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	sarracenia 2008-12-08 09:17 pm UTC (link)
	I am appalled at how few of these I've read. Although considering the ones I've heard about and not bothered to read coughGoreanscough, I can't say I'm optimistic for the quality of the others. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	pariforma 2008-12-08 09:20 pm UTC (link)
	I'm surprised that there are some I haven't heard of, like the last one on the page. The Kushiel books are kink but not sf, more alternate history posing as fantasy. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	kadath 2008-12-08 09:31 pm UTC (link)
	I can't say I'm optimistic for the quality of the others. Saturn's Children was explicitly written as mockery of/homage to late-career Heinlein...so, um, make of that what you will. Lilith's Brood is excellent. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	julesnoctambule 2008-12-08 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	I haven't read any of them. I'm not entirely convinced I'm missing out on a lot, though. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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crysiana
2008-12-09 03:38 am UTC (link)

Belatedly adding to the comments that Octavia Butler's books are excellent and, unlike most of those on the list, aren't about alien sex but about...well, colonialism and what it means to be human. ...and in the first book of the series there isn't any sex at ALL, which makes their inclusion baffling to me. (Not because sex=bad but because the others...sort of focus on sex.)

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	sistercoyote 2008-12-08 09:18 pm UTC (link)
	Noooooooooooo! Waugh! (I read all three books, and, SRSLY, if you want for animal-on-person kink...well, I can't think of anything mainstream, but there must be something better out there.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

	pariforma 2008-12-08 09:21 pm UTC (link)
	I work in a library, and I'm scared just knowing that Touched by Venom is in the building... lurking.... The first three, well, especially the first two Kushiel books I recommend for purple prose, costumes, and kinky sex. If you don't mind your characters being on the run a lot. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	m_butterfly 2008-12-09 11:43 pm UTC (link)
	Storm Constantine, maybe? It's a background note in Richard Adam's Maia, but technically that goat was also a god. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	seiberwing 2008-12-08 09:24 pm UTC (link)
	The extraterrestrial sex book sounds like something I'd ~~write~~ want to read. Cool. (Reply to this)

	sepiamagpie 2008-12-08 11:15 pm UTC (link)
	What's with all the incest? (Reply to this)

	miraba 2008-12-08 11:32 pm UTC (link)
	Cecilia Tan (The Velderet) is also a rather prolific HP fanfic writer (Harry, Draco, Snape, and/or Lucius) in her spare time. Anything over 100 words has porn in it somewhere. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	undomielregina 2008-12-09 04:43 pm UTC (link)
	Huh. I've actually read Fetish Fantastic, the SF/F kink anthology her press prints (found it in the stacks at a major university's library of all places) and it was pretty good. I'll have to go looking for her fic, I guess. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	chibikaijuu 2008-12-11 05:28 am UTC (link)
	Whoa, really? I've read some of her original stuff, I didn't know she did fic. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	xero_sky 2008-12-09 12:06 am UTC (link)
	Oh, Gor. They are some of the least erotic books ever written, and yet they've still managed to spawn a fandom so creepy I wouldn't touch it even to mock it. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	paladin 2008-12-09 01:16 am UTC (link)
	Agreed. The closest I'll come to the Gorean fandom is reading Housplant of Gor. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	velvet_mace 2008-12-09 01:52 am UTC (link)
	You obviously aren't a guy who can't get a date unless rape is legal and the girl's already chained up in a public square. The fantasy isn't nearly as appealing from the female point of view. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

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	erototoxin 2008-12-09 03:04 am UTC (link)
	Gor! My sisters and I got them all from a local used paperback exchange, and read them all one summer when I was in middle school. Perfectly awful, and yet I do have some nostalgia for them. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	undomielregina 2008-12-09 07:35 am UTC (link)
	The fandom is basically the furries of the BDSM community, which I think says it all. It seems to go hand in hand with the particular brand of batshit that can't deal with being different -- so they generalize and claim that female supremacy is the natural order and everyone else is Doing It Wrong. In conclusion, lol Gor (Reply to this)(Parent)

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	velvet_mace 2008-12-09 01:48 am UTC (link)
	Wait, tentacles and mind control? I would have been happy with just one! (Reply to this)

	mmanurere 2008-12-09 01:50 am UTC (link)
	Needs moar Samuel Delany. Dhalgren, Stars in My Pocket..., the whole Return to Nevèrÿon series, Trouble on Triton, maybe even Phallos if you count alternate-history as fantasy. (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	demonbean 2008-12-09 04:28 am UTC (link)
	Kinky scifi? Fantastic! Tell me it isn't as bad as the online stuff ... (Reply to this)

neon_umbra
2008-12-09 06:28 am UTC (link)

YES!
I went linkie-click with my fingers crossed.

The Venom Cock! *kermitflail* Yaaaaay! (Touched by Venom)

A year ago I tried to make Touched By Venom the Musical but...
Well.. we couldn't do live action. No one hates themselves that much
And then animating it.. while possible.. caused it to die like peed upon pods (Touched by Venom reference) due to lack of voice actresses. Finding the right level of camp ain't easy. But whenever I see Ms, Cross's name.. I squee. The book is so bad it's bad.. but shared with friends, it's a cult classic.

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	staroverthebay 2008-12-09 07:26 am UTC (link)
	Hey, where the fuck is Storm Constantine? Oh, wait. Those are Sci-Fi, not Fantasy. Still... Wraethu or whatever it's called isn't pure fantasy, is it? trying to block that stuff out of mine (Reply to this)(Thread)

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	anonyrat 2008-12-09 05:49 pm UTC (link)
	Needs more tentacles. (Reply to this)

	ymfaery 2008-12-10 08:02 pm UTC (link)
	.................... A book by one of my former English professors is on that list. I'm not sure I want to go O_o or XD. (Reply to this)