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theorangesun ([info]theorangesun) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-11-18 20:10:00


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Entry tags:community: fanficrants, fandom: final fantasy xii

Because fanficrants is serious business, you stupid cunt!
[info]arcesso makes a post in [info]fanficrants complaining about the poor quality of the Final Fantasy Twelve fic she has seen. Included in her list of complaints is this lovely gem, which...seems to have pushed a few buttons:

How is it that there are twice as many incest fics as Vaanelo fics already? THIS FANDOM HAS ALREADY GONE TO HELL, AND HALF THE FANBASE ISN'T IN IT, YET.

As expected, [info]fanficrants explodes.


Here:
[info]candywrapper Seriously, I don't give a flying fuck if you think it's disgusting, because in fic, it's something I like to read about and you've no right to judge that.
Also, unless it's been removed, incest rants (though it's only a small part of your rant) are against the rules.

...
[info]arcesso I didn't insult it. I said I disagree with it. Perhaps I should have elaborated. Usually when a fandom starts out with fiction that's incestuous, kinky, or gay, it will swing to the obnoxious side of fandom (I know this from experience) and wind up like Yuugiou. Which, I far from enjoy being a part of anymore.
[info]nissinirvaniSo now gay is bad as well? My that's a nice hole your digging there.

And later:

[info]candywrapper: I started in on you? Bitch please, my first comment was politely wondering since I didn't want to offend you in case I was misreading shit.
[info]arcesso:I didn't say your first post was offensive, but after I said I was religious you immediately decided I was an extremist who was to be sworn at and not worth listening to? I was trying to explain myself and you jump in "WELL I DON'T GIVE A FLYING FUCK" that's not polite, not at all.

*paid, by the way. And I joined AFTER the incest shit happened, so forgive me, oh great one, for not reading back MONTHS of entries.

[info]candywrapper:Oh bullshit. I did no such thing.
Fucking hell that is some of the biggest bullshit I have ever heard. My fiancée is deeply religious and I never ever insult people over their religion. but you'd know jack shit about that, hmm, since you go around assuming that's why I did it.
I don't really care much for politeness. Cursing's a big part of my every day vocabulary.The people I censore myself for are few and far between

And payed is correct, you stupid cunt.
You could always just read the rules. It warns about ranting about incest.




[info]arcesso edits her post:
EDIT: I DO NOT MEAN TO OFFEND INCEST!FANS WITH THIS. I have observed, in Yuugiou and others, that when a fandom starts out with odd things (not necessarily BAD things) like incest, kinks, m-preg as the majority, it tends to only get weirder and winds up (as aforementioned) like Yuugiou which is a less-than-marvelous fandom.
Alas, the damage has already been done.

EDIT-- Huh. Well, this is strange. As you may have noticed, there's another report of this wank right below this one. I've been told to just leave this post alone and let the mods decide about deletion and whatnot, so I think I'm going to do that.



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[info]blackjackrocket
2006-11-19 03:38 am UTC (link)
Looks like we had the same idea.

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(no subject) - [info]theorangesun, 2006-11-19 03:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blackjackrocket, 2006-11-19 03:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2006-11-19 03:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]theorangesun, 2006-11-19 03:45 am UTC

[info]vuirneen
2006-11-19 03:49 am UTC (link)
Wow. Second time in a row.

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[info]quettaser
2006-11-19 03:50 am UTC (link)
*hums to self* Fill my eyes with that double vision, no disguise for that double vision

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(no subject) - [info]dark_puck, 2006-11-19 04:49 am UTC

[info]scarah2
2006-11-19 03:54 am UTC (link)
LOL dictionary.com has their index numbers screwed up I think. Webster has it right.

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[info]oulangi
2006-11-19 03:56 am UTC (link)
Personally I tend to think a fandoms gone to hell when fans start whipping out their gay cred cards. Or maybe that's when I want fans to go to hell - either works actually.

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(no subject) - [info]scarah2, 2006-11-19 04:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2006-11-19 04:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2006-11-19 11:18 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oulangi, 2006-11-19 11:24 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2006-11-19 11:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]chrome327, 2006-11-19 06:03 pm UTC

[info]churri
2006-11-19 04:13 am UTC (link)
*chants*

In-cest is best! Put your brother to the test!

*flees*

(And as far as FF12 goes, Vaanelo's an, um, odd pairing to use when dissing incest. They were kind of raised as siblings once Vaan's parents died...)

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(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2006-11-19 04:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]churri, 2006-11-19 04:43 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]selphiroth, 2006-11-19 06:25 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2006-11-19 08:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]figgy, 2006-11-21 03:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]tronella, 2006-11-19 12:59 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]iczer6, 2006-11-19 01:03 pm UTC

[info]oxydosic
2006-11-19 04:45 am UTC (link)
Wow, incest fic never even crossed my mind for FFXII. I am bemoaning the lack of FFXII fic in general, I've already looked at fanfiction.net and adultfanfiction.net and not much is up. Anyone got any other sites?

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(no subject) - [info]deadgayrobin, 2006-11-19 05:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2006-11-19 08:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2006-11-19 10:06 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2006-11-19 04:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-11-19 06:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2006-11-19 09:25 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-11-19 09:55 pm UTC

[info]mariagoner
2006-11-19 05:54 am UTC (link)
I feel truly torn. I'm no stranger to incestfic and have even dabbled in it a bit (NejiXHinata is my Naruto OTP, baby! Who care if she's, technically speaking, his half sister?!) But the Larsa/Vayne fic I've read so far is so *squicky.* Larsa is all of, what, 12 years old? And I can't let go of the nagging feeling that when Vayne molests his younger brother, the author wants me to find it cute... ::shudder::

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(no subject) - [info]selphiroth, 2006-11-19 06:28 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 10:37 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]artimusdin, 2006-11-19 03:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 11:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]artimusdin, 2006-11-20 02:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2006-11-20 05:56 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-11-19 07:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2006-11-20 05:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kaiser_chan, 2006-11-20 09:48 am UTC

[info]judyhazeleyes
2006-11-19 06:14 am UTC (link)
Oh, honestly. LJ is a big place - why doesn't this twit just start a community for whatever pairing it is she likes? If it's a relatively new fandom, she could even get in on the ground floor and become a BNF! OH JOYZ!

Or, you know, keep writing what she likes and stay on the periphery of the "obnoxious" fandom. I write for tons of shows/books/pairings, and I've never gotten into fandom in a big way.

Oh no. Am I using earth logic again?

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(no subject) - [info]life_on_mars, 2006-11-19 08:03 am UTC

[info]hypno_jango
2006-11-19 06:34 am UTC (link)
it tends to only get weirder and winds up (as aforementioned) like Yuugiou which is a less-than-marvelous fandom.

Wait, there are fandoms that are actually marvelous? I can't think of a fandom I was in that I didn't want to beat some stupid, obnoxious fan with a 2X4 if I had the chance.

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(no subject) - [info]ianthefira, 2006-11-19 07:26 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]luna_hoshino, 2006-11-19 08:55 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-11-19 05:38 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2006-11-19 11:20 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kinneas, 2006-11-21 04:12 am UTC

[info]stupid_fangirl
2006-11-19 08:46 am UTC (link)
1.) And if you don't have all the information, how can you accurately theorize other possibilties, or build off of it?

... Did she realize that many YGO fanfics started and finished before AE eps in manga?

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(no subject) - [info]rekall, 2006-11-19 09:44 am UTC
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(no subject) - bardicsidhe, 2006-11-19 06:58 pm UTC

[info]rekall
2006-11-19 09:43 am UTC (link)
Incest and Final Fantasy is nothing new. I remember back being 12 years old and thinking that Edgar and Sabin were totally in love. Ahh...my first slash pair...there wasn't even an Internet back then to corrupt my then innocent mind.

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(no subject) - [info]tez, 2006-11-19 11:21 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2006-11-19 05:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]theladyfeylene, 2006-11-20 05:25 am UTC

[info]aerobot
2006-11-19 09:57 am UTC (link)
So if fanfic stayed straight, non-kinky and totally normal, fandom will never be obnoxious.

*looks at her fandoms*

... Uh huh.

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(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 10:38 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]aerobot, 2006-11-19 01:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 11:16 pm UTC

[info]blue_penguin
2006-11-19 11:07 am UTC (link)
Gotta love the backtracking. "I'm not saying that incest fics are bad, I'm just saying that as soon as they show up, the fandom goes to hell!" (And the difference is...?)

