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Sarah the Hussy ([info]braisinhussy) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-10-29 23:23:00


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Entry tags:actors, crazy people, feminism: you're doing it wrong, sockpuppets

James Urbaniak vs. teh crazy
This starts in June 2006 and is ongoing.

Actor James Urbaniak has a livejournal. I know him only as Dr. Venture from the Venture Brothers, but he's done a bunch of other stuff.

His resume has caught the attention of one karen_strang. In her inaugural LJ post, she compiles a list of "the most egregious woman-haters of America's culture". This list includes [info]urbaniak. In her "review" of American Splendor, she writes:
I also did a little research on an actor named James Urbaniak, who plays the appropriately named "Crumb." He has one of the most appalling filmographies I've ever seen, an endless list of creeps, psychos, perverts and killers. Urbaniak must be rated as one of the most misogynist performers on the planet.

There's more of the same here in her thoughts on his role in Henry Fool.

In this entry, [info]urbaniak posts a picture of one of his babies with a copy of the Venture Brothers DVD. D'awww and all that. In response, [info]karen_strang posts this rant. My favorite exchange:
k_s: James Urbaniak has suborned the will of his spouse and forced her to produce not one child but two.
anonymous commenter: It's not like you can internally chose whether one, two, or more children develop inside of you. Kind of funny to appear to suggest it.
k_s: Well of course you cannot choose. That's how men like it.

Um, what?

Someone brings her to the attention of [info]urbaniak. He makes a post about the situation, and [info]karen_strang comes and responds to practically every comment.

And then... there is a whole lot of crazy from [info]karen_strang, and a lot of just-can't-leave-it-alone from [info]urbaniak. (At this point, I kind of want to smack both of them around a bit.)

After June, they go to their respective corners. [info]karen_strang starts talking about comics, and [info]urbaniak continues talking about Venture Brothers, Kidnapped, his twins, etc. She sort of drops out of the LJ scene in mid-July, posting infrequently.

Until recently.

[info]karen_strang is writing a book called The Urbaniak Effect. No, really.
As you can see, I've been busy. The deal for my book, The Urbaniak Effect: The Spectacle of Celebrity, The Subjugation of Women and a Holographic View of Culture is finally nearing completion and the work on the book itself will soon be under way.

How has this occurred? Funny story.

Faithful respondents will recall that I was working on my dissertation some months back when I got sidetracked by an online war with actor/blogger James Urbaniak. All the time I was cursing myself for getting drawn into such a petty battle with a cultural nonentity, it turns out someone was paying attention. Namely, my aunt Cecie, who, as it happens, is a rather influential literary agent in New York. She felt that I was really onto something with my holographic view of culture, where the smallest cultural grain of sand (and Urbaniak and his projects certainly qualify as that: an off-Broadway play, low-budget, independent films, two failed TV shows) can be seen to reveal everything one needs to know about a culture. The study of cultural minutiae is, apparently, a "hot topic" in publishing circles, with books about cod and salt and numbers and colors being abnormally popular at the moment; reaction to the proposal in the publishing world was immediate and substantial and I had several publishers competing for my favors, as it were.

The book is not "about" Urbaniak
per se, but rather what he shows about American culture, distilled down to its most basic premises: ie, the primacy of male power, the relentless attack on the rights of women, the bread-and-circuses song-and-dance that keeps a nation distracted from the destruction of a planet at the whim of a male-dominated corporate oligarchy.

Okay!

[info]urbaniak must make this known to his readers, so he links to it, and once again [info]karen_strang must come and respond a lot.


Then the whole thing kind of just tapers off. Maybe they'll continue picking at each other. Maybe it'll turn out that [info]karen_strang is a sockpuppet of [info]urbaniak's. Who knows?




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O_o
[info]semtex
2006-10-30 09:38 am UTC (link)

I only wish I had a Venture Bros icon so that I could express my thoughts on this wank. Woe!

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[info]hallidae
2006-10-30 09:40 am UTC (link)
::reads some of the K_S stuff::

...Wow. Just...Wow. She's special in a ::twirls finger next to head:: way.

