(Post a new comment)

	makeshyft 2008-10-07 07:29 am UTC (link)
	And the comic that introduced me to this scary lil' upcoming event... http://www.shortpacked.com/index.html (Reply to this)

	sparkysrevenge 2008-10-07 07:58 am UTC (link)
	I'm gonna go all Anakin on you for a moment here. Please ignore. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Um. Yeah. First of all, Dick Grayson? Seriously, who wants to hear about Robin besides Robin fans? And he's not even Robin or Nightwing. Just... DJ Grayson. (Reply to this)(Thread)

makeshyft
2008-10-07 08:18 am UTC (link)

BUT YOU WERE THE CHOSEN ON.. Er, nevahmind.

But yeah, while I'm sure there's some great elephant poop stories in Dick's childhood. It's really not very noteworthy without the yellow man-panties.

Now gimme a vintage Doom patrol series. Or a Young Indy Adventures style look at Bruce Wayne's pre-bat globehopping, and that would get me on the couch every week like clockwork.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sparkysrevenge 2008-10-07 11:13 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, I would love a Young Indiana Jones style Batman. Looooooove. I would be all over that. Also, why can't they do something original, like make a show from the origin of the villain? (Reply to this)(Parent)

innocentsmith
2008-10-09 10:01 pm UTC (link)

Or a Young Indy Adventures style look at Bruce Wayne's pre-bat globehopping

Wasn't this Jeph Loeb's original pitch to the people who ended up making Smallville? "Gotham City," starring Young Bruce Wayne?

I've been daydreaming about how awesome that would've been for about eight years now. Selina Kyle, a teen in the foster system! Harvey Dent, the up-and-coming young lawyer! Pamela Isley, budding scientist! Etc.!

[/pipedream]

(Reply to this)(Parent)

	dawnswalker 2008-10-07 08:19 am UTC (link)
	Well, most people who don't really follow DC Comics pretty much only know Dick Grayson, so that part is kind of understandable. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sparkysrevenge 2008-10-07 11:15 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe they only know Dick Grayson as Robin, but I still wouldn't watch a tv show about Dick Grayson. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rotten_fish 2008-10-07 04:37 pm UTC (link)
	Seriously, who wants to hear about Robin besides Robin fans? This. He doesn't even have powers - will he fight crime or just hang out with carnies? I mean, a show about carnies could probably be totally awesome, but... Robin? Him? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ru_debega
2008-10-07 04:54 pm UTC (link)

For real! The reason Smallville works is because Superman was always Superman, even before he worked out the self-congratulatory name. But Robin wasn't Robin until he met Batman. There's simply nothing special about a young Dick Grayson. A show about a kid in the circus would be pretty awesome, agreed, but it seems like they're really straining to work in the comic-book angle because Gosh-gee-golly, them pichur books are real cash cows!

Let's cross our fingers and hope it goes the way of Aquaman.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rotten_fish 2008-10-07 05:03 pm UTC (link)
	but it seems like they're really straining to work in the comic-book angle because Gosh-gee-golly, them pichur books are real cash cows! Yessss, totally. Like they're hoping that it will just have a built-in audience. :\ I'd almost say, "oh hey, you could do a show about babs as bat girl!" and then I remember Birds of Prey. :\| (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ru_debega 2008-10-07 07:44 pm UTC (link)
	Dang, I just googled Birds of Prey. How did I miss THAT little outing? Was it at all redeemable or was it a giant pile? Inquiring minds want to know. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	makeshyft 2008-10-07 07:51 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, it had it's downpoints.. and a LOT of them. But I'm still convinced they had the best damn Babs short of a Gail Simone story. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	sparkysrevenge 2008-10-07 11:10 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, it was a giant pile. A very giant pile. Mostly thanks to Huntress. God, I hated her. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	evilsqueakers 2008-10-08 01:05 am UTC (link)
	whispers something about owning the series because she mostly liked Babs and the actress who played her It sure as hell wasn't Canary or Huntress. shudders Ashley Scott in a leading role. That will never go well. But I liked the show's darker settings, less "happy happy joy joy." And it was, at least, not an edgy remake. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	aerobot 2008-10-08 07:02 am UTC (link)
	They did an Aquaman series? ... Am I the only one who thinks that sounds pretty sweet, as long as they base it on the JCU Aquaman? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

ru_debega
2008-10-08 03:25 pm UTC (link)

