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Vigilant E. Rodent, Esq. ([info]vigilanterodent) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-10-26 19:47:00


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Entry tags:fandom: world of warcraft

Blood Elves - The Flaming Crusade
I'm not a WoWer myself (I have no MONEY for that) but a friend without a JF account pointed me to this fapfest, and it is both hilarious and sad. And very very wanky.

So, one of the reasons WoW is delaying on releasing the Blood Crusade upgrade is because they're altering the appearances of the Blood Elves. Why? Because apparently they received multiple complaints that the male elves looked "too gay". And they also decided to beef up the female elves' racks.

Some feedback on the WoW forums, including rather a lot of people being all ICK FEMININITY WTF. Comments may have been deleted - said friend without the JF account is pretty sure the thread was 17 pages long at one point.

Another thread.

This . . . goes over so very well indeed in the LJ group [info]wow_ladies.

A delightful sample of posts: Because of the way it's been presented and the huge arguments surrounding it, it's become about sexism and homophobia and the fact we always have to be considerate of straight boys and their insane fear of anything remotely gay or girlie.

God forbid there be pretty boys in the game, they could be gay! God forbid the girls get some eye candy, the only pretty and sexy in the game should be boobs! God forbid the emotes sound vaguely gay, even in humor, since it offends their delicate senses, etc etc.


And another, similar rant here: Blizzard turns around and practically caters to these cretins by saying that an effeminate character is not menacing enough, not strong enough to properly represent the Horde? That, to me, is tantamount to saying that a character that appears feminine is somehow weak. What the hell kind of message is that to send to your players? Especially female ones? Or hey, boys who aren't built like tanks, whether or not they like to kiss other boys?

Into this cauldron comes a doormat brave soul contesting the general reaction of WTF WoW PLAYERS STOP BEING HOMOPHOBES AND SEXIST:

I've played wow now off and on for a couple of years. I love the game and I love being a girl. That being said. Sometimes, when I read the wow ladies journal I am struck by how true the guys are about us women gamers. I have heard more whining and complaining about people are mean, people are rude, people are male(hehe). Personally, If you want to play a game that is mostly populated with guys start learning to deal with them. Like it or leave it men are rude, play rough, and like to talk sh*t. Like like women with exagerated curves and like to pretend that they are buffed strong men. Accept it or create a game where the rules are otherwise. I don't think a game pointed mostly at just the female gaming population is going to do very well. Mainly because like me alot of female gamers do like to play with the boys. Sometimes I want to be loud obnoxious and do silly things. maybe its just my p**is envy showing up. but I find it funny and entertaining when the guys are being stupid. They are playing a game stop being so controlling.

IT GETS BETTER: Now there is a community for bringing back the original model, [info]bringingbesback. The first post there may be found HERE.

For those of you who are curious, a comparison of the two models HERE




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[info]antimatterspork
2006-10-27 03:00 am UTC (link)
So wait, girls expect a gaming company to understand them?
Has the industry changed since I stopped paying attention? Because when I followed gaming stuff, the majority was of the opinion that girls don't play games (which might be the problem here, I suppose).

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(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 03:04 am UTC
(no subject) - janegray, 2006-10-27 11:31 pm UTC

[info]wankaholic
2006-10-27 03:07 am UTC (link)
This is why I play Kingdom of Loathing (when I remember). Stick figures have no boobs!

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(no subject) - [info]snarkbunny, 2006-10-27 06:31 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]wankaholic, 2006-10-28 09:17 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]taktuk, 2006-10-30 06:05 am UTC

[info]anne_noonlight
2006-10-27 03:07 am UTC (link)
All I can say is: Cam Clarke, bitches.

/making a gay elf 'cause I have a thing for narcissistic bugfuck insane panto villains.

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[info]ianthefira
2006-10-27 03:37 am UTC (link)
Woes.

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[info]empyrealdragon
2006-10-27 03:40 am UTC (link)
Am I the only person who actually likes the new look? I didn't see anything really wrong with the old one, but I think the new one is nicer looking.

