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	sandglass 2009-03-23 03:14 am UTC (link)
	Among fairly PC groups, I've noticed a trend towards it being unacceptable to use gay=bad, but using girls/ladies/women=bad is still acceptable. Like, "That's so gay" vs "Hurry up, ladies" (directed at a group of men or mixed gender). Didn't think it was that confusing a concept. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

keri
2009-03-23 03:21 am UTC (link)

OH.

I honestly couldn't tell if you were responding to people who don't use gay-as-in-bad around men, but do around women, or if you were responding to people who use the term gay instead of lesbian, or something like that.

It totally didn't occur to me that you were talking about "ladies" or "girls" or the like as a pejorative term.

But I agree with you now that I know what you meant.

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	It always makes sense in my head, you see. sandglass 2009-03-23 03:27 am UTC (link)
	Ooooh, I think I see where the disconnect is happening. Better, oh bewildered masses? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It always makes sense in my head, you see. keri 2009-03-23 03:34 am UTC (link)
	Yes, that definitely clears it up for me! Also, now that it's sparkling, I didn't even realize anyone who isn't a Coach Barkken type still uses ladies/girls/women like that. Are these people trying to be "ironic" or something? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It always makes sense in my head, you see. white_serpent 2009-03-23 03:43 am UTC (link)
	I didn't even realize anyone who isn't a Coach Barkken type still uses ladies/girls/women like that. Nah; it happens all the time. Consider my personal pet peeve: "cried like a little girl." (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It always makes sense in my head, you see. puipui 2009-03-23 10:43 am UTC (link)
	When my daughter was in Girl Scouts, they used to use "cried like a little boy" instead. It's that sort of thing that makes me want to buy more Girl Scout cookies. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: It always makes sense in my head, you see. sandglass 2009-03-23 03:47 am UTC (link)
	Just like people haven't stopped using gay=bad, they haven't stopped using female synonym=bad either. I wouldn't complain about the irony. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: It always makes sense in my head, you see. keri 2009-03-23 03:48 am UTC (link)
	I guess I'm lucky to be antisocial enough to never be around people who would use it, or at least, never in situations where they do. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	Re: It always makes sense in my head, you see. hitwoman 2009-03-23 04:45 am UTC (link)
	Much much better. Thanks for the clarification! I guess I just don't hear it used as an insult, or if I do, I don't pick up on it. I'm betting I'll be more aware now, though. (Reply to this)(Parent)

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