They did a pilot for a Smallville-esque treatment of Aquaman, which failed miserably and wound up (thankfully) not getting optioned for series. The pilot ep, however, was made available for download on iTunes not too-too long ago, and I'm sure if you google around you can find a streaming version of it. I warn you, though, Aquaman as a doofy, vapid, surfer-teen is pretty painful.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aerobot 2008-10-09 02:19 am UTC (link)
	Oh man, I just to read the WORDS 'vapid surfer teen' to be too scared to look. D: (Reply to this)(Parent)

	hallidae 2008-10-08 07:38 pm UTC (link)
	You just gave me very happy thoughts of the DCAU Aquaman having his own cartoon. Gar adventures under the sea, where he can continue to use whales to beat the shit out of stupid villains. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aerobot 2008-10-09 02:18 am UTC (link)
	AND MORE DEADPAN SNARKING. YES. :D (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

hallidae
2008-10-09 03:21 am UTC (link)

God, I remember it so clearly. I'd been out of the loop on DC comics for awhile, and most of my geeky buddies just liked the cartoon. So about twenty of us were in the student lounge, watching, when the second episode of his first appearance came on. Cue murmurs of "When did Aquaman become a badass?" Then came the scene where he hacked his hand off to save his kid. Jaws fucking dropped, I swear. "Holy shit. Can they do that?" It was awesome.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

aerobot
2008-10-10 03:12 am UTC (link)

I KNOW. He hacked his hand off with a DAGGER and then wrapped the stump with his own BABY'S BLANKET. JESUS CHRIST, THAT IS THE EPITOME OF HARDCORE. A series based around a guy that fucking awesome would be the best show EVER.

That does sound awesome. I had no one with me to appreciate the sheer levels in badass he took in that episode.

*goes to youtube to see if she can find it*

(Reply to this)(Parent)

	sparkysrevenge 2008-10-07 11:16 pm UTC (link)
	I mean, hey, if it includes Bruce Wayne, maybe, but oh. Right. BATMAN. Sdfsidfhsdhfisdf. I hate this idea. Hate. (Reply to this)(Parent)

annabelle_lee
2008-10-07 05:48 pm UTC (link)

Ahahahahahah, I actually shouted out what you typed when I first saw the article. Scared the living shit out of the cat too.

Also, I agree with you on the 'who wants to hear about Robin' part. Okay, so this might be interesting for all of two episodes, but there's no way in hell it'll last a full season. I mean, it's CW, home of every epically failing show ever and a small few that don't quite suck.

(Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	dawnswalker 2008-10-08 12:42 am UTC (link)
	I foresee a lot of episodes where Bruce Wayne, Commissioner Gordon, and Harvey Dent just randomly show up at the circus to say foreshadowy things about Gotham needing a Saviour, and that Saviour needing a Sidekick. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	beckyh2112 2008-10-07 09:43 pm UTC (link)
	A friend wound up brainstorming about a pre-Robin-based series following Tim Drake, which sounds infinitely cooler than anything I can imagine them doing with Dick Grayson pre-Robin. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	aerobot 2008-10-08 04:21 am UTC (link)
	Wow, that DOES sound a million times cooler. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	mercorir 2008-10-07 08:27 am UTC (link)
	I read the article, but I'm still not sure what the series is about. Is he even in the circus in this one? (Reply to this)

	silrana 2008-10-07 02:23 pm UTC (link)
	Wait... they want us to watch a bunch of characters we know are supposed to get killed later on? Ouch? (Reply to this)(Thread)

	ru_debega 2008-10-07 11:27 pm UTC (link)
	Ooh, good point. We know what happens to Dick's parents later. Anyone wanna take bets on how many not-so-oblique references they make to "not always being there for him"? (Reply to this)(Parent)

