Log In

Home
    - Create Journal
    - Update
    - Download

LiveJournal
    - News
    - Paid Accounts
    - Contributors

Customize
    - Customize Journal
    - Create Style
    - Edit Style

Find Users
    - Random!
    - By Region
    - By Interest
    - Search

Edit ...
    - Personal Info &
      Settings
    - Your Friends
    - Old Entries
    - Your Pictures
    - Your Password

Developer Area

Need Help?
    - Lost Password?
    - Freq. Asked
      Questions
    - Support Area



NM ([info]narcissam) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-11-16 15:28:00


Previous Entry  Add to memories!  Tell a Friend!  Next Entry
Entry tags:fandom: battlestar galactica

To Kit Carson, A Smallpox-Infected Blanket. With love, Geronimo and Crazy Horse
Jacob at Television without Pity recapped the latest episode of Battlestar Galactica. The short spoiler-free version from the front page:

You Got Your Chocolate In My War Crimes!
Battlestar Galactica - You got your martial hypocrisy in my peanut butter! It's an ethical freakout dance party as one side dabbles in sexy torture and the other starts on biological warfare and reciprocal genocide. Nobody looks good, this week, but everybody at least looks beautiful.
Rap541 was apparently immensely disturbed that Jacob was sympathizing with the Cylons. So she wrote a rant about Native Americans and White Men.
"See, you need to look at this from a different persepctive. Indians, American Indians, only became these gentle, spiritual sorts *after* they became a pathetic broken remnant. It was a rare voice in the wilderness indeed that in 1843 was decrying the genocide of the Native Americans. Hell, back then, I think the redskins were viewed as savage half men, half beast. An enemy. An enemy to be destroyed. It was only after the natives were broken - and broken so hard that they will not recover that all of a sudden we started having a conscience about it. We could afford to."
But probably guessing that comparing Native Americans to Cylons might offend somebody, she goes on to say that the Cylons are exactly like white people, and the humans are Native Americans, cue my favourite bit:
"The humans are the Native Americans - the pathetic broken remnant, and the Cylons are the white man. The few humans who escaped in ships? The sad Sioux and Apache sorts that were slowly picked off by the white man, with of course, the white man's slightly superior weapons.

Do you think that Crazy Horse, and Geronimo, et al, would have hesitated for a second to send some "special blankets loaded with Indian goodness and germs" home with Kit Carson if they had the opportunity? Think about it. Maybe over your turkey next week."



Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

(Post a new comment)


[info]embyquinn
2006-11-17 01:02 am UTC (link)
I can't figure out if [info]rap541 is for or against yaoi.

(Reply to this)


[info]abydonian
2006-11-17 01:08 am UTC (link)
You know, when I saw it was BSG wank, I immediately assumed it was about this:

(Beware spoilers)

I could not believe my eyes as a captured Cylon, an African-American man, was escorted to face the humans in chains and poles! As an African-American, I found this scene racist and extremely insensitive.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]isntitironic, 2006-11-17 01:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]abydonian, 2006-11-17 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2006-11-17 01:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2006-11-17 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - tintin, 2006-11-17 02:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackflag, 2006-11-17 05:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]jood, 2006-11-17 09:12 pm UTC
I may as well be the one to say it...
[info]sunqist
2006-11-17 01:12 am UTC (link)
He's interrogating the Cylons from the wrong perspective!

(Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: I may as well be the one to say it... - [info]khym_chanur, 2006-11-17 03:12 am UTC
Re: I may as well be the one to say it... - [info]michmatch, 2006-11-17 03:54 am UTC

iwanttobeasleep
2006-11-17 01:15 am UTC (link)
The more wanks we have about this, the more I want to watch the show, and the more I hate the Blockbuster and Hollywood Video around here for not having it.

