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Sister Psychosis ([info]bohicamouse) wrote in [info]fandom_rant,
@ 2004-03-05 23:16:00


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Current mood: energetic

you know this just makes me hate the movie even more
This is my first post here, so if it's not the kind of thing that belongs here, my apologies. I actually considered posting it on FW because I think the "film review" in question just may be the wankiest thing I have ever seen, but it's old, and it's only the one comment.

Ever see a movie that's very critically acclaimed and not been able to understand what anyone could ever like about it? That's the way I feel about the movie Rushmore. It gets over-the-top good reviews (I see a lot of "This is the closest thing to a perfect movie we will ever get") across the board, but there's not a single minute of it I enjoy, and I don't understand why it's considered a comedy. In fact I think a new genre of film should be created to house it, called "uncomfortable and embarrassing." Then we can put Clifford in there too. But all that's beside the point--I won't begrudge anyone their tastes and I even can see things in it that people may enjoy, although I personally don't.

In an effort to better understand why people liked this movie so much I headed to IMDB to read some of the user comments, and after a couple pages of "OMG best movie ever!" I found THIS review and promptly bruised my jaw on the floor.


an excellent brief litmus test for whether people will be worth getting to know or not, at least in terms of common interests. i very simply believe (only half-jokingly) that people who do not "get" rushmore, or the royal tenenbaums for that matter, will hold no opinions that i will find valid or can respect, about ANYthing. this film is a referendum on subtle, intelligent, adult-level sadness and melancholy and humor. simply put, it is brilliant, and one of the five best films i've ever seen. now, others may disagree to the extent of "well, it only made MY top 100, or top 50. . ." and i will cede them their point.

however;

when i see critiques like some that i have seen here, with comments (paraphrasing here) like "this movie sucked", "this was one of the most over-rated movies of the past X number of years" and "i just dont get what the big deal is about this movie", then i simply have to wonder what trauma(s) occured in the lives of these people that have tragically removed from them the ability to see the background, the subtle, the brilliance of understatement and grayness and shading and ambiguity, without each profound moment having to be pointed out to them in neon in such a CLEARLY excellent work like this. i think this type of reviewer needs characters to talk to themselves - "ok, now i am thinking about what i will do next - notice my scrunchy face. ok, now i am going to walk to the door - look at my arms and legs moving very exaggerated to show that i am in a hurry" so they will understand what is going on. luckily for us, the number of people like this is very few.

having said that, you dont HAVE to be an egghead to appreciate this movie, but i think the fact that it didnt do all that well mainstream-wise proves that anderson is the thinking man's director, and that for one to get the best of every little nuance of the film, it helps to be a little bit max fischer-esque oneself. there are people who are "dorky" that you just hate, because they are delusional and unsociable and impolite and blindly unaware of any of it (witness most sci-fi fans); fischer is a perfect character representation for all of us who, despite our quirks, remain unflailingly endearing at the core of our being and at the same time, are exceptionally lonely because of how hard it is to connect with others for most normal people, let alone those with the gifts of wit and observation and charm and intelligence all mixed together in a ratio that freaks most uninteresting people out. the average iq is 100, hence a world where most things are designed by, for and around that demographic. it is very lonely to watch the social isolation of oneself perfectly characterized in film, but also very redeeming and cathartic to see that others DO exist that can eventually bring a soulmate-type quality to his relationships and life. besides speaking personally, i think wes anderson has a lot more of this quality than he is willing to admit publicly in his interviews; otherwise, i think he'd have to own up to max being far less of a "creation" and more of a real-life experience.

to all those who didnt "get" this movie, i would hope that you eventually will. to all those who did "get it" and loved it, i hope that your own relationships give something back to you, and end up as satisfyingly as those of max, ms. cross and mr. blume. : )


Just . . . Jesus Christ. Is all I have to say. Let's look at that again:

fischer is a perfect character representation for all of us who, despite our quirks, remain unflailingly endearing at the core of our being and at the same time, are exceptionally lonely because of how hard it is to connect with others for most normal people, let alone those with the gifts of wit and observation and charm and intelligence all mixed together in a ratio that freaks most uninteresting people out.

