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varia_lectio ([info]varia_lectio) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-11-18 20:33:00


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Current mood:Fantastico
Current music:"Cops" on TV
Entry tags:fandom: sopranos

One man against the "Mafia Minstrel Show": Solo "Sopranos" wank
(Please note: the author of this article is well within his rights to not enjoy "The Sopranos" and not want to watch it. However, I still think this article is incredibly, incredibly wanky.)

Steve Antonuccio wants us to know that any American of Italian descent making money off a novel, movie, or TV show about the Mafia is a RACE TRAITOR!!! and are defaming their heritage! Also, how the "Sopranos" has irrevocably riven the Italian-American community!

The Legacy of the Mafia Minstel Show
by
Steve Antonuccio


Which, of course, was not inspired in any way, shape, or form by the fact that there actually is/was an Italian Mafia.

...My daughter comes homes from school, about the same time The Sopranos was released on HBO, complaining that some kids at school were teasing her and calling her "Mafia Girl."

As if hateful bullying or teasing someone because they're different is anything new.

   I wish I could say that things have gotten better for Italian Americans and how they are portrayed in popular television and film in the last 70 years, but unfortunately I think it has actually gotten worse.  What I call the Mafia Minstrel Show, actors in olive skin face playing mobster for the benefit of those people who lust for violence and racism, is now as insidious as lice.

"Olive skin face"? Now I'm imagining the entire cast of "The Sopranos" as being black actors who're made up to look Italian, ala "White Girls"...

Let's see...

Most of the "Sopranos" cast... TOTALLY NOT ITALIAN! They just play them on the TV show!

Several notable cast members in "The Godfather" films, among them Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, and Francis Ford Coppola's various and sundry family members... TOTALLY NOT ITALIAN! (Actually, De Niro is 3/4 Irish, 1/4 Italian, so he is MOSTLY NOT ITALIAN!)

Chazz Palminteri, who wrote and starred in "A Bronx Tale" AS A MOBSTER... TOTALLY NOT ITALIAN!

  Thanks to our friends at HBO, the Mafia Minstrel Show has been legitimized as a mainstream genre, not unlike westerns or love stories.

Uh, it was legitimized in the early 70's with "The Godfather" film, if not earlier.

So why has the Mafia Minstrel Show survived for the past 70 years?  It is very simple, IT MAKES MONEY!!!!!

And it's about rich, powerful crime families, which people would be fascinated with no matter if the crime families in question were Italians, Germans, or Martians from outer space. 

I remember reading the obituary for Mario Puzo.  It listed the sales of his books, his wonderful novel about Italian American immigrants, The Fortunate Pilgrim, had sold maybe 10,000 copies and The Godfather, a novel that featured the Mafia Minstrel Show, had sold 15 million copies.  Mario Puzo, a man who admitted he had never known a gangster before he wrote The Godfather, obviously was given a lot of cash to write a novel about the Mafia Minstrel Show.  Just like David Chase, a man who originally wanted to tell a simple story about his relationship with his Mother, was given a lot of cash to add gangsters, gratuitous sex, and gratuitous violence to turn his simple story into something completely different. Both men talented Italian American storytellers, both men seduced by the almighty dollar into selling out their heritage.

Personally, I find this guy's insinuations that Italian-American writers/actors who merely write about or play a mobster are "selling out their heritage" rather disturbing. It screams of "RACE TRAIT0R!!11!111!" to me. I also wonder if he would find movies about non-Italian gangs ("Gangs of New York", "Road to Perdition") as offensive as "The Godfather" or "The Sopranos". After all, aren't those films just as prejudiced against the poor Irish mobsters immigrants?

Article can be found here: http://www.uvm.edu/~arosa/antonuccio.html



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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-11-19 04:13 am UTC (link)
You really should have made that left turn at [info]fandom_rant.

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[info]varia_lectio
2006-11-19 04:50 am UTC (link)
I've never been to fandom_rant before this... I guess I came off as being a bit ranty. (Sorry; was just a lame attempt to be funny). But Steve Antonuccio's wanking was meant to be the main thing of the post. My fault if it wasn't.

It got approved by the mods, though, so I assumed the subject matter was wanky enough. I might post it at fandom_wank, though.

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[info]varia_lectio
2006-11-19 04:51 am UTC (link)
*meant fandom_rant in that last line*

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[info]nymeria
2006-11-19 04:59 am UTC (link)
Getting approved by the mods simply means your post wasn't large blocks of repeated 'FUCK F_WANK' over and over, or spam of scat fetish.

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[info]livii
2006-11-19 04:21 am UTC (link)
Another vote for [info]fandom_rant, plz and thankewe.

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[info]keri
2006-11-19 06:26 am UTC (link)
I was hoping that when I clicked on "read more..." you'd be listing more NOT ITALIANS who starred as mobsters. I am seriously disappointed, yo.

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[info]pokecheck
2006-11-19 08:08 am UTC (link)
I'm not Italian. But I'm not a mobster either.

