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Monday, September 29th, 2008

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    3:25p
    I'm glad you understand English so wel...now understand this
    Hey there, opinionated person in my fandom. Opinions are great. I have them, you have them, lots of people have them. The neato-torpedo thing about forums is that we can discuss our opinions and get to see how everyone thinks. It's all very shiny in a perfect internet world.

    Opinions are not right or wrong; there are just varying degrees on a spectrum spanning from well informed to ignorant bliss. People are going to disagree with you and that's okay. That's what makes the discussion interesting. And an interesting discussion hinges on presenting your opinions in a respectful manner.

    This last part, I suggest you duct tape yourself to as you don't seem to understand it.

    You present your opinions in an incredibly condescending way, your replies to anyone disagreeing with you are scathing, rude, demanding, condescending, snotty, and barely within the etiquette rules of the board, and if someone dares to be as rude to you as you are them, you call it trolling. There is no way I could possibly agree with you publicly because I don't want to be a douche by association.

    Your post count doesn't impress me. It just means you're a very prolific twat. And your hate on the show doesn't make you edgy. It makes you look like a bitter twat with too much time on your hands.

    For the love of everyone you come in contact with, take up another hobby. I hear juggling chainsaws is very popular.

    Current Mood: unimpressed and unamused
    4:35p
    My fannish rage, let me show you it.
    I realize the Transformers fandom is not the most enlightened of groups but this sort of thing just pisses me off. Putting aside the fact that The Gay is not allowed in the TF:Mosaic project (with, apparently, exceptions made for humor), I find it rather insulting to continually insinuate that the sudden discovery that the object of your lusts is actually a male is horrifying. Double points if they turn around and start hitting on you. It's an incredibly stale joke that has overtones of homophobia that I'm just not comfortable with. Note the comments below the comic as well--this situation is regarded as awkward or just flat-out wrong. There's even a few "robots in disguise indeed!" crossdresser jokes thrown in for good measure.

    Does that mean the writer and artist of this comic are homophobic? Not necessarily. They're just going with a lowest common denominator joke, much like like the guy who did the Erector penis size joke last week. But stop for a moment and think about exactly why it's funny. You have one or more males participating in a manly heterosexual activity, lusting over or trying to attract a female (the stereotypical catcalling "headlights or gtfo" thing is canon for the Constructicons, btw, although so far they've only hit on inanimate cars). Then the "trap" is exposed, revealing that the male(s) have actually been participating in a homosexual activity by catcalling another male. This is found to be hilarious to the audience and humiliating to the male(s) involved. I'm not sure if it even works the same way for a reverse-trap, a female mistaken for a male by another female, but if it is the degree of humiliation is far less.

    ...am I overreacting here or is this legitimate? I realize the fandom's male dominated but they don't have to be dickheads about this.

    (Crossposted to my LJ.)

    EDIT: Seems the ones responsible have posted in their thoughts on the comic.

    Josh van Reyk, writer: Definitely not the case here. I just thought it would be funny if the Constructicons were hitting on a car, that; A) Was actually a Transformer, and B) Was a male Transformer.

    Those good ‘ole boys would surely freak-out if that ever happened.

    The Stunticons are just giving them a little grief, there are no hidden under-tones here.

    Apologies if anyone took offence to this, it certainly wasn’t intended.


    Ninjha, artist: Definitely! After reading all the comments and stuff, we had no idea this would be so controversial. Even while drawing it I thought of it as just a gag. I made sure the guns were powering up and stuff. The Stunticons were just supposed to scare them off, THATS IT. There is no reading into this, no hidden message, it is what you see.

    Yes, well, while I see an alternative explanation that the Stunticon's violent approach could have been the trigger as opposed to their revealed gender, Mr. van Reyk seems to indicate otherwise. I honestly can't be arsed to go in and argue with them, but I'd say the intent on the writer's part is pretty obvious. Accidental gay is terrifying.

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