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	iamnotyourmuse 2009-07-03 04:03 pm UTC (link)
	Adding on to my comment above: For a larger fandom, like, say, Harry Potter, the definition of "kicked out of fandom" might refer more to a particular corner of said fandom, like a couple of similarly themed LJ communities or the like. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	bigbigtruck 2009-07-03 04:11 pm UTC (link)
	So, for example, getting banned from multiple Sirius/Remus communities and forums? That makes sense. I guess it's just that fandom, even fandom surrounding one particular work, is something so nebulous that actual expulsion seems impossible. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iamnotyourmuse 2009-07-03 04:21 pm UTC (link)
	The size of the fandom and number of places with an active audience really seems key to me. The bigger the fandom, the more likely you'll be able to find somewhere else to play, so long as you haven't had the same thing happen in other corners. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

evilsqueakers
2009-07-03 06:43 pm UTC (link)

Exactly. Like if you're ostracized on all the major Sirius/Remus LJ comms and that's what and where you contribute, you're kinda out of the fandom because it's worth the effort to maintain contact. Or if you piss off the wrong person who holds serious grudges, you're screwed too.

I was mostly run out on the rails of Buffy femmeslash because I apparently pissed off one of my flisters who happened to be in that core group of writers. After having most mutual people ignore me, I figured out I wasn't invited anymore. So I left and started in another one entirely (HP). I've kept a few people, though, from that Buffy kerfluffle. One especially listened to more my side than the other because of personal interactions. So it definitely depends on how you're treated by those you've built a community with.

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	zing_och 2009-07-04 07:06 am UTC (link)
	That's probably much more common than people getting banned from all over the place. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	evilsqueakers 2009-07-04 08:24 am UTC (link)
	Well, the problem with my situation was the fact they also ran the Buffy's Writer Guild. So that effectively cut me out of the entire circle. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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mmanurere
2009-07-03 07:17 pm UTC (link)

Precisely because "fandom" is so nebulous, there are often a number of different social circles in any given fandom which consider themselves "the center of the fandom" or "the main part of the fandom". When a member of one of those cliques, then, starts making enemies, they may see themselves as having been "kicked out of fandom" -- after all, as far as they're concerned, fandom (or a particular movie/series/book/band fandom) is "ruled" by the clique which they're no longer a part of.

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