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Saint Fujur, Martyr ([info]luckdragonfujur) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2008-04-06 19:24:00


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Someone's bitter
I just got this. The entry in question is a comment on Chancery Stone's blog entry featured in her latest wank.

Dear LiveJournal user fujurpreux,

We have received a report, properly formatted under the provisions set forth by United States copyright law, that your entry located at http://fujurpreux.livejournal.com/286546.html contains material that violates the copyright of another. As such, we must ask that you please delete the entry and cease using the material on LiveJournal immediately. This must be done by 12:01 AM (EDT) on Thursday, April 10, 2008 in order to avoid further action being taken against your account.

If you feel that this report was issued in error or that your use of the material is enabled under one of the provisions set forth by United States law, you are allowed to file a counter-notification report. In the event that you chose to file a counter-notification report, please contact us for more information on how to do so under the provisions set forth by the United States law. Doing so indicates that you are willing to defend yourself in a United States court of law against a charge of copyright infringement and that you understand that you may face criminal and possibly federal charges.

Regards,
Zoe
LiveJournal Abuse Prevention Team


I feel e-famous nao :D

ETA I ended up deleting the entry. My LJ friends are more important than Ms. Stone. ;-; Buuuuuuuuuuut I copied it here.


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[info]ladyofviolets
2008-04-07 12:28 am UTC (link)
... wuttefuck.

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2008-04-07 01:12 am UTC (link)
Exactly.

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[info]loqia
2008-04-07 12:55 am UTC (link)
Fair use, comment and criticism. Natch.

Though I especially like properly formatted under the provisions set forth by United States copyright law. Like, nice way to be scared of e-lawyers there, LiveJournal. 'Proper formatting' does not equate to legal validity.

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2008-04-07 01:12 am UTC (link)
Yeah, it's really cute. I'd like to know what LJ is going to say about my "counter-claim". :D

Quoting and commenting is against the law, ppl!

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(no subject) - [info]demonbean, 2008-04-07 01:13 am UTC

[info]charmian
2008-04-07 01:13 am UTC (link)
IANAL, but I think LJ, in order to have safe harber under DMCA, needs to follow that procedure.

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(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 01:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2008-04-07 01:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 02:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 02:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2008-04-07 02:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 02:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2008-04-07 02:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]smashingstars, 2008-04-07 05:51 am UTC

[info]whimsy_chan
2008-04-07 01:26 am UTC (link)
IAalsoNAL, but I think charmian is right--LJ probably received a DMCA takedown notice.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2008-04-07 01:29 am UTC (link)
'Proper formatting' does not equate to legal validity.

This isn't LiveJournal being stupid; it's the law being stupid. People have been abusing the DMCA since it was implemented to silence critics because webhosts are required to take action when they receive a DMCA complaint regardless of whether or not they think the DMCA complaint is a pile of shit.

I thought that this was common knowledge by now?

You can bet that whoever in the Abuse team contacted luckdragonfujur had a bad taste in their mouth while doing it.

You can file a counter-claim in order to stop the process, but if you do so you have to be prepared for the crazy person to actually sue. That can get expensive even if you are in the right.

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(no subject) - [info]mmanurere, 2008-04-07 01:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-07 05:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 01:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ereshkigal, 2008-04-07 01:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2008-04-07 04:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fresco_le_raye, 2008-04-07 10:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladybirdsleeps, 2008-04-07 10:32 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 01:42 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]khym_chanur, 2008-04-07 03:26 am UTC

[info]khym_chanur
2008-04-07 03:27 am UTC (link)
Would it really qualify as fair use? There seems to be more quoted text than commentary.

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 03:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 03:44 am UTC

[info]tunxeh
2008-04-07 01:09 am UTC (link)
Time to back up your posts. Not that the request is a reasonable one, but I wouldn't trust LJ management to recognize that.

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2008-04-07 01:11 am UTC (link)
I do that regularly anyway. :) Thank you.

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[info]gunshou
2008-04-07 01:15 am UTC (link)
Wait, what? I'm not sure how incoherent ramblings declaring a vitriolic vendetta could be copyrighted. You didn't post excerpts from the book, did you? Or is it that she doesn't want anyone swiping the literary gold that is her mixed metaphors?

o.O

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[info]luckdragonfujur
2008-04-07 01:17 am UTC (link)
No, I just quoted bits from the post. :D

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(no subject) - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-04-07 04:45 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 04:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]danceswithelvis, 2008-04-07 04:51 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 04:54 am UTC

[info]loqia
2008-04-07 01:26 am UTC (link)
I think strictly speaking the post is "published material", therefore subject to copyright.

