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Eilan (eilan) wrote in fandom_wank,
@ 2006-11-20 17:26:00

Entry tags:

conspiracy theories, fan theories, religion, reviews

Happy Feet is an Evil Propaganda Movie.
Yes, you read that correctly, but let me repeat it:

Happy Feet is an Evil Propaganda Movie

Well what if I were to tell you that the overall metaphor, that the overall themes of Happy Feet are that of A) there is nothing wrong with individuality, that society can actually benefit from it, B) the ecological devastation unknowingly caused by man on the environment and the need to stop it, C) the evils of keeping animals in captivity, D) it being okay to defy your elders for the sake of “the truth” and, oh yeah, E) The evils of religion. Wait, what? Back up a second. Did I read that right? The…evils…of religion?

As expected, not everyone agrees.

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grrliz
2006-11-20 07:23 pm UTC (link)

I know he said it wasn't a review, so let it be said that was one of the most ridiculous tirades against a film that I've ever seen. Overreacting much? I think what I loved most was that he seemed to think that a) he was the only one who picked up on this stuff [if he's right about one thing, it's that the messages are not overly subtle], but more importantly b) that these messages were inherently bad. *overfishes in his name*

I can't remember what the particular Jurisimprudence Law is called, but somewhere in the comments he pulls the "People are supportive of me and my position in email!" trick, which is amusing. There's also got to be a law for when people play the "I bet the people disagreeing with me haven't seen the movie" card, because bitch, plz. I saw it and disagree, oh noez!

How old is this guy, anyway? His responses in the comment section lead me to believe he is roughly twelve.

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renata_hpjc, 2006-11-21 01:08 am UTC

Sorry Off Topic But... -

major_dallas, 2006-11-21 01:17 am UTC

	demonbean 2006-11-20 07:31 pm UTC (link)
	Go ahead, kids, it's only Kool-Aid. The man may be mostly losing, but that sentence is made of win. (Reply to this)

	redwarrior 2006-11-20 07:34 pm UTC (link)
	Ehh, technically EVERY FILM is propaganda, inasmuch as the creators put their personal bias into their story. [/wank] And I fail to see what's wrong with being an individual. I think this person would be the kind of person that, if they brush with peppermint-flavored toothpaste, would SHIT themselves if they found out someone else used cinnamon. (Reply to this)(Thread)

queencallipygos, 2006-11-20 07:37 pm UTC

paintobscura, 2006-11-21 08:12 pm UTC

	narcissam 2006-11-20 07:36 pm UTC (link)
	oooooooooooooooooooooookaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay backs away slowly from crazy reviewer (Reply to this)

	queencallipygos 2006-11-20 07:38 pm UTC (link)
	The OP said that "kids are smart." And that's true. In fact, kids are probably smart enough to figure out that the "aliens" are in fact humans, and that this isn't a statement about religion at all. Which ultimately means that kids are smarter than this reviewer. (Reply to this)(Thread)

acostilow, 2006-11-20 10:35 pm UTC

smo, 2006-11-21 02:08 am UTC

sandyclaws68, 2006-11-21 06:49 pm UTC

rosehiptea
2006-11-20 07:39 pm UTC (link)

I tried to get my kid to go see this movie, because I didn't think it would bother her that she is way older than the target audience, and she just gave me this look and said "Mommy, I hate to tell you this, but penguins can't dance."

(Presumably she would have the same perspective on the existence of a Great Penguin in the Sky, but maybe I shouldn't take any chances!)

She wants to see "Shut Up and Sing," even though it is rated R, because she really admires the Dixie Chicks. So I guess I'll pick that over some terrible propagranda about dancing penguins.

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capsulekei, 2006-11-20 11:13 pm UTC

marysrose, 2006-11-21 07:05 am UTC

rosehiptea, 2006-11-21 11:26 am UTC

darthmaligna
2006-11-20 07:43 pm UTC (link)

You know, it's so funny that as far as the apparent theme of this movie is concerned, this guy isn't actually far off. The batshit is all in the reaction. Because really, the jabs at organized religion in the film are not subtle. At one point one of the elders calls dancing "pagan" in the midst of an angry tirade. That was a definite double-take moment for me.

The difference is, I liked the theme and found it to be particularly relevant and important at this point in American society. This guy is just fucking insane. Besides, it's not like kids are going to make the connection. They're going to get the idea that yeah, it's okay to be different, but even though they're smart they're not that sophisticated. In any case, I doubt they'll have time to put together any evil, antiestablishment unamerican thoughts during the film with the entire second half being the absolute headtrip that it is.

