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Mac Attack ([info]insanitys_place) wrote in [info]fandom_lounge,
@ 2008-12-04 17:03:00
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RDR gets smart. I think we can now safely say that Lexicongate is finally over... to everyone's relief and satisfaction.

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[info]sparkysrevenge
2008-12-04 10:04 pm UTC (link)
HALLELUJAH!

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[info]napalmnacey
2008-12-04 10:18 pm UTC (link)
It's a Christmas Miracle!!!

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[info]plazmah
2008-12-04 10:43 pm UTC (link)
You mean a Festivus miracle!

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[info]cleolinda
2008-12-04 10:46 pm UTC (link)
Maybe I should have given up posting a lot sooner...?

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[info]phosfate
2008-12-04 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Now, now...this doesn't prevent him from doing even stupider things in the future.

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[info]agent_hyatt
2008-12-05 01:05 am UTC (link)
And even if he never does or says anything stupid again, that doesn't mean his supporters won't. Anybody have links to them hailing the recent victory?

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[info]mariem_1
2008-12-05 04:01 am UTC (link)
And even if he never does or says anything stupid again, that doesn't mean his supporters won't. Anybody have links to them hailing the recent victory?

Sure. Rattlesnakeroot's Party!!! The Harry Potter Lexicon Book to be Published. Pay attention to the titles of the songs. And there are comments:

lemon_ashwinder wrote:

Love the Dance Party!
Fnatastic news! Awesome, amazing… WOO HOO!

It's all the sweeter since it seems there are some mean-spirited weiners out there who'll cling to their delusions about the Lexicon until the end of days, but… HA HA!

lunas_ceiling wrote:

Wow, your song selection is absolutely stellar. Tom Jones has been my favorite forever, I have a friend who is in his regular band. This band was very cool and I never saw this video before. Is there a certain element at Leaky that is unbelievable - Oh Yeah! How can people be so heartless? Easy when they sit in Borgin and Burkes googling with some wretched hand of glory all the evil crap they can find while waiting for their Dark Mark to burn. But you nailed it "What goes around comes around."

But now the time has come when we can Ignore the Idiots and start Dancing in the Streets. I guess we'll be getting details on the book tomorrow, sweet. What an amazing day, even if there was a slight detour down Knockturn Alley. Tomorrow is going to be even better.

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[info]wolfsamurai
2008-12-05 05:21 am UTC (link)
Part of me doesn't want to believe that those people can be so deluded. I mean, they lose initially and by withdrawing the appeal they imply that they think they'll lose again and yet these idiots are celebrating like they won and stuck it to 'em?

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[info]mariem_1
2008-12-05 07:54 am UTC (link)
Inorite? I always knew that RSR/SIP and her buddies were dumb as dirt, but this takes the cake. People on Leaky Lounge Lawsuit Thread have nailed it:

davidenglish

I must say I had a good laugh looking at SIP's website. She's decided this is a victory for RDR Books and SVA. Hmmmm. Curious. RDR loses the lawsuit, drops the appeal, and will publish a completely rewritten companion book bearing the title Lexicon in the hopes of paying down its huge legal bills, and it's somehow a Win for SVA? I must be missing something.

dresdenfiles.fan

Lose the case on all counts; Plunk down $450 for filing a notice of a appeal that will never be because they conceded defeat and rewrote the blamed thing (as they should have done ages and ages ago) so that it doesn't blatantly plagiphrase or slavishly copy JKs intellectual property; yet somehow that is a 'win'?

Hmmm, me thinks Emerson's infamous "word of the day" applies to that line of reasoning.

cbm

How could anyone with call this a victory for RDR? What did they win?

This is a victory for JK Rowling as she won in a number of areas. An infringing book was never published and her intellectual property was protected. The world now knows the lengths she will go to protect her property. I think it will be some time before someone else tries this.

Steve Vander Ark and RDR are finally doing something they could have done on October 30, 2007, print a non-infringing book. It would have saved an incredible amount of time and effort. And as a bonus, we would have never even known there was a problem. This was a mess they brought on themselves through many miscalculations. A win for them, I do not thing so.

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[info]kuromitsu
2008-12-05 10:17 am UTC (link)
Bah! Everyone knows that RDR may have lost the war but the moral victory is theirs - they put on a brave fight against the evil greedy bitch and her multicorporation ally and showed the world that there is a way!!

...or something. My head hurts when I try to think like idiots.

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[info]wolfsamurai
2008-12-05 10:25 am UTC (link)
Yeah, those people at Leaky gotten to the heart of the matter pretty clearly. I am honestly just completely boggled at the power of wishful thinking from the rabid SVA/RDR fans though. I don't just say that. I'm sitting here shaking my head in stunned amazement. Them sitting over there gloating in delusional vindication and mocking those who supported the ~actual~ winners just... it makes my head hurt because it makes no fucking sense.