And note to the people of bringbesback: Web petitions do not work. They can be too easily forged. Your effort is futile.

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(no subject) - [info]anne_noonlight, 2006-10-27 03:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]torawashi, 2006-10-27 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anne_noonlight, 2006-10-27 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]vigilanterodent, 2006-10-27 05:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]empyrealdragon, 2006-10-27 05:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hearsawho, 2006-10-27 07:52 am UTC

[info]swordlily
2006-10-27 03:43 am UTC (link)
I don't have much of an issue with the change itself. It's the sexist justification for it that chaps my ass.

"It was also important that as members of the Horde that the Blood Elves gave the impression of strength and a more menacing presence. Please be aware that all beta content is still subject to testing and can change at any time."

So that means they're going to buff up the lady blood elves' arms so they look like they can actually pick up a sword, right? The last time I checked, boobs were not the source of physical power and menace.

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(no subject) - [info]rikiki, 2006-10-27 03:52 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]rikiki, 2006-10-27 08:23 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]j_mouse, 2006-10-27 05:11 pm UTC

[info]worstangel
2006-10-27 03:44 am UTC (link)
The new blood elves look like wussy night elves. Also, whatever: BOOBIES.

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[info]rikiki
2006-10-27 03:48 am UTC (link)
This is why I like FFXI. They've got a decent range for all the models, IMHO. (Though there's a lacking in actual pants for some of the armor, if you're a female, some of the armor is just as no-pants-ish for the males, too.) *cough*halfthesubligars*cough*

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[info]ashenmote
2006-10-27 03:48 am UTC (link)
Right on, kids. Nothing says 'not gay!' like playing a bodybuilder elf, you got that right.

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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-10-27 04:14 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-10-27 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 04:57 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]alpheratz, 2006-10-27 04:49 am UTC
(no subject) - janegray, 2006-10-27 11:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]heddychaa, 2006-10-28 03:26 am UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2006-10-27 03:51 am UTC (link)
Is this the part where I apologize for being wanky and promise never to do it again?

But, damn, they change the model to make the weakest race in the game (weaker than the gnomes!) look stronger? Logic, anyone?

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[info]keleri
2006-10-27 03:58 am UTC (link)
Eh, WoW geek here. My $2.45: I really preferred the old BEs. The difference is most striking when you see a comparison of the naked models, and the old model nearly had normal musculature. That said, there's no point in trying to do anything about it; the main designers have too much of a hard-on over Warhammer 40K and eight-foot-tall space marines with giant codpieces to let any race, even one made up of caster classes, get away without looking like they've been abusing steroids. (Undead and trolls excepted because the former's dead and the latter... well, who knows.)

And even with the 'roid rage, the male character models still come out better than the female ones, which are all basically green/blue/purple/short humans [with tails/horns].

The sexist justification there really makes my blood pressure spike. I can't believe I missed the implications when I read it on the forums. -_-;;

So yeah. I desperately wish that Blizz would come out with different body types, so my cloth-wearing boys wouldn't be threatening to split their robes by flexing their biceps and my melee-class girls would actually have some meat on them.

*wipes up*

And despite all the changes, I'm still excited to be making my blood elf paladin, whom I will be RPing as being flamboyantly homosexual. ^___________^ Whee!

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(no subject) - [info]rikiki, 2006-10-27 04:05 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]keleri, 2006-10-27 04:20 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]keleri, 2006-10-27 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]torawashi, 2006-10-27 08:10 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]bitca, 2006-10-27 04:56 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2006-10-27 05:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 04:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anne_noonlight, 2006-10-27 04:30 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 04:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anne_noonlight, 2006-10-27 04:37 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 04:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]anne_noonlight, 2006-10-27 08:23 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 04:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]keleri, 2006-10-27 04:34 am UTC
(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 05:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]palabradot, 2006-10-27 06:53 pm UTC
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[info]arielchan
2006-10-27 04:17 am UTC (link)
Get with the program, guys. Data was just released OCTOBER SIXTH saying that in online gaming? 64% of players are FEMALE. It's only a man's world in WoW because you expect it to be, and therefore you tolerate the shit you are given.

