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elektra3 ([info]elektra3) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-09-18 22:39:00


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Current mood:Gobsmacked
Entry tags:anime/manga, elitism

Sarcasm = ZOMG Psychopath
Over at the Princess Tutu LJ community, [info]tomoyoichijouji asks the members of the community about what other series they're interested in. So far, so unwanky, until [info]ryosato makes the following comment:

Well, I think the reason this happens is simply because Tutu is inherently an "otaku" show... it's not something the casual anime fan typically watches. And otaku, as we all know, watch a lot of anime. ^_~ I'd also say the reason they like Naruto and Inu Yasha aren't because those are necessarily similar in quality or substance is just because of odds... those are mainstream, easily accessable anime, and are incredibly popular. So I think that's all there is to that.

To which [info]haro replies:

Yeah, IY and Naruto are just big because they're mainstream and easy to access. It has nothing to do with their quality level. Never mind the fact that they both had huge fanbases still long before they ever came to America and were only available in fansubs- therefore less easy to access than PT is now. They're also not hugely popular, and in some cases, crtically adored over in Japan either.

[info]ryosato takes immediate offense:

=D Wow, can we say psychopath?

Take a BREATH before you post insane replies to people. O_o; The reason Naruto is liked by fans of Princess Tutu is because it's popular (the meaning of popular is of course that lots of people like it) so the odds are for Princess Tutu fans liking it. Also, because it's easily accessible, lending to its popularity. It was popular in sub fans, yes, but Naruto is popular in the mainstream now as well, since it's on TV. I work in a comic store, I know what I'm talking about. The same with Inu Yasha. A lot of their popularity is owed simply to the fact that they're ON TV, and therefore AVAILABLE to a HUGE amount of people that would never have watched anime otherwise.

I never said that being popular or mainstream was a BAD thing. O_o;;

Also, they ARE NOT similar in quality or substance. Quality-wise, Princess Tutu is above and beyond MANY anime. That doesn't mean they're BAD shows, just that Tutu had a lot more money put into it. The animation is much more consistent and clean, and everything about it had more time and effort and funds... so quality-wise it is a higher priced production. And substance-wise, I don't think you can really compare Princess Tutu and Naruto or Inu Yasha very easily. ^_^;;

So uh... yeah. Take a breath next time before ripping into someone for something they didn't evey say! =D It helps you not look like a complete lunatic.



And with a calm, reasonable reply like that, you just KNOW that things are going to end well, right?




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[info]doomsday
2006-09-19 06:59 am UTC (link)
Condescension's quite the epidemic these days.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 07:04 am UTC (link)
You know, I agree entirely with ryosato.

S/he may be more than just a tad condescending, but they're still right.

*shrugs*

-Fencedude


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(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 07:13 am UTC (link)
I am mad for thinking haro's comment was, well, normal? Logical? Not vicious?

Also, I get tired ^_^ of those anime smilies being sprinkled throughout posts. ^_~ The smilies, they do nothing!

~SqueakerMouse

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[info]sepiamagpie
2006-09-19 07:18 am UTC (link)
Your anons suck. Get new ones.

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[info]solle
2006-09-19 07:19 am UTC (link)
Princess What?

The last anime series I properly followed were Utena and Excel Saga (+PPP), which was... *checks* over two years ago. Am I terribly missing out here?

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[info]out_bottle
2006-09-19 07:28 am UTC (link)
I work in a comic store, I know what I'm talking about.

Comic Book Guy!

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[info]puipui
2006-09-19 07:40 am UTC (link)
Take a BREATH before you post insane replies to people. O_o;

Physician, heal thyself.

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[info]rotten_fish
2006-09-19 07:46 am UTC (link)
the meaning of popular is of course that lots of people like it

What, really? I had no idea.

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[info]lemone
2006-09-19 07:56 am UTC (link)
I fuckin' hate it when people sprinkle emoticons throughout bitchy/wanky posts like that. "I put a smiley at the end of my sentence! It's like I hardly called him/her a psychopath for no reason at all!"

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[info]khym_chanur
2006-09-19 08:00 am UTC (link)
If you don't stop wanking about a magical girl anime... THEN YOU MUST MARRY ME!!!