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narcissam, 2006-11-20 07:48 pm UTC

onaga, 2006-11-20 08:04 pm UTC

(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-11-20 08:11 pm UTC

quettaser, 2006-11-20 08:58 pm UTC

(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2006-11-20 09:00 pm UTC

smo, 2006-11-21 02:11 am UTC

b_jellybean, 2006-11-21 04:32 am UTC

cyndra_falin, 2006-11-21 07:34 am UTC

	semirecluse 2006-11-20 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	Paranoia much? Sounds like somebody got a bad batch. Pssst: it's spelled "propaganda." :) (Reply to this)(Thread)

eilan, 2006-11-20 08:04 pm UTC

	hallidae 2006-11-20 07:52 pm UTC (link)
	::shifty look:: Am I the only one who just wants to see it more because of this? (Reply to this)(Thread)

puipui, 2006-11-20 08:31 pm UTC

tez, 2006-11-20 09:22 pm UTC

ghostmaster, 2006-11-20 10:00 pm UTC

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-11-20 10:22 pm UTC

smo, 2006-11-21 02:12 am UTC

varkias, 2006-11-21 02:30 am UTC

nima_skysong, 2006-11-21 03:19 am UTC

darkrose, 2006-11-21 04:07 am UTC

perletwo, 2006-11-21 09:06 am UTC

sandyclaws68, 2006-11-21 06:55 pm UTC

chibicurmudgeon, 2006-11-22 07:37 am UTC

sabinelagrande, 2006-11-25 10:13 am UTC

isa
2006-11-20 07:55 pm UTC (link)

Having not seen the film, I can only say BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

But never dangerous. Never offensive. Because those are words I reserve for very special films that really, truly, shatter the barrier of what is appropriate in a kids film. Those are words I reserve for films like Happy Feet.

I could have handled grisly murders! I could have handled malevolent dictators glorying in the degredation and misery of the common man! I could have handled cannibalism, facism, mass extinction, torrid cross-species sex! But I WILL NOT CONDONE DANCING PENGUINS!

And stories have always, first and foremost, been great metaphors.

No SHIT! Srsly?

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southerngaelic, 2006-11-20 08:16 pm UTC

grapefruitzzz, 2006-11-20 09:37 pm UTC

thexphial, 2006-11-21 01:51 am UTC

isa, 2006-11-21 02:45 am UTC

hallidae, 2006-11-21 08:20 am UTC

suzycat, 2006-11-21 04:00 am UTC

GIP -

southerngaelic, 2006-11-21 04:01 pm UTC

isa, 2006-11-21 06:42 pm UTC

southerngaelic, 2006-11-21 10:08 pm UTC

monsley, 2006-11-21 04:12 pm UTC

isa, 2006-11-21 06:44 pm UTC

	frequentmouse 2006-11-20 07:57 pm UTC (link)
	Massawrym is one wanky sucker, no doubt about it. But the lurkers support him in Emain, viz: "I've got two dozen thank you mails in my inbox that tells me different." And the commentorss on his MySpaceagree, too. (Reply to this)(Thread)

semirecluse, 2006-11-20 10:06 pm UTC

	tunxeh 2006-11-20 07:57 pm UTC (link)
	I had just posted last night on my own lj that I wonder what the religionists think of the anti-establishment theme involving the stodgy old preacher-penguin. How ... pleasant ... to get an answer so swiftly. (Reply to this)

	well, that's...creepy carlanime 2006-11-20 08:12 pm UTC (link)
	Massa: Your damn right that Myspace is for 14 year old girls. Why else does anyone use it? (Reply to this)(Thread)

Re: well, that's...creepy -

semirecluse, 2006-11-20 08:20 pm UTC

Re: well, that's...creepy -

major_dallas, 2006-11-21 01:19 am UTC

	panthea 2006-11-20 08:15 pm UTC (link)
	My informed, considered review ~~despite not having seen the movie, and having no intention of doing so~~: Real penguins = cute. Animated dancing penguins = fucking scary, yo. (Reply to this)(Thread)

mcity, 2006-11-20 09:27 pm UTC

kijikun, 2006-11-21 03:37 am UTC

(no subject) - timian, 2006-11-21 01:03 pm UTC

koipool, 2006-11-22 02:59 am UTC

	skewed_tartan 2006-11-20 08:30 pm UTC (link)
	Wow what a coicidence, I'm going to see this tonight. Actually I'm releived it has a complex plot instead of just being namby-pamby sweet stuff for an hour and a half. I wonder what this asshole thought of "The Lion King"? ZOMG! ANCESTOR WORSHIP?! IT THREATENS SOSCIETY!!!!11!!!hfwiud3jwae! (Reply to this)(Thread)

paintobscura, 2006-11-21 08:19 pm UTC

	exdee 2006-11-20 08:40 pm UTC (link)
	The only reason my brother and I are going is because of Robin Williams, because we have this fervent hope that he will someday be funny again. We'll probably be more disenchanted when our admittedly-high expectations belly-flop than with any nonsense about society or religion or whatever... (Reply to this)(Thread)