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[info]tez
2006-11-19 11:23 am UTC (link)
*ticks off qualifiers on her fingers* Incest = check, saw Quincest earlier today. Mpreg = check, saw a totally bonkers one on aff.net and don't get me STARTED on the arrancar debacle. Kinks = well, Ichimaru's one big kink so check.

Sweet, the Bleach fandom's gone to hell!

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(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2006-11-19 10:09 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]tez, 2006-11-19 10:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 11:19 pm UTC

[info]ladyofviolets
2006-11-19 03:46 pm UTC (link)
* stares at her stash of (het *and* slash) Fujicest and Kaorucest fics *

* prays this OP never reaches Prince of tennis or Utena fandoms *

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(no subject) - [info]ladyofviolets, 2006-11-19 03:48 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2006-11-19 05:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]stupid_fangirl, 2006-11-19 05:14 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 11:08 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2006-11-19 05:37 pm UTC (link)
"I'm not saying that incest fic is bad or anything, just that it warp's people's minds, corrupts a fandom into depravity, and completely destroys all thta is light and good on the internet. This isn't an opinion -- it's fact!"

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[info]freezer
2006-11-19 05:45 pm UTC (link)
"...umm, honestly? I do believe so. Not ONLY because I'm religious, but because I find that having sexual relations with your sibling is disgusting. There's a reason it breeds deformities. :| It's not supposed to happen."

Wrong and wrongheaded.

Actually, the genetic abnormalities and deficiencies associated with inbreeding wouldn't occur until the second generation (I.e.: close blood-relations have kids and those kids have kids together). So incestious procreation - while not what I'd consider a good idea - isn't dangerous in and of itself (unless both parties carry traits for inheritable diseases.)

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(no subject) - [info]ilpalazzo, 2006-11-19 11:12 pm UTC
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[info]sugartits
2006-11-19 06:08 pm UTC (link)
Actually, there ARE people on the internet that aren't entirely obnoxious, condescending assholes who think that there's no use asking about yaoi since clearly everyone agrees.

I hope [info]paperclipchains sticks around FFR for a good long while. This remark, coupled with yesterday's wank, just shows how much potential for hilarity s/h/it has. OMG, asking someone's thoughts on yaoi is so insensitive and yaoi-centric!

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(no subject) - [info]thesilentsenshi, 2006-11-19 11:02 pm UTC

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[info]ilpalazzo
2006-11-19 11:03 pm UTC (link)
I just started playing the game, and I'm already wishing Tomaj had a brother (maybe two brothers? Tomoz and Tomzoo? Har-dee-har) so I could give him some hot incestuous lovin'. He's so fly.

Ah, Tomaj. Work that Sandsea bounty board like it wants to be worked.

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[info]manasseh
2006-11-20 03:36 am UTC (link)
I have observed, in Yuugiou and others, that when a fandom starts out with odd things (not necessarily BAD things) like incest, kinks, m-preg as the majority, it tends to only get weirder

The only fandom I can think of where I've seen this happen is Supernatural. Started off with bro-loving, ended up with non-con yak-fucking. She should count her lucky stars that FFXII hasn't gotten to the chocobo sex yet.

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(no subject) - [info]kaiser_chan, 2006-11-20 09:27 am UTC
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(no subject) - janegray, 2006-11-21 11:47 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]manasseh, 2006-11-22 01:27 pm UTC

[info]snowevingerhut
2006-11-20 03:41 am UTC (link)
I love it when someone claims they don't give a shit about another person's opinion and then PROCEED TO RAM ASSHOLE REPEATEDLY INTO THE FUCKING GROUND WHILE SCREAMING OBVIOUSLY COLD UNCARING FUCKSHIT WORDS OF LOVE into said person's ear. (At least I think that's what happened. I sorta went back and forth between subthreads.)

That thread was worth the read. Thank you and [info]blackjackrocket for linking to it.

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[info]kaiser_chan
2006-11-20 09:29 am UTC (link)
I just found that Vayne/Larsa fic myself, actually.

As clever as the term Solidorcest is, am I the only one who wants more information on the two dead brothers so that I won't have to put Larsa in compromising positions?

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(no subject) - [info]mariagoner, 2006-11-21 03:48 am UTC
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[info]seiberwing
2006-11-20 09:09 pm UTC (link)
She's like the Energizer wanker...

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