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(no subject) - [info]semtex, 2006-10-30 08:27 pm UTC

[info]slackeremeritus
2006-10-30 09:47 am UTC (link)
Uh.

Has anyone bothered to tell Ms. karen_strang that the roles an actor portrays on-screen don't necessarily reflect said actor's actual character, personality, beliefs, morals, ethics, or any of that other fun shit? Anyone? Anyone? ...Bueller?

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[info]lessis
2006-10-30 09:47 am UTC (link)
So let me get this straight, because this guy has played characters she finds distasteful he is a horrible, misgoynist, oppressor of women?

The batshit is strong with this one.

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[info]napalmnacey
2006-10-30 09:51 am UTC (link)
Karen needs to learn to love her vagina.

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[info]sunhawk
2006-10-30 09:58 am UTC (link)
This is my favourite part!
http://urbaniak.livejournal.com/39455.html?thread=1212703#t1212703

[info]karen_strang
2006-06-10 09:39 am UTC (link) Track this
can hardly wait to see her "shed light" on Robert Rodriguez.

Sin City, a film dedicated to the cruelest, most demeaning depictions imaginable. Sixty million dollars and the finest of technology brought to bear on the beating, torture and rape of women, including an 11-year-old girl.

Next?


[info]jammybottoms
2006-06-10 06:32 pm UTC (link) Track this
And unless I saw a different movie, the 11 year old girl was not raped.


[info]karen_strang
2006-06-10 08:16 pm UTC (link) Track this
I can't say for sure. I didn't see it.


***

That is pure genius, right there.

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[info]skewed_tartan
2006-10-30 10:05 am UTC (link)
I think she's the kind of crazy that needs to latch onto something like a starving leech to sustain herself mentally. For some its aliens, others the goveremnt, for her its a G-list celebrity.

Poor poor Urbaniak. If I was him I get a restraining order because god damn that is some prime bat shit.

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(no subject) - [info]kalicephirot, 2006-10-31 06:01 am UTC

[info]charmian
2006-10-30 10:08 am UTC (link)
I wish my aunt were a hotshot publishing agent in NY so I could get my LJ rants published. :(

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[info]lovelypoet
2006-10-30 10:13 am UTC (link)
I'm just going to be over here in the corner twitching and frothing at the mouth.

No seriously... an academic making the DEAL FOR THE BOOK before starting the writing? She goes in already sure of what her conclusions are going to be? If I tried that with my thesis I'm pretty sure my chair would bitchslap me from here to Neptune.

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[info]radiotrash
2006-10-30 10:13 am UTC (link)
The whole twin debate kinda makes my head hurt.

OH WAIT I GET IT. ITS GODS FAULT WOMEN CANT CHOOSE AND GOD IS MALE AND THEREFOR EVIL CAUSE HE MADE US NOT CHOOSY ABOUT THE BABY THINGS.

*explodes*

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[info]madmouth
2006-10-30 10:19 am UTC (link)
Soon the day will come when karen_strang has sex with ginmar, and (as is right and proper) without male insemination, a child will be born whose unpredecented dragon's-breath rhetoric will after each word reduce scores of sane brains into quivering puddles, never to recover.
How I fear it.



Also, alleging Tom Cruise is a rapist and torturer on a large, public, semi-official site...Not that it's way out in left field, butdoesn't she know he sues people for these things?

o.o

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[info]elektra3
2006-10-30 10:24 am UTC (link)
Well of course you cannot choose. That's how men like it.

Dear lunatic "feminist",

GET THE FUCK OFF MY SIDE. And since when was it in any way feminist to say that a woman's bad choices (or biology) are a man's responsibility?

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[info]delcj
2006-10-30 10:40 am UTC (link)
jeremystrang's comment made me smile.

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[info]hyaenid
2006-10-30 10:46 am UTC (link)
James Urbaniak has suborned the will of his spouse and forced her to produce not one child but two. In today's blog entry, he poses one of those children, the boy (of course), with a copy of the new Venture Bros. DVD. The DVD cover prominently features a large white skull.