Still, she's got zero legal standing for any kind of infringement; she's just taking advantage of LJ's capitulating "let's not piss off anyone with money" stance on copyright.

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[info]criticalcricket
2008-04-07 01:25 am UTC (link)
Well isn't that special. Looks like someone's never heard of fair use. *shakes head* Next think you know you'll be getting creepy phone calls in the night threatening to kill you with an ax if you don't take it down.

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[info]caffeine_fairy
2008-04-07 04:03 pm UTC (link)
But her head will be ever so sorrowful about it.

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[info]fools_game
2008-04-07 01:34 am UTC (link)
WHUT.

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[info]herongale
2008-04-07 01:37 am UTC (link)
So what are you going to do? *curious*

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 01:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2008-04-07 02:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]charmian, 2008-04-07 02:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]herongale, 2008-04-07 04:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-07 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2008-04-07 06:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-04-07 12:46 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pastri_archy, 2008-04-07 02:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2008-04-07 09:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pastri_archy, 2008-04-07 10:39 pm UTC

[info]luthe
2008-04-07 01:48 am UTC (link)
Replace the LJ post with a link to the same post on JF. If she sends JF a takedown notice, I think she'll get laughed at.

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 01:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loqia, 2008-04-07 03:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]agent_hyatt, 2008-04-07 04:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarp, 2008-04-07 06:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]snarp, 2008-04-07 06:08 pm UTC

[info]sidewinder
2008-04-07 01:58 am UTC (link)
After following your link I mostly went WHUT I MUST HEAR JOHN BARROWMAN DO THAT SONG YES PLZ?!

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sidewinder, 2008-04-07 02:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-04-07 03:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]brennalarose, 2008-04-07 03:12 pm UTC

[info]pastri_archy
2008-04-07 02:16 am UTC (link)
XD The video posted in the comments made me LOL.

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[info]aristaea
2008-04-07 03:31 am UTC (link)
So, should anyone desire to read DANNY for mocking srs literary criticism, Google Books has archived it.

No one tell Chancery or she'll sue them!!! :O

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(no subject) - [info]kalicephirot, 2008-04-07 05:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2008-04-07 05:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-07 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aristaea, 2008-04-07 06:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-07 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2008-04-07 10:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-07 04:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]notjo, 2008-04-07 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-08 08:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kalloway, 2008-04-12 02:26 pm UTC

[info]msilverstar
2008-04-07 05:15 am UTC (link)
LJ was doing the safe thing. But the example you post sure looks like Fair Use to me (IANAL). Please contact the JF [info]system and warn them what may be coming to them, and if you get DMCAed here, there may be a lawyer would would like to make their name defending you. The Electronic Frontier Foundation should be your next stop!

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(no subject) - [info]threegoldfish, 2008-04-07 01:04 pm UTC

[info]mpoetess
2008-04-07 06:11 am UTC (link)
Hunh. Interestingly, Ms. Stone has removed the allegedly-infringed entry from her blog. And the ones that followed it and went into even more detail about her legal endeavors.

I wonder if it was in reaction to the DMCA issue, or caused it. (I.e. perhaps someone gave her what would seem to be common-sense legal advice of "Don't post publicly about the details of your plans to sue people; you should remove those entries" and then oops, look, someone's quoted them elsewhere.)

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(no subject) - [info]luckdragonfujur, 2008-04-07 06:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2008-04-07 10:05 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2008-04-07 12:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2008-04-07 04:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mpoetess, 2008-04-07 04:13 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]caffeine_fairy, 2008-04-07 05:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2008-04-07 05:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]cmdr_zoom, 2008-04-07 07:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]white_serpent, 2008-04-07 07:46 pm UTC

[info]qem_chibati
2008-04-07 09:31 am UTC (link)
Be careful, if you just give up, three times LJ may choose to suspend your journal anyway.

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[info]comixology
2008-04-07 02:34 pm UTC (link)
xD I'm sorry, y'all, but every time I read "IANAL" all I can think is "I Anal", and that just brings this quite useful and informative discussion to a new level of hilarity. ♥

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(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-07 04:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]fresco_le_raye, 2008-04-07 10:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]evilsqueakers, 2008-04-08 08:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]gunshou, 2008-04-07 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]catslash, 2008-04-08 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tree, 2008-04-10 11:27 pm UTC

 
   
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