Minor Penny and Aggie Webcomic Kerfluffle
Penny and Aggie is a webcomic that updates Monday, Wensday, and Friday. It deals with teen issues in highschool between the popular and unpopular crowd and is a pretty good read. A recent string of strips deal with the issue of teen sex and Wensday's strip is left on a cliffhanger.
Wank occurs in the forums containing cries of double standards, stereotypes, teen sex, who should be blamed and sexual preference with a side dish of propper bathroom manners. It's died down a bit, but as the potential to ignite once more.
Marshall's reaction to his pent-up girlfriend, Karen, busting in on him in the men's gym shower stirs up some surprised reactions at first. All is going smoothly until poster StarKruzr comments that:
What is with this bizarre and oft-repeated concept in this forum of a red-blooded American teenage male being "scandalized" by HIS GIRLFRIEND coming into the shower with him? ...If Marshall is reacting like this, he either has the sex drive of a brick or is gay...
Highlights:
ivy-chan: I dislike the assumption that if a young male is presented with a naked young woman, all rational thought goes completely out the window and everything escalates to sex, and if this does not happen, the young man is clearly gay. (Leaving out asexual altogether, which embitters me in a different way.) Marshall has made his feelings on this matter as clear as possible, he doesn't want to have sex, he doesn't think he is ready. Shockingly, I knew a few guys in high school who were going to be celibate until marriage. They're rare, but they're around, and still amazingly not gay.
Tarlia:If the roles were reversed, and she was "scandalized" by HIM coming into her shower, would you assume she was gay or had the sex drive of a brick, too?
What is it with this assumption that all straight teenage males MUST want to have sex?
Fen:And I hate Karen. Why? Cause I find myself in her former stereotype(the Chubby girl, that dresses unfashionable and gets mocked. oh, and wears glasses) and I'm doing fine by myself. I'd never become like she is now, a greedy, attention-hungry, snob. And she can't be chubby. really. Look at her clothes. She mostly stuff that only look good on perfectly slim people.
Ever since she lost weight she's lost every moral value she had. And I really can't figure out how Marshall and her could form a couple.
StarKruzer:He's being presented with his girlfriend, who is naked, and whom he supposedly is attracted to, and she's soaked from head to toe with him in the shower. "WHAT are you DOING?" is not a normal reaction to this, WHATSOEVER. Perhaps "Karen!" or "Honey!" followed by nervous laughter. Not... outrage.
No teenage male is going to be "morally offended" by his girlfriend doing what Karen did -- unless he is asexual or gay.
Your gender-equality indignance is misdirected, trust me on this.
Ollie, have any of those guys expressed clear interest in women? Have any of them even had girlfriends, or are they still stuck in nerdy celibacy (and I use this term as "lack of ALL sexual contact including KISSING) which, because they can't escape from it, they must embrace as part of their identity as a way of gaining control over it? ...
Marshall, had he been a straight, NORMAL teenage male, could have seized upon this event to show Karen what he WAS comfortable with in terms of sexual activity, be it "heavy petting" or any number of other things that could have been quite satisfying for her. We didn't have to see it in-frame, either -- obviously.
StarKruzr:( in response to Fen on Karen loosing moral fiber) Has she decided that it's acceptable to kill people? Has she decided it's now acceptable to cheat on tests or steal? No. She was trapped in a mental and emotional box which you AND I understand quite well and is currently dealing with the consequencs of being freed from that box.
iRobot: It's not right for a guy to pressure a girl into sex, what makes you think it's okay for a girl to pressure a guy into sex? Double standard much?
There's more in the comments.