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[info]nlb_muffin
2006-09-19 08:17 am UTC (link)
Aw, there's an apology in there. That... disappoints me.

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[info]mochibuni
2006-09-19 09:21 am UTC (link)
Hasn't Ryo been in a couple of other wanks?

I want to say Digimon.

Also, Princess Tutu is pure crack. I could only take so much of it before I had to flee, and I usually LOVE that kind of stuff.

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[info]demonoflight
2006-09-19 10:00 am UTC (link)
Good GOD. Ryosato AGAIN? In a fandom other than Digimon? Oh, crud. No fandom is safe.

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[info]nyonyo
2006-09-19 10:42 am UTC (link)
I was scrolling through the wank, slightly disappointed that the wank wasn't more Princess Tutu-centric (I was secretly hoping it would be "MYTHO: PANTS VS. NO PANTS? DISCUSS!" wank), and then noticed [info]ryosato was using one of my Animorphs text icons. And then I squinted and realized it was the exact same coloring, layout, and text as the icon I made, but...in a different font.

And there are four of them, remade in this fashion, uploaded in all. I'm just...mystified. Why would you go to all the trouble? O_o

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[info]nekoama
2006-09-19 11:58 am UTC (link)
I work in a comic store, I know what I'm talking about.

Well, I work in an anime store and I think you're bugfuck crazy.

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[info]shadowkitty
2006-09-19 01:16 pm UTC (link)
Projection?

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[info]oxydosic
2006-09-19 01:21 pm UTC (link)
She thought that was psychotic? Someone doesn't get out much.

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(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2006-09-21 10:58 pm UTC

janegray
2006-09-19 01:49 pm UTC (link)
Wow, finally a Princess Tutu wank!

My little Fandom is all grown up *wipes tear*

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(no subject) - pink_lightning, 2006-09-27 07:03 am UTC

[info]pyrrah
2006-09-19 02:40 pm UTC (link)
Otaku can too obsess over mainstream series! Now I wonder if anyone here is old enough to remember the Ranma 1/2/Inuyasha fanwars when the latter just started.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 02:43 pm UTC (link)
Damn, and Princess Tutu was supposed to be one of the most non-wanky fandoms I was in. D: *Pets it*

But seriously, from what I've seen with most Princess Tutu fans, they're nice and sane. This seems like something stupid for either of those people to blow up over D:

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 03:05 pm UTC (link)
If you do not stop wanking...

YOU MUST MARRY ME.

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(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 03:18 pm UTC (link)
From what I have seen, I have been an anime fan (or "otaku"... if you'd like) longer than ryosato has, and hell, have probably seen more anime than her. I don't mean to sound like an elitist bitch or anything, but to make a point. Why the hell can she say anything about how "hardcore otaku that have seen a lot of anime are one of the main people who watch Princess Tutu, yet with shows like Naruto and Inuyasha... NOT SO MUCH."

Uh, riiiight. I knew something was wrong with me when I watched shows like that! I just knew it! It may be true on a few levels, but god dammit!

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not hardcore enough! - (Anonymous), 2006-09-19 04:59 pm UTC
Re: not hardcore enough! - [info]misakichi, 2006-09-19 05:11 pm UTC
Re: not hardcore enough! - (Anonymous), 2006-09-19 09:10 pm UTC
Re: not hardcore enough! - [info]ueuecoyotl, 2006-09-20 03:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dreamoflife02, 2006-09-19 10:03 pm UTC

[info]seeshellirun
2006-09-19 04:51 pm UTC (link)
"I work in a comic book store, I know what I'm talking about."

This was probably only after her attempts at being a sex therapist failed.

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(no subject) - [info]antigone, 2006-09-19 08:11 pm UTC

(Anonymous)
2006-09-19 04:51 pm UTC (link)
lol.

My favorite part is how ryosato probably /actually thinks/ she came across as really clever and a head above the 'psychopath'. That never ceases to be fucking hilarious on the internets.

-Ah Nonny Maus

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(no subject) - [info]ueuecoyotl, 2006-09-20 03:47 am UTC

[info]esclaramonde
2006-09-19 05:28 pm UTC (link)
Where did all of these mice with opinions come from?

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