	aerobot 2008-10-08 04:19 am UTC (link)
	Yeah. Sometimes that can be done to good effect, but I doubt these people will do anything but ham it up. Like, oh, in an effort to make up his dad promises to take Dick to his favorite rock concert, but only after this next performance ...! Gag. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	veleda_k 2008-10-07 04:28 pm UTC (link)
	So, basically... it's about a bunch of people in a circus. That has the potential for an interesting show, but I don't see what it has to do with Dick Grayson. How was he anything special before he started fighting crime with Batman? At least Clark Kent has superpowers that can lead to wacky hijinks. (Reply to this)

	rotten_fish 2008-10-07 04:33 pm UTC (link)
	In the one-hour "Graysons," which will be set in modern times, young DJ will face challenges involving first loves, young rivals and his family as he grows up. Souders and Peterson have come up with an original take on the character. THAT IS NOT A PLOT. Ugh, what a waste of a tv show. (Reply to this)

	bravest_spinja 2008-10-07 10:05 pm UTC (link)
	Dick Grayson before he became Robin isn't exactly a built-in long-runner. (Reply to this)

	janegraddell 2008-10-07 10:12 pm UTC (link)
	Next, we can likely expect a retake on classic westerns about a poor, disfigured farmer's son who whines and mopes for seven years without ever becoming a badass bounty hunter. To The Fray songs no less. Don't scare me like that! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	makeshyft 2008-10-07 11:33 pm UTC (link)
	Now, you know you want the emo!Hex. There'd be a rail-thin hooker with a heart of gold. Bat Lash as the cocky woman-chasing best friend. And someone waaaaaaaaay too white playing El Diablo. You know you want it.. and it's only a matter of time. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	sabinelagrande 2008-10-12 09:20 am UTC (link)
	...Your icon is a thing of joy and beauty. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	churri 2008-10-08 01:10 am UTC (link)
	But Dick was like twelve when his parents died. Isn't twelve a little young for the CW's target demographic? The only way I could see something like this working if it's set after Bruce has taken Dick in but before Dick's officially become Robin, but it doesn't sound like this is going to be doing that. sigh. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	aerobot 2008-10-08 04:16 am UTC (link)
	Depends, I think. Some continuity has him as a kid, some have him a little older. And I doubt these guys even care about continuity anyway. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	pfeffermuse 2008-10-08 01:47 am UTC (link)
	So, Dick Grayson before Robin is Circus Boy? (Reply to this)

	atreyu 2008-10-08 03:51 am UTC (link)
	Oh my God, I didn't realize Shortpacked was serious about that. DDDD: (Reply to this)(Thread)

	jeanne 2008-10-08 03:57 am UTC (link)
	Inorite? I read Shortpacked and was amused at it, and then five minutes later I found out from scansdaily that it was true. D: (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	atreyu 2008-10-08 04:00 am UTC (link)
	Man, I was like 'Ha haa, that'll never happen.' WHY, UNIVERSE. WHY DO YOU DO THIS TO ME? (Reply to this)(Parent)

aerobot
2008-10-08 04:12 am UTC (link)

Like others have said, there's no PLOT to this. In Smallville, its about Clark growing up and learning valuable things on his way to finally become Superman. Clark CHOSE to be Superman. Dick became Robin only after a tragic event. So basically, it's a life of a normal carnie kid before he gets utterly screwed over and thusly becomes a crime fighter.

Wow, that's just as riveting as a series about a young Bruce Wayne before his parents are killed. Sure, you might see a few neat things here and there, but not enough for a whole SERIES. There's a reason why the comics only glimpsed into this period through a few comics or flashbacks.

Dammit, if you wanna do a comic-book series so bad, there's BILLIONS of characters to choose from. Use those!

(Reply to this)

	mael 2008-10-08 11:41 pm UTC (link)
	I have been steadfastly ignoring this since I read that article. Dick is my favorite, FAVORITEST character in comics. That means I'm going to be compelled to watch at least one episode of this crap. And that makes me want to cry. (Reply to this)

	sabinelagrande 2008-10-12 09:17 am UTC (link)
	Late to the party, but, damn, when will they put Smallville out of its misery? Please to not drag it out for another season. If we have to suffer through a season of DJ (WTF) Grayson, at least let it be the bullet that finally takes that lumbering mass of fail and lose out of the world. It's like watching your grandpa wet himself, at this point. (Reply to this)