Maybe the reason it's so hard for you to connect with others is that the first thing you ask them is whether they liked Rushmore and if they didn't you assume they were abused as a child. Just a thought. Also, bitch, please, you are NOT the next e.e. cummings. It's called a shift key--learn it, love it.

I fear the kind of person who would find this review "unflailingly endearing."

wankily edited to be a little nicer about hating the movie. which i do.



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[info]kyuuketsukirui
2004-03-06 05:25 am UTC (link)
Oh God. This makes me want to watch Rushmore (which I haven't) and hate it, just so I have nothing in common with this idiot.

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[info]norabombay
2004-03-06 05:50 am UTC (link)
Rushmore is a nifty film, but if you don't like Max Fischer, then it's pointless to watch more than a few minuites of it.

Milage may vary.

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[info]bohicamouse
2004-03-06 05:53 am UTC (link)
Have I told you yet I adore your icon? Because I do!

Yeah, I think that was my problem with it--I didn't like a single one of the characters from the very beginning, which made it really hard for me to care one way or the other about anything that happened to them.

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[info]norabombay
2004-03-06 06:16 am UTC (link)
I found that my favorite wasn't Max, but actually his little blonde sidekick. But if you don't like, then the movie just isn't any fun.

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[info]funkyhelix
2004-03-06 05:28 am UTC (link)

That poster was an idiot, but I adored the movie. To each their own.

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[info]bohicamouse
2004-03-06 05:31 am UTC (link)
Yeah, I'm not trying to slam anyone who likes the movie--after reading some of the reviews I can kinda get why it was popular, although it doesn't make me like it any better personally. So no offense meant to you or anyone else of course. But man . . . when people start saying things like "What trauma has occurred to you that you cannot grasp how BEAUTIFUL! THIS! MOVIE! IS!" that's when I start taking offense, heh.

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[info]sesana
2004-03-06 05:38 am UTC (link)
i think the fact that it didnt do all that well mainstream-wise proves that anderson is the thinking man's director

I guess that means Gigli is the most intellectual film of all time.

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[info]apoplexia
2004-03-08 05:09 pm UTC (link)
Is he actually in the Thinking Fellers Union Local 282? I think not!

I didn't mind Rushmore, but then, I'm a hopeless Bill Murray romantic. That said, I only saw it once, and if I like a film, I'll usually see it again. The Royal Tenenbaums, on the other hand, bored the tits off me.

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[info]iczer6
2004-03-06 06:01 am UTC (link)
Heh, this reminds me of a review of a cheesy 80's slasher movie in which the premise was 'serial killer with 'Mommy issues' lures beautiful women to his house and kills them with a flamethrower'.

That was pretty much the entire film.

But the review was talking about how the lead was a representation of how the '80's man' was coping with change or something like that.

It was incredible.

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[info]25th_of_april
2004-03-06 07:18 am UTC (link)
I hate the assumption that not liking something is equal to being an idiot. Or something.

I really just want to say that I keep seeing an ass and thigh in your icon, and it freaks me out.

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[info]hoorofcrowley
2004-03-06 07:51 am UTC (link)
Seriously, what if you feel you understood the movie quite well but STILL did not like it? And I didn't care for The Royal Tenenbaums either but I could have written an entire paper on it by the time I finished watching it.

This bugs me in relation to literature as well. So freaking what if I didn't care for Absalom, Absalom? Forgive me if I like a little more punctuation and a little less run-on in my literature!

*huff huff*

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[info]musette
2004-03-06 09:20 am UTC (link)
*headdesk* God, I think "you just don't understand!!!" is like the battle call of lit wankers. There's one girl on a forum I actually avoid like the plague now who is utterly convinced that if anyone doesn't agree with her interpretation of a character that a large portion of fandom call doltboy (and with good reason) that they just don't understand the novel and obv. need a better education. She hates it, HATES IT, when someone who has read the damn thing in the original French doesn't agree with her.

Oh damn, I spooged a bit there. Lemme clean that up.