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(no subject) - [info]j_mouse, 2006-10-27 01:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]chartyhoax, 2006-10-27 09:43 pm UTC

[info]dawnswalker
2006-10-27 04:20 am UTC (link)
They cast Cam Clarke, and they're worried about the Blood Elves looking "too gay" for WoW?

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(no subject) - [info]amberwaves, 2006-10-27 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]fourth_impact, 2006-10-27 10:49 am UTC

[info]keleri
2006-10-27 04:23 am UTC (link)
Oh hey, there's a GUComic about this very thing. xD

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(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-10-27 04:29 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sonic331va, 2006-10-28 04:36 am UTC

[info]blue_penguin
2006-10-27 06:24 am UTC (link)
I don't play WoW, but having watched the emote videos, I have to say that the new "buff and manly" design only makes it funnier when they talk, since the way they talk is now completely incongruous with how they look.

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[info]faultypremise
2006-10-27 06:36 am UTC (link)
What?

Dammit, I wanted a gay blood elf. >(

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[info]swordlily
2006-10-27 07:45 am UTC (link)
Anyone have before and after pics of the Bood Elf females?

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[info]aerobot
2006-10-27 08:05 am UTC (link)
So they whine about the elves being too 'girly'.


... Guys, they're FUCKING ELVES. HELLO.

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[info]tetsuki
2006-10-27 09:05 am UTC (link)
Great. Just when I made a shiny and very ghey male Blood Elf Warlock artwork. T_T

Anyway, I was expecting something worse, but the new model doesn't look that bad. At least it still looks loads better than the male Night Elves.

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icon - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-10-27 04:59 pm UTC
Re: icon - [info]tetsuki, 2006-10-28 04:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sonic331va, 2006-10-28 04:39 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sonic331va, 2006-10-28 04:39 am UTC

[info]influencethis
2006-10-27 11:07 am UTC (link)
This wank makes me want to run out and get the game just to make a hot gay elf man.

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[info]lollercoaster
2006-10-27 11:24 am UTC (link)
It seems to me that all the girls want to play handsome blood elves.

You know how everyone knows half naked, slutty female chars in WoW are played by guys? I suspect something similar will happen with the male blood elves, minus the sluttiness (or with!). Male blood elf=female player XD

I don't play WoW but looking the the comparisons... the old model is much better, The new one has weird ass chest and arms.

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(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2006-10-27 12:52 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]worstangel, 2006-10-27 11:54 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]beckyh2112, 2006-10-28 04:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lollercoaster, 2006-10-28 11:33 am UTC

[info]bitca
2006-10-27 03:28 pm UTC (link)
Bah, that wank was tame.

Better wanks on this topic are here: http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/4410882.html (particularly this comment thread: http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/4410882.html?thread=70469890#t70469890)
http://community.livejournal.com/worldofwarcraft/4393666.html

and then there is this wank which is only sort of related: http://community.livejournal.com/wow_ladies/1698310.html

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[info]greenling
2006-10-27 04:57 pm UTC (link)
Oh, honey. There's a reason they call them faeries.

Change the model all you like, it's going to help about as much as naming them "gelves" or whatever it was the Final Fantasy MMO decided on.

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(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-10-27 05:00 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rikiki, 2006-10-27 08:28 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-10-28 01:05 am UTC

[info]maureenlycaon
2006-10-27 05:44 pm UTC (link)
I wondered when this puppy was gonna make it here, while I was browsing it last night.

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[info]paintobscura
2006-10-27 06:23 pm UTC (link)
I have to sit on my hands for this one, because the whole thing makes me so freaking angry (mostly because of Blizzard's attitude).

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