I've been through 16 pages now, for some masochistic reason, sigh. And I think we're at crosspurposes, sorry, but what I meant was no one there is revelling in people losing their jobs (well, I left a few threads alone, but hopefully some total asshats don't define the whole); I have some sympathy for the argument that it wasn't shitty of SUP to not give severance, though, because of the legal argument and the current times. I don't like the way it was addressed by those folks (the baaawwwers are morons), and I don't agree that it actually was the right thing for SUP to do, but it's a pretty reasonable argument on some fronts.