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[info]blackjackrocket
2006-11-19 09:23 am UTC (link)
Well, there's always John Leguizamo. He's Columbian.

...mmm, John Leguizamo...

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[info]heddychaa
2006-11-25 08:54 am UTC (link)
indeed.

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[info]splorch
2006-11-19 02:53 pm UTC (link)
Christian Slater as Lucky Luciano and Costas Mandylor as Frank Costello in Mobsters! Bonus: Richard Grieco as Bugsy Siegel, which was an interesting direction.

Unless you meant in good mob movies, in which case, I got nothin'. Just the pretty. (Oh, and Michael Gambon was in it too. That dude is everywhere. LOVE.)

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[info]varia_lectio
2006-11-19 07:24 pm UTC (link)
After I posted, I realized I'd completely forgotten Martin Scorsese, which is weird because I love his mobster films.

Oh, and Joe Pesci.

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[info]feenix
2006-11-19 07:25 pm UTC (link)
This reminds me of the time when "The Sopranos" was banned from filming in my county entirely. (If I recall, there were some scenes filmed in my town.)

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[info]hickorydickory
2006-11-19 10:04 pm UTC (link)
This is why I don't like 90% of other Italian Americans. We're not that oppressed, really.

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[info]melisus
2006-11-19 10:34 pm UTC (link)
Personally, if I'd been given the name "Mafia Girl" I'd be quite happy and exploit it to my full advantage. Unfortunately, I don't look at all Italian and therefore have never gotten such a reputation. *is sad*

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[info]lady7jane
2006-11-19 11:01 pm UTC (link)
Aww. Maybe you could be the TOTALLY NOT ITALIAN! Girl? Together with Mafia Girl you could even fight crime.

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[info]melisus
2006-11-19 11:02 pm UTC (link)
That would be awesome. Except I AM Italian (on my father's side). I just inherited my mother's Irish red hair. Woe is me!

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[info]suzycat
2006-11-20 09:57 am UTC (link)
But this is better! Now you can be stereotypically violent, sentimental and oppressed on BOTH sides!

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[info]rachel_pi
2006-11-20 02:44 am UTC (link)
Seriously, I would have had so much fun making people think my family really was in the Mafia. XD (And I have old timey pictures of my great-uncle with a lot of people who very much look like they were mafiosi for real).

And yet I inherited my mom's looks, but not the Italian skin tone. Boo.

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[info]gal_montag
2006-11-19 10:45 pm UTC (link)
*face palm* This dude has *got* to be kidding.

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[info]ayezur
2006-11-20 04:25 am UTC (link)
Because it's not like the Mafia is a significant part of Italian-American cultural history or anything like that.

Of course, I have less Italy in me than Olive Garden, so yeah.

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janegray
2006-11-21 11:54 pm UTC (link)
Unfortunately, Mafia is a significant part of Italian present. We haven't gotten rid of it yet, it's as powerful as ever.

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[info]suzycat
2006-11-20 10:01 am UTC (link)
What I'm reading here is the poor, gentle, motherloving Italian Americans with their beautiful melodious names and histories of Fascist-fighting, are, tragically, huge suckers for the cash and happily sell out their People because it pays well.

I do not think this is what this guy intended.

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[info]apoplexia
2006-11-20 10:15 am UTC (link)
"wife beater"? I can only assume he's referring to Tony's penchant for singlets.

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[info]txvoodoo
2006-11-20 06:46 pm UTC (link)
This guy's about 6-7 years late to the party. The Knights of Columbus etc all made a big stink back when the show debuted. And then people kept watching.

Also, "The Fortunate Pilgram" sucked. Honestly, a lot of Puzo's books did - but they translate VERY well to the visual medium.

And his view of David Chase's descent into corporate sellout-dom is highly overrated. The man added a Sicilian family vendetta storyline to Northern Exposure, for heaven's sake. And wrote for the original "Kolchak: The Night Stalker."

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[info]semiotics
2006-11-20 09:13 pm UTC (link)
Dude, even The Godfather was a pretty awful book.

I mean, I read that book in the seventh grade so all I really remember is the dude with the extra-long dick and the bridesmaid with the extra-deep vagina and how they had the most fulfilling sex of their lives at his wedding. Or something like that. And then, near the end, the doctor fixes the former bridesmaid's vagina and then has sex with her.

Also the "cupid-shaped mouths". There were a lot of those. How can a mouth be shaped like a cupid? That bothered me when I was twelve.

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rachelthedemon
2006-11-20 07:34 pm UTC (link)
WEER IN UR MOVIES! MAKIN U LOOK BAD!

*is a third-gen half-blooded Italian for the record*

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[info]chibicurmudgeon
2006-11-22 08:24 am UTC (link)
Bitch, per favore. There are far worse stereotypes than being well-dressed criminals.

*is Polish, and teh smrt, thankyouverymuch*

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