ghostmaster, 2006-11-20 10:03 pm UTC

(no subject) - iwanttobeasleep, 2006-11-20 10:26 pm UTC

exdee, 2006-11-20 10:28 pm UTC

ghostmaster, 2006-11-20 11:53 pm UTC

frequentmouse, 2006-11-21 01:35 am UTC

ghostmaster, 2006-11-21 03:02 am UTC

renata_hpjc, 2006-11-21 02:22 am UTC

hallidae, 2006-11-21 08:25 am UTC

gmth, 2006-11-21 04:23 am UTC

perletwo, 2006-11-21 09:10 am UTC

	ladysorka 2006-11-20 08:56 pm UTC (link)
	Is anyone else trying to figure out why we're supposed to think that any of those themes are bad? Hell, if I had kids, that tirade would make me want to take them. (Reply to this)

	itsirtou 2006-11-20 09:05 pm UTC (link)
	Wow, if he flips his shit over something that "blatant," I'd love to see how bad he'd crap his pants over Fern Gulley. (Tim Curry, you are a god.) (Reply to this)(Thread)

quettaser, 2006-11-20 09:13 pm UTC

itsirtou, 2006-11-20 09:16 pm UTC

darkrose, 2006-11-21 04:09 am UTC

kats_kradle, 2006-11-24 01:04 am UTC

ayezur, 2006-11-20 09:19 pm UTC

ghostmaster, 2006-11-20 10:04 pm UTC

froda_baggins, 2006-11-21 01:20 am UTC

alpheratz, 2006-11-21 03:40 am UTC

your_face, 2006-11-21 03:45 am UTC

oar, 2006-11-20 09:33 pm UTC

itsirtou, 2006-11-20 09:36 pm UTC

la_viv, 2006-11-21 10:49 pm UTC

dwarfjen, 2006-11-20 09:52 pm UTC

frequentmouse, 2006-11-20 10:21 pm UTC

puipui, 2006-11-21 12:06 am UTC

smo, 2006-11-21 02:15 am UTC

wankismyfandom, 2006-11-23 04:57 am UTC

psychesky, 2006-11-21 04:13 am UTC

dustmotes, 2006-11-21 02:30 am UTC

nima_skysong, 2006-11-21 03:23 am UTC

seiberwing, 2006-11-21 05:38 pm UTC

seiberwing
2006-11-20 09:06 pm UTC (link)

I'm just busy giggling at his review of The Ant Bully.

All of the ant and wasp designs look like they're straight out of a Sci-fi movie -- with each ant distinctive and alien, complete with tribal tattoos, and wasps that look like badass Decepticon bugs.

I take it he's never heard of Waspinator, the most cuddly doof ever to be blown up in every single episode.

*thoughts on ant yaoi--I mean, yuri* Personally, I thought it was rather intriguing once you got past the toilet humor. It was a hell of a lot better than "A Bug's Life" and its dark cousin "Antz" (it's spelled with a Z, you moron), choosing to demonstrate a completely alien society instead of making a parody of humans. There were differing individuals (such as an ant wizard, which was pretty cool in my eyes), but they also showed the complete and peaceful unity of the colony instead of making everyone else the evil enforces of conformity. And they actually had the queen as this big-ass creature instead of the protagonist's love interest, which quite satisfied me.

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oar, 2006-11-20 09:35 pm UTC

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skarrow, 2006-11-20 11:44 pm UTC

seiberwing, 2006-11-20 11:50 pm UTC

slackeremeritus, 2006-11-21 12:04 am UTC

seiberwing, 2006-11-21 12:06 am UTC

sonic331va
2006-11-20 09:10 pm UTC (link)

Yea, I saw the movie on opening day, and I agree with almost everything he said this movie was. And you know what? I thought it was AWESOME. Kids NEED to learn this type of thing... that there's more than one way of thinking out there.

I found the movie rather boring at parts, but it is a kids' movie. I definitely applaud this movie for everything the OP hates about it.

Also, Hugh Jackman as penguin!Elvis. *ded*

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luxshine, 2006-11-20 11:10 pm UTC

southerngaelic, 2006-11-20 11:19 pm UTC

b_jellybean, 2006-11-21 04:34 am UTC

arien, 2006-11-21 04:51 am UTC

thecheese, 2006-11-21 07:42 am UTC

la_viv, 2006-11-21 10:50 pm UTC

	mcity 2006-11-20 09:25 pm UTC (link)
	It's PENGUINS! It's penguins bleeping DANCING! Sheesh! /wank (Reply to this)(Thread)

tunxeh, 2006-11-20 09:31 pm UTC

	grapefruitzzz 2006-11-20 09:38 pm UTC (link)
	Wasn't there wanl before about a different penguin film that celebrated heterosexuality and marriage? WHY IS IT ALWAYