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Jon "Bad Wasabi" Wood ([info]mcity) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-09-14 10:37:00


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The Wii is $250.
And, apparently, t3h Internets are pissed

The New York Times announced the US Wii Pricing today(as well as the fact that it's launching on November 19th, two days after the PS3), and the story was confirmed by USA Today. Apparently, there are hundreds of people who were willing to buy it at $199 with two controllers and the kitchen sink, but $250 for one controller and a bundled game is a dealbreaker.

1up thread one
1up thread two
Gamespot Article(surprisingly for them, very little actual wank)
Girl_Gamers
EnGadget on price
EnGadget liveblogging the NYC conference.
Joystiq's liveblogging
[update 1]CA Games thread Now with utter denial!
[update 2]Penny arcade forums

StarStabbedMoon says:
Well, atleast now we all know that the value dividing disappointment from acceptance is approximately $50.


I think that everyone's ignoring the real point here: it launches two days after Casino Royale is released! W00t!



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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-09-14 05:35 pm UTC (link)
They're whining about $250? Seriously, I was expecting this thing to be $300-400. I'm happy. :-D

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[info]attilathebun
2006-09-14 05:39 pm UTC (link)
I'm too excited by the fact that I now know exactly (knock wood) when it's coming out to spare half a thought to these idiots. I know when I need to get in line.

Especially the $5 NES games. Snake, Rattle, and Roll, here I come!

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 05:46 pm UTC (link)
WTF is up with the double-posting in the 1Up forums? And Protozoider-ameoba guy is waaay too uptight about it.

People who probably shelled out the $700 for the full version of the 360 are bitching about $250? A refurb PS2 still runs over $100. I tend to stay a console behind because of prices, but at this price, I could save for a Wii in a couple of months. Yay!

-viralmemory @ LJ

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 05:56 pm UTC (link)
Pfft. I don't care about the Nintendo StupidName. What I'm interested in is how much I daddy am going to have to shell out for the shiny Playstation 3.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 05:57 pm UTC (link)
I think that everyone's ignoring the real point here: it launches two days after Casino Royale is released!

Nonono, don't bring that up, or we'll get "The new James Bond SUX!" wank.

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[info]semirecluse
2006-09-14 05:58 pm UTC (link)
I want to pat your icon on the head.

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[info]hypno_jango
2006-09-14 05:59 pm UTC (link)
Nintendo has now confirmed that the Wii version of Twilight Princess will be available on November 19, but the GameCube edition won't arrive until sometime in December.

NOOO! *cries*

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[info]verpon
2006-09-14 06:00 pm UTC (link)
Do these people ever stop whinging?

Making some cursory calculations and hoping that the UK price stays in the realm of the US one, I'm happy as Larry (whoever he is). I was about to shell out that much on an iPod nano for heaven's sake. I'd have possibly have been marginally suspicious if it had only cost the equivalent of £100.

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[info]reeve
2006-09-14 06:03 pm UTC (link)
Here's another forum thread (linked to page 14, which starts from around the time of the SeattlePI/NYT leak) that may be worth sifting through, this time at Cheap Ass Gamer.

Some quotes:

"I would love to hear a $200 US price tomorrow. Nintendo owns japan. 360 is not an option there. It's a $212 Wii or a $600 PS3, they have differentiated their price already.

"In america, the story is different, it's a $250 wii or a $300 Xbox 360. They have nowhere near the price differential. Come on, reggie. You're smarter than this. Amazing that that $50 can make such a difference in how things are percieved. I'm somewhat pissed that the system is coming out at this price, because it's basically gamecube hardware, 4 years later. We will see tomorrow." -jer7583

"I'm not surprised at all at the virtual console pricing cause like, when has Nintendo EVER shied away from charging a shitload for old games? I didn't have much interest in virtual console anyway. Now if they let us download that shit to our DS somehow, I'd be all over it." -gambitmachete

"I think if Nintendo priced this at $20 and packed in 10 free games some of the people here would STILL find a reason to complain." -lawdood (so true, so true-- the site's not called "Cheap Ass Gamer" for nothing)

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[info]pyrrah
2006-09-14 06:05 pm UTC (link)
*blinks*

I don't see what the big deal is. Just don't rush out to buy it on the same day, wait till the price eventually drops down and more games are available, and voila!

Wait, this is why I was kicked out of gamehood...

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[info]rekall
2006-09-14 06:58 pm UTC (link)
$250 is cheap for a new game system these days!

If they were wanking over the PS3 price then I'd understand because Mr. Satan and I are still working out a deal over how much my soul is worth, but no deals like that are necessary for the Wii.

*wonders how much the Wii will cost in Canada*

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[info]hangingfire
2006-09-14 07:17 pm UTC (link)
Dear. God.

Between this and all the fapping about "OMG ITUNES 7 DOESN'T WORK ON MY XP PIECE OF CRAP", I am SO DAMNED TIRED of geek entitlement whining today.

What. The fuck. Ever. I'll be over here with my Apple laptop and Nintendo Wii (as soon as it's out) enjoying myself, thank you very much.