(Reply to this)


[info]blue_penguin
2006-11-17 01:16 am UTC (link)
Looks like someone fails at history. Next he'll be telling us that the Native Americans put the white men on reservations.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - buddymt, 2006-11-17 01:27 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]redcoast, 2006-11-17 01:32 am UTC
(no subject) - buddymt, 2006-11-17 10:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blue_penguin, 2006-11-17 01:35 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sheep_n_wolf, 2006-11-17 07:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 01:46 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2006-11-17 11:49 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-11-17 03:57 pm UTC
Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]goblin, 2006-11-17 05:44 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 06:49 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]heddychaa, 2006-11-17 06:55 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 07:11 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]heddychaa, 2006-11-17 07:13 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 07:20 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-11-17 07:36 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 08:28 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-11-17 10:26 pm UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]goblin, 2006-11-18 12:45 am UTC
Re: Beringia Land Bridge... - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-11-19 05:42 pm UTC

[info]okalintu
2006-11-17 01:25 am UTC (link)
The only constructive thing I have to say is that upon seeing Kit Carson's name, I had a sudden urge to re-read my dad's collection of Tex Willers.

Wait, that wasn't constructive. Oh well.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]cactuar_tamer, 2006-11-17 04:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]okalintu, 2006-11-17 10:39 am UTC

[info]grapefruitzzz
2006-11-17 01:26 am UTC (link)
I just want to whine here that BSG fen keep coming to the 'Doctor Who' forum and dropping spoilers all over the place. I'd whine more but I always read them :D




Come to [info]twop_crit where whine is always on the menu!

(Reply to this)


[info]ingrid
2006-11-17 01:34 am UTC (link)
Rap's a gal.

The episode wasn't good enough to wank about or defend either way, IMHO.

That's all I'm sure of. ;)

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 01:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rap541, 2006-11-17 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ingrid, 2006-11-17 02:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rap541, 2006-11-17 02:17 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ingrid, 2006-11-17 02:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rap541, 2006-11-17 02:23 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ingrid, 2006-11-17 02:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rap541, 2006-11-17 02:38 am UTC

[info]tez
2006-11-17 01:46 am UTC (link)
Every time I see wank about this show it makes me giggle. Then it makes me nostalgic for the original series when the religious overtones were bashed over your head repeatedly.

(Reply to this)


[info]willywanka
2006-11-17 01:50 am UTC (link)
Think about it. Maybe over your turkey next week.

Harry and Draco didn't think about it, and look what happened to them. Let it be a lesson to you all!

*work-safe
**scroll down for img

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]cork118, 2006-11-17 01:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2006-11-19 06:40 am UTC

[info]kijikun
2006-11-17 01:59 am UTC (link)
Not even the goggles make this better.

(Reply to this)


[info]demonbean
2006-11-17 02:49 am UTC (link)
"The humans are the Native Americans - the pathetic broken remnant, and the Cylons are the white man. The few humans who escaped in ships? The sad Sioux and Apache sorts that were slowly picked off by the white man, with of course, the white man's slightly superior weapons."

Wait, so she's angry that someone's sympathising with the Cylons, even though she's just said that they can't really afford to be nice to humans because we aren't broken enough yet. I think. I'm so confused. Wait, maybe she means that they should be nice, because we are broken...?

Also, "redskins"? Very last century.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]msmongi, 2006-11-17 04:10 am UTC

[info]m_butterfly
2006-11-17 03:05 am UTC (link)
*blinks*

*checks the comments*

*blinks*

Okay, so now people can't bitch about the recappers on their own LJs, either?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]ingrid, 2006-11-17 03:22 am UTC
For The Love Of Neolin!
[info]puckity
2006-11-17 03:12 am UTC (link)
All this wank makes me want to do is start lecturing at large on how the whole smallpox blanket-thing occurred with tribes in the Ohio Valley a hundred years before Crazy Horse and Geronimo were even born. Not that the Plains Indians…who included the Sioux nation but not the Apache…weren’t on the receiving end of their fair share of dirty guerrilla tactics, but come on. General Amhurst, people!

*really shouldn’t have taken that course in the history of North American tribes this semester*

Oh wait…BSG? Do I even watch this show?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: For The Love Of Neolin! - [info]life_on_mars, 2006-11-17 07:22 am UTC
Re: For The Love Of Neolin! - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 06:24 pm UTC
Re: For The Love Of Neolin! - [info]onaga, 2006-11-17 07:51 pm UTC
Re: For The Love Of Neolin! - [info]puckity, 2006-11-18 12:28 am UTC
Re: For The Love Of Neolin! - [info]varkias, 2006-11-18 02:41 pm UTC

[info]kijikun
2006-11-17 03:13 am UTC (link)
And hey, leave Kit Carson out of this! He'd be too busy watching Doctor Who if he was alive to care about BSG or your silly wank.