Even in the cradle, he's saying, it is appropriate to laugh about death. Because death is funny. Ha ha. Death and the waste of resources.


No way is she for real. That last bit's too funny for truthiness.

And if it is real, then I'll be over here, weeping gently as this wank finally breaks me.


Dear Lord, but my language skillz are not strong tonight

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[info]wickedchild
2006-10-30 10:48 am UTC (link)
Someone takes herself too seriously.

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[info]flowerstar
2006-10-30 10:55 am UTC (link)
... She is glad the men who build her house are dead?

NEWSFLASH, MS. STRANGE: Most mysoginists don't want all women to die! So how exactly are you better than them, being glad that some men are dead who never did anything to you, except giving you a home so you don't have to live on the streets?

*head asplode*


Okay, I'm better now. Mr. Urbaniak should never have gotten that much engaged with her, but if I had to pick a side, I'd choose his. Less batshit and more of something which resembles a sense of humour.

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[info]pinkgundam
2006-10-30 11:07 am UTC (link)
Ingmar Bergman is one of the "egregious woman-haters of America's culture" - I didn't know he was American, or that he had a huge effect on American culture.

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[info]innsmouth_eyes
2006-10-30 11:48 am UTC (link)
She's actually writing a book about him. Gah. No, she's not trying to wring every drop of blood from this feud. For somebody who likes to fling insults like "smallest cultural grain of sand", she sure does seem to be desperate for attention. Somebody should let her know that the Dworkin method of feminism is a little out of date.

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[info]themadfish
2006-10-30 11:54 am UTC (link)
Her writing style annoys me.

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[info]aerobot
2006-10-30 12:58 pm UTC (link)
I, the daughter of a man, wake up in a bed designed and built by men, inside a house designed and built by men (dead men, at least, thank Gaya for small favors) eat food grown and packaged and marketed by men, am driven to class in a world-killing vehicle designed, built, and marketed by men to a municipal government run entirely by men. Class is held in a university governed almost entirely by men. Assuming I get through this day-long assault, I then, quite reasonably I think, seek relaxation, entertainment and perhaps even enlightenment from the various purveyors of artistic endeavor. And what do I find? A "world of show" run entirely by men, where the "product" available to me reinforces, at every turn, my secondary status in society, and my disposability as a human being. Even the books by women are published by companies run exclusively by men, to line the pockets of men. How could the pure, sure, undiluted thoughts of a real woman ever hope to exist in such a world? Sei Shonagon and Laurie Anderson are minstrels, selling the "idea" of a woman's thoughts to a public who doesn't know what a woman is.

So apparently she's being 'assaulted' by men every day because ... they simply exist. 'K.

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[info]verpon
2006-10-30 01:37 pm UTC (link)
I'm of the opinion that this is some form of sockpuppet. Admittedly it would have to be a dedicated sockpuppet considering it has managed to keep banging its drum almost relentlessly since June and I wouldn't be able to say why someone would want to make up such a character and play them into the ground so much.

The twin comment, the hyperlink violating tool of the patriarchy, wanting men to die because they're men. All that kind of stuff just makes me think it's an overblown parody someone has cooked up.

Of course the other explanation is that there actually is someone who has managed to reach exciting new depths of batshit and frothing rage but miraculously maintain an ability to form words and not explode from nuttiness

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[info]fevered_ego
2006-10-30 01:52 pm UTC (link)
My goals do not include [...] making more babies.

It's like...
It's like her genes know.

But in all seriousness, I call troll. A+++ on the characterization.



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[info]thoms
2006-10-30 03:18 pm UTC (link)
...

.......

WHAT?

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[info]stinksap
2006-10-30 03:23 pm UTC (link)
I think it's a fake too- or if it is a sockpuppet of his, a brilliant publicity move, because if this book actually gets out there, or this kerfuffle hits more discussion boards, he's going to get a LOT of exposure.

Don't thay say *all* publicity is good publicity?

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