*wipes self off*

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Hey wait a second... - [info]ara, 2006-09-15 04:28 pm UTC
Re: Hey wait a second... - [info]tyraarane_, 2006-09-15 05:07 pm UTC
Re: Hey wait a second... - [info]ara, 2006-09-15 07:15 pm UTC
Re: Hey wait a second... - [info]tyraarane_, 2006-09-15 07:43 pm UTC
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[info]rowsdower
2006-09-14 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Pfft, all of these confirmations just make me happy. IT'S ALMOST HERE! HOORAY WII.

Then again, I probably feel this way because I've always liked Nintendo, and even more so recently now that the Playstation 3 is on my own On Notice Board (and oh close to being moved over to the Dead To Me board, at that).

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[info]themadscientist
2006-09-14 08:15 pm UTC (link)
<3!!!

Well, there goes my college educaton this semester. Also, Casino Royale? WHEE! Er, WII!

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[info]moriath
2006-09-14 08:19 pm UTC (link)
Since the Times story went live, Nintendo has also announced that the classic NES, SNES, and N64 games downloadable to the Wii's Virtual Console would range from $5 to $10 in price, in line with most Xbox Live Arcade games. Some 30 titles will be available at launch, including unnamed installments from the Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Mario franchises, with a total of 60 arriving by the end of the year.

Hell, with that announcement, I don't even need to worry about being able to afford games at launch. I can afford a $250 system plus ~$20 to pick up a few old school games then harass my family for any new Wii games that I want for Christmas (rather than harassing them for the system and a game all at once. Like my brother will be).

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[info]dawnswalker
2006-09-14 08:29 pm UTC (link)
Dude, it may be $250, but it comes with a pack-in game, at launch.

KIDS TODAY! WHY, WHEN I WAS YOUR AGE BLAH BLAH BLAH

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[info]rachel_pi
2006-09-14 08:30 pm UTC (link)
Since the Times story went live, Nintendo has also announced that the classic NES, SNES, and N64 games downloadable to the Wii's Virtual Console would range from $5 to $10 in price, in line with most Xbox Live Arcade games. Some 30 titles will be available at launch, including unnamed installments from the Donkey Kong, Zelda, and Mario franchises, with a total of 60 arriving by the end of the year.

That just WINS. Especially because I don't think my SNES works anymore. Hell, iTunes is charging about $5 a game, and that's just to play them on the iPod.

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iwanttobeasleep
2006-09-14 09:25 pm UTC (link)
Wee bit of wank over Link's new right-handedness at the Zelda comm, and knowing them there could very well be some wank about the TP release date.

I'll be over here, giggling at the idea of the Wii and TP.

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What I sent to IGN - [info]miraba, 2006-09-15 04:07 am UTC
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[info]demonoflight
2006-09-14 09:53 pm UTC (link)
...uh, what? They're wanking about $250? Freakin' $250? One console, plus controller, plus games, for $250, and they're bitching about it?

For the love of fuck. $250 is a fucking good deal. I thought it'd cost a LOT more than that. And comparing to the PS3, it's NOTHING. *is SO glad her mom will help her pay for her PS3 once it's released*

Just wait till it'll get to Europe. People are going to bitch and moan like NUTS. Though then it'll be with good reason since the prices here are outrageous.

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(no subject) - [info]mcity, 2006-09-15 03:19 am UTC
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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 10:14 pm UTC (link)
I'm sorry, I'll just be over here going "Six more days till Harvest Moon DS. SIX MORE DAYS. CURSE YOU SEPTEMBER! THERE GOES MY PAYCHECKS!".

... *coughs* Anyways, yey. Wii for under 300 bucks = win. My brother is STILL paying off his 360 and it's almost a year old now isn't it?

-CA-

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 10:30 pm UTC (link)
Don't any of these people know how to save money? I mean, it's not like we haven't known the Wii was coming out ages ago. $250 is nothing... wasn't the XBox 360 more expensive than that?

And seriously, my brother's been saving up for the Wii for over the past year. He's got over $1000 to spend on the Wii and all its accessories. Plus, he's only 14 so it's not like he pulls in a paycheck every few weeks. And he STILL saved way more than he needs!

-Melisus

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(no subject) - [info]stopthatgirl7, 2006-09-15 02:01 pm UTC

[info]harrylovesron
2006-09-14 10:35 pm UTC (link)
...$250 AND a pack-in game?!?

Now I have to choose between a DS Lite or a Wii as my big present from my parents Santa Claus this year. D: DAMN YOU NINTENDO

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 10:40 pm UTC (link)
All I can think about is how elasticity of demand for the "Wii" must be high, cause a small price change (sorta) causes a huge decrease in demand. Damn you college.

justseventeen@lj

(Is the "LiveJournal user" login thing really for LiveJournal users?)

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(no subject) - [info]harrylovesron, 2006-09-15 03:57 am UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-09-14 10:49 pm UTC (link)
THE WII'S ALMOST HERE.

WHO CARES ABOUT THE PRICE OMFG.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-15 12:18 am UTC (link)
The Xbox360 at launch: $300-$400 minimum
The PS3 at launch: $400 minimum
The Wii at launch: $250

. . .

Um. Wtf are they whining about? Plus $5-$10 oldschool games? Are you kidding me, that's BITCHIN AWESOME.

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Massive damage. - [info]mcity, 2006-09-16 05:20 am UTC


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