/supposedly realted to him

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]cheshireempress, 2006-11-18 12:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kijikun, 2006-11-18 03:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]nathalie, 2006-11-26 12:28 am UTC

[info]skarrow
2006-11-17 03:23 am UTC (link)
First impression:
Oh, god, shut up about the Indians. Single tear. Eagle.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]embyquinn, 2006-11-17 05:31 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2006-11-17 05:33 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sunqist, 2006-11-17 08:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]influencethis, 2006-11-17 01:24 pm UTC
*plays the world's smallest didgeridoo* - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-11-17 04:00 pm UTC

[info]shadowkitty
2006-11-17 03:25 am UTC (link)
Are Jacob's BSG recaps any good? Only his Doctor Who ones tend to be incredibly pretentious an acquired taste.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]darkstarrie, 2006-11-17 03:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bastet, 2006-11-17 06:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkstarrie, 2006-11-17 06:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bastet, 2006-11-17 06:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]sunqist, 2006-11-17 08:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-11-18 12:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iamtheenemy, 2006-11-18 02:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ayezur, 2006-11-17 04:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]shadowkitty, 2006-11-17 04:16 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ayezur, 2006-11-17 04:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2006-11-17 11:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ayezur, 2006-11-17 02:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lady7jane, 2006-11-17 09:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]momcat, 2006-11-17 10:39 pm UTC

[info]mmanurere
2006-11-17 03:25 am UTC (link)
It was only after the natives were broken - and broken so hard that they will not recover that all of a sudden we started having a conscience about it. We could afford to.

Before that, Native Americans were just too much of a threat to our very existence, of course. I mean, they were all over our land!

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-11-17 04:01 pm UTC

sockpuppet_rat
2006-11-17 03:27 am UTC (link)
I wish this wank was about Adama's pimp mustache and Saul's grizzled-old-sea-dog style.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]fionnabhair, 2006-11-17 03:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]m_butterfly, 2006-11-17 03:48 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]breecita, 2006-11-17 05:54 am UTC

[info]morwyn
2006-11-17 03:41 am UTC (link)
I'm just going to pretend it's a subtle shout-out to the South Park episode where the Indian casino owners give the South Park citizens blankets infected with SARS. Man, that was a good episode! Thanks for reminding me!

(Reply to this)


[info]frequentmouse
2006-11-17 04:04 am UTC (link)
Anyone who makes generalizations about Indians as if they were a single cohesive group about which any meaningful general statement can be made needs to be center stage at a Sundance, without any mental preparation.

Or, you know, captured by Xylons.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-11-17 04:06 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]solar_boat, 2006-11-17 04:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-11-17 05:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]loraineee, 2006-11-17 08:29 am UTC

[info]melisus
2006-11-17 04:08 am UTC (link)
The history major in me is weeping at her comparison.

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]frequentmouse, 2006-11-17 04:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]quettaser, 2006-11-17 05:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]embyquinn, 2006-11-17 06:19 am UTC

[info]ayezur
2006-11-17 04:10 am UTC (link)
I have no idea what's going on. Who's the Native Americans now?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2006-11-17 06:30 pm UTC

[info]rotten_fish
2006-11-17 04:18 am UTC (link)
Oh, hey, that person again! Weren't they in the BP posts raising a stink about us being mean or something or other?

(Reply to this)(Thread)

(no subject) - [info]puipui, 2006-11-17 05:13 am UTC

[info]seldomnaughty
2006-11-17 05:17 am UTC (link)
Ah, tis the season. No time like the time right before Thanksgiving to start pulling out the Native Americans as a wild card for oppression wank.

(Reply to this)



Page 1 of 2
<<[1] [2] >>

 
   
Privacy Policy - COPPA
Legal Disclaimer - Site Map