not exactly accurate: http://furiosity.livejournal.com/472399.html

I don't speak Russian so I can't say which verion is more accurate, but I agree with furiosity that cultural differences are something most people don't take into account (which is understandable). I don't want to elaborate on my thoughts on yaoi cultural differences, but I agree with those commenters who say that the interview (even in the supposedly incorrect translation) sounds way less offensive and contemptuous to people who are used to this mentality. Me, I just shrugged even at the first translation. Yeah, he's quite ignorant about LJ, but he didn't come off as an asshat.

*cleans up*

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(no subject) - [info]bof, 2008-03-19 10:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sisterelwood, 2008-03-19 11:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tunxeh, 2008-03-20 01:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2008-03-20 02:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-03-20 02:16 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]penguinfaery, 2008-03-20 06:50 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-03-21 12:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]penguinfaery, 2008-03-21 01:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2008-03-21 03:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sgtgeorgecarter, 2008-03-20 04:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]solar_type_star, 2008-03-20 07:37 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2008-03-21 02:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]palefire, 2008-03-22 02:28 am UTC

[info]ladyofviolets
2008-03-20 11:08 pm UTC (link)
Apparently, some people are "supporting" the boycott for OTHER reasons than the original ones...

*head desk*

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(no subject) - [info]southerngaelic, 2008-03-21 12:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mistressrenet, 2008-03-21 12:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kuromitsu, 2008-03-21 01:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bof, 2008-03-21 12:34 pm UTC
Re: LJ users are blackmailink us!
[info]piranha
2008-03-21 04:29 am UTC (link)
if the comment about the prostitute is true (i agree, the credibility is very doubtful), it should be very easy to verify, since the commenter said that brad talked about it after the divorce.

i'm betting on "not".

and nossik wrote in his other journal (anton_nossik, not dolboeb) that his official title is "social media evangelist". i don't know what that actually translates to in normal business terms, but i almost peed my pants.

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Re: LJ users are blackmailink us! - [info]brennalarose, 2008-03-21 05:51 pm UTC

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