Yes, a Lexicon book will come out, so I suppose in one sense they and SVA/RDR get what they always wanted, but c'mon now. They can spin it how they want, but the Lexicon came out by far the worse for this little fracas. For as much additional publicity outside the main fandom that they generated through this trial, you can bet that they soured a lot more of the core HP fanbase that would have been more inclined to buy the published Lexicon in the first place.

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[info]cleolinda
2008-12-05 02:30 pm UTC (link)
I don't know; I find it kind of charming. I wish I had that kind of diehard optimism.

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[info]wallflower
2008-12-05 05:53 am UTC (link)
Whaaaaaaaat.

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[info]demonoflight
2008-12-04 11:45 pm UTC (link)
Gee, I'm almost disappointed.

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[info]_goblin_
2008-12-04 11:51 pm UTC (link)
This. No Schadenfreude Pie for Christmas? :-(

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[info]mer1973
2008-12-05 03:25 am UTC (link)
It's the end of an era really.

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[info]fallingmallorn
2008-12-04 11:54 pm UTC (link)
*sun breaks through the clouds*

"Hopeful Optimism?"

JKR: PWNED, BITCHES.

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[info]reeve
2008-12-04 11:59 pm UTC (link)
Common sense has prevailed. Wow.

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[info]deliciouschaos
2008-12-05 12:16 am UTC (link)
Party time!

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[info]platedlizard
2008-12-05 12:22 am UTC (link)
FINALLY!

Nice to see they finally grew a brain stem.

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[info]finchbird
2008-12-05 12:27 am UTC (link)
I'm actually kind of disappointed by this turn of events, unless the RDR/SVA supporters wank about this decision. *hopes they do*

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[info]jkefka
2008-12-05 01:05 am UTC (link)
Ding-dong, the witch wank is dead!

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[info]kadath
2008-12-05 01:17 am UTC (link)
I strongly suspect it's less "RDR gets smart" and more "RDR's lawyers hint at just how much they're going to charge and explain that they're going to lose anyway."

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[info]scifantasy
2008-12-05 01:25 am UTC (link)
Indeed.

(Nice icon. Jack McNemonic?)

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[info]peachespig
2008-12-05 01:27 am UTC (link)
Wow, good old Roger Rapoport must have finally exorcized Lawrence Lessig and sent him howling back to Stanford! This is clearly what's in RDR's best interests at this point, not being someone else's ideological guinea pig, and I'm glad they figured that out.

Odds the book actually gets rewritten and released? And if RDR tells SVA he's got to redo it, does Steve have a choice in the matter?

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[info]wolfsamurai
2008-12-05 03:10 am UTC (link)
I honestly do wonder how much the appeal had to do with the Stanford loonies and how much it was RDR.

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[info]phosfate
2008-12-05 02:37 pm UTC (link)
Depends on what's in their contract. Common sense says no, but the RDR train is pulling into Denver, while common sense is still black on the platform in Lincoln with its wheelie bag, saying, "Guys? Guys...?" and fending off hobos.

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[info]the_sun_is_up
2008-12-05 01:45 am UTC (link)
*pours Cleo a drink*

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[info]aerobot
2008-12-05 02:03 am UTC (link)
It's like they visited the Wizard of Oz and finally got a brain! Hurray! :D

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[info]singe
2008-12-05 03:30 am UTC (link)
No, I sense further shenanigans will be popping up.

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[info]drakyndra
2008-12-05 06:47 am UTC (link)
You know, I'm almost disappointed, this wank was a thing of glory.

But yeah, I'm pretty certain someone pointed out that an appeal might have been great by a "sticking to your principles" note, but not so much on a actually winning level.

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[info]kuromitsu
2008-12-05 10:19 am UTC (link)
So, has Stanford commented yet? I wonder whether they'll either rant about how this is a fatal blow to free speech and signals the end of the world, or keep suspiciously silent about the whole thing.

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[info]pathology_doc
2008-12-05 11:56 am UTC (link)
Somehow I think it's not quite over yet.

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[info]southerngaelic
2008-12-05 12:58 pm UTC (link)
*throws confetti and brings out the pre-Christmas whiskey*

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[info]mariem_1
2008-12-05 01:06 pm UTC (link)
Publisher will issue Harry Potter 'Lexicon'

Cutlerville native pens second Potter reference

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[info]yoritomo_reiko
2008-12-05 09:09 pm UTC (link)
Ah, so that second one is the one that Rowling made the comment about. Huh. Still wouldn't buy either one of them.

I LOVE this part of the first article, though:

"We think it's a better book in many ways because it has a lot more analysis," said Roger D. Rapaport of Muskegon, whose RDR Books is publishing The Lexicon. "He's done an amazing amount of new work."

No kidding. Really? The book's better for having more analysis and new work? You don't say.

And they wonder why WB and JKR went after them.

I am kind of annoyed that the articles seem to say that Rowling's main problem with the book was that it would take market away from her planned encyclopedia of Harry Potter. Which I don't remember her ever saying except maybe as a side note.

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[info]talec
2008-12-06 04:18 am UTC (link)
They... they broke their own law?

Or are they setting up a Xanatos Gambit?

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