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Pohjantähti ([info]stella_polaris) wrote in [info]fandom_rant,
@ 2009-02-14 22:29:00


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Current mood:Bitter
Current music:Franz Ferdinand - This Boy

Sexual insensitivity is insensitive
DEAR SGA FANDOM.


It's *still* not funny when you magically de-age two female characters and one male character, and then have the girls check the unconscious male's genitals out for shits and giggles. It's also a little skeevy when you write half the middle-aged female population as lusting over the teenaged male.

Yes, I know the show had a bad habit of drawing "humour" from having McKay get mocked by his friends, but this is not a way to endear your readers. Unless you can keep the scene funny if you switch the genders of the characters, you really, really shouldn't resort to this type of "humour".

And in case you don't get it, let me spell it out. Having a boy check out an unconsious girl's genitals is not funny. Having a group of middle-aged men openly lust after a teenaged girl isn't funny either.

Stop being such a goddamned douchebag.


(WHY does the fandom let people get away with shit like this? Why is it okay to write scenes like this when it's about a male character, when we all know we'd be up in arms about it if it was a female character?)



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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2009-02-14 09:07 pm UTC (link)
I think they may be enacting the "paybacks are a bitch" rule.

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-02-14 09:16 pm UTC (link)
No, I'm pretty sure it's just them being idiots. It's usually easy to tell if a writer has enough skill to take a trope or a stereotype and turn it on its head to show that "still think it's funny, huh?", and this particular fic just wasn't. It was so obviously clueless that I couldn't even finish reading it. I did skim it through to see if anything similar happened to the female characters, but as far as I could tell, they didn't even address the issue of one of the de-aged girls already having an adult boyfriend. Wtf.

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[info]sgtgeorgecarter
2009-02-14 09:44 pm UTC (link)
Dunno man, you're the one reading SGA.

I think all of it is pretty WTF. Isn't SGA one of the ones that had race issues? Sounds like the cluebat needs to make a visit.

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-02-14 09:47 pm UTC (link)
Yes, but it's more the show that has the racial issues, rather than the fics. The fic in the fandom is probably the best I've ever read. There are some rotten apples like the one I mentioned in my post, but as a whole, it's pretty amazing.

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[info]ladybirdsleeps
2009-02-15 06:12 pm UTC (link)
Yes, but it's more the show that has the racial issues, rather than the fics.

No, a lot of the fic has racial issues, too - that's prompted some wank. Anyone remember the barista blow-up?

There's a lot of good fic that doesn't have racial or gender issues, though. The fandom's one of the best I've read widely in, as far as quality of the fics goes.

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-02-15 08:03 pm UTC (link)
I don't remember, but I've only been in the fandom for a little less than a year, so I might've just missed it.

But yes, the fic quality is what kept me in the fandom, I have to say. Partly it's even what got me in it.

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[info]eilan
2009-02-16 05:34 pm UTC (link)
One fic = a lot of it?

I actually agree, though. The fact that both Teyla and Ronon magically disappear in a lot of the fic is very... strange.

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[info]stella_polaris
2009-02-16 08:58 pm UTC (link)
I only read McShep, but they seem to do that to all characters and concentrate on just John and Rodney. I don't think it's about race.

Can't talk for Gen fics though.

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[info]darkrose
2009-02-18 07:15 am UTC (link)
I only read McShep, but they seem to do that to all characters and concentrate on just John and Rodney. I don't think it's about race.

The thing is that most McShep fics manage to find places to stick all of the other characters. Cadman's a mainstay, even though she was in a grand total of two episodes back in second season. And how often does Parrish show up (paired with Lorne)? His screen time is less than 30 seconds--but he'll be in fics where every single character gets a walk-on except for Teyla and Ronon.

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