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Just another unfunny bitch ([info]dawnswalker) wrote in [info]fandom_rant,
@ 2008-12-10 22:58:00


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Current mood:Nosy

Come to think of it, just find/replace for your fandom of choice here.
Dear Ace Attorney fans,

I know that characters in the Ace Attorney games do frequently turn out to be more (or less) than what they first appear to be.

I know that the series' writers do sometimes throw in plot twists that blow everything we thought we knew about the cases, characters, and overall plot out of the water.

I know that those same writers have a tendency to give at least vaguely sympathetic motives and/or backstories to most of the villains of the series. So yes, a few of them can actually come across as Just Misunderstood in some way or another.

I even know that there are quite a few characters whose positions on the Wheel of Morality are a bit more sketchy than Capcom would have us believe, whether they're supposed to be good characters or bad. Why hello there, famous Apollo Justice fandom example.


But guys? I think it's safe to say right now that, until proven otherwise, Kristoph Gavin is a pretty fucking evil jerk. So it's probably alright for people to write him as a villain without having to work particularly hard to defend themselves against your righteous fury.

It's true that we don't know everything about the character, and that the Apollo Justice arc is still going at the time of this writing. But we do know that he murdered people (one of them would have been a little girl, had things gone Just As Planned), and messed up the lives of several others, essentially because he got fired by one lousy client (but incurred no other penalties or lasting damage to his professional reputation that we know of). At the very least, we can agree that he's none too sane.

To be fair, you guys have every right to write Kristoph as a poor, misunderstood woobie as much as the hell you want, but everyone else has the same right to ask you what crack you're smoking when you complain about how people could be so mean to a character who is (as far as we know) one of the least remorseful and most batshit of the series' villains in their fanfics.


And if all else fails, can't you just stop worrying and learn to love the "AU" tag?



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iwanttobeasleep
2008-12-11 07:18 am UTC (link)
Ewwww. They do that?

And thank you for reminding me that it's absolutely killing me that we don't know why he did it, or why he's evil. Because they totally set us up for some kind of exciting explanation.

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[info]dawnswalker
2008-12-11 07:51 am UTC (link)
As much as I love the kink meme otherwise, it sometimes has quite a bit to answer for.

You're welcome! And I agree... I understand why they're going with "Ace Attorney: The Edgeworth Years" right now, but now that Apollo Justice is here, I want to play his story.

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iwanttobeasleep
2008-12-11 07:55 am UTC (link)
I want both of them! Edgeworth is awesome but Apollo is intriguing.

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[info]dontgiveahoot
2008-12-12 03:25 am UTC (link)
I'm actually excited to be playing as Edgeworth next (especially if Kristoph Gavin is his opponent now that Phoenix has been disbarred) but yes, I want to know what was behind those odd Psyche-Locks of Kristoph's and why Klavier was so easily able to believe his brother was indeed guilty of the Misham forgery/killing/attempted killing.

I also want too see whether "Lamioir" reveals herself to Apollo and Trucy, and I also want some Ace Attorney icons but that is just me.

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[info]dawnswalker
2008-12-12 04:03 am UTC (link)
I'm just afraid that it'll be like PW3, with Phoenix going "Gee, Apollo, it's too bad Trucy and Lamiroir died in that fire down at the cracker factory, but come to think of it, it's time to tell you..."

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[info]iczer6
2008-12-11 04:35 pm UTC (link)
Can we also apply this to Daryan as well?

Yeah his motivation was never clearly explained [IMO] but that doesn't change the fact the he was willing to frame a fourteen year old boy.

He may not be irredeemably evil but he's some poor downtrodden darling either and yes I do think Klavier is well within his rights to not want to deal with him.

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[info]dontgiveahoot
2008-12-12 03:26 am UTC (link)
Wordy McWord Wordsworth with worthy word side salad.

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[info]iczer6
2008-12-12 03:29 am UTC (link)
Adorable icon!

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[info]dawnswalker
2008-12-12 04:13 am UTC (link)
"Klavier doesn't want to talk to me because I kill and extort money from people... God, what a jerk. I bet he broke up our totally bitchin' band too, that jerk!"

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[info]animejosse
2008-12-16 12:38 am UTC (link)
Late reply, but WORD. At first I thought you'd seen the same rant I saw on y!gallery. It was basically "I know what Kristoph did was bad and he needed to be punished but WAAAAH PHOENIX WAS MEAN ABOUT IT SO IT WASN'T RIGHT".

With the way this girl ranted you'd think Phoenix was the new Light making the MASON system for the sole purpose of getting back at Kristoph. I was surprised she even acknowledged his crimes. I mean, yeah, I won't disagree about the faked card being sketchy and risky as hell, but surely I can't be the only one who thinks Phoenix had used Zak's blood just in case? And knew how Kristoph would react? Not to mention how he turned everyone's attention from the card to said reaction...

TL;DR-version: Just because Hobo!phoenix did something sketchy doesn't mean he's totally wrong and Kristoph's a pure angel.

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