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[info]hoorofcrowley
2004-03-06 09:28 am UTC (link)
Yes, that was a bit spoogey but as long as it didn't hit the Italian silk curtains, I think we're cool.

As for lit wank, there be nothing better. 'Cept for a nice bottle of Chianti and a bowl of cashews. But that's just me.

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[info]musette
2004-03-06 09:42 am UTC (link)
*checks the good silk curtains* Nope, didn't have quite the distance necessary, I think we're good. I'd hate to have to explain to the drycleaners again.

Lit wank while drinking the chianti and nibbling on the cashews?

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[info]eiviiaru
2004-03-06 06:44 pm UTC (link)
I getcha, I getcha.

Worse yet are the books where the "you just don't UNDERSTAAAAAND" spoogeline is more or less accurate but not even remotely proof that the person arguing against the book was wrong. There have certainly been lit classes where I've been tempted to blurt out "why, yes, I didn't understand this. Perhaps it had something to do with the fact that IT WAS AN ENTIRE CHAPTER WITHOUT PUNCTUATION, CAPITALIZATION, OR ANY OF THE OTHER TECHNIQUES USUALLY USED TO HELP READERS UNDERSTAND PROSE."

Sigh. I'll clean that up; Lit classes do that to my ill-prone spleen.

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[info]bohicamouse
2004-03-06 08:36 pm UTC (link)
Flowers for Algernon?

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[info]eiviiaru
2004-03-06 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Beloved. Flowers I could deal with because punctuationless writing makes sense for the first-person journal of a retarded man, but Beloved has an entire punctuationless chapter because apparently Toni Morrison hates me.

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[info]musette
2004-03-07 06:51 am UTC (link)
*facepalm* That would be how I felt about Walden. No, I didn't get the point of half of it, and no, it didn't have to do with my lacking intelligence or anything of the sort. It had to do with the fact that Thoreau pulled the whole book out of his arse!

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[info]sesana
2004-03-07 07:34 am UTC (link)
I know what novel you speak of. Couldn't pick the forum or the wanker, but I got the novel. "Doltboy" certainly covers it.

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[info]musette
2004-03-07 09:02 am UTC (link)
The official musical forum, and the wanker in question is actually aaaaaany number of people. *snerk* Doltboy really does narrow it down doesn't it?

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[info]mireille
2004-03-06 11:52 pm UTC (link)
And now I can't remember which Faulkner book it is that I had to read in Southern lit (It might have been Absalom, Absalom, for that matter--I either read it in class, or for my research paper.), when we were discussing the first chapter, and the guy sitting next to me popped up with, "Is it me, or did this guy just take three pages to say 'It was hot. It was damned hot.'?"

My feeling exactly. Please to be getting to the point now, Mr. Great Writer.

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[info]ipomoea
2004-03-06 08:29 am UTC (link)
Oh, good Lord. I've never even seen the whole thing, but I want to watch it and hate it now, too, just in case I ever run into people like that.

And I even had friends who were in it.

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[info]phosfate
2004-03-08 03:50 pm UTC (link)
fischer is a perfect character representation for all of us who, despite our quirks, remain unflailingly endearing at the core of our being and at the same time, are exceptionally lonely because of how hard it is to connect with others for most normal people, let alone those with the gifts of wit and observation and charm and intelligence all mixed together in a ratio that freaks most uninteresting people out.

"Whyyyyyy don't people liiiiiiiiike meeeeeeeee?"

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gip
[info]apoplexia
2004-03-08 06:09 pm UTC (link)
in honour of
     this review and
            of those
online                everywhere
who reject the
per
   nic
      ious rules
     of english orthography
and
   punctuation i have
                  created the
following

i
c
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n

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Re: gip
(Anonymous)
2004-03-15 03:28 am UTC (link)
Oh, my god, I want it for my LJ.

*drools*

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Re: gip
[info]apoplexia
2004-03-15 10:19 am UTC (link)
Go, take, enjoy. Credit is appreciated but not obligatory. I posted a bunch of icons on modernist poets over on [info]fwank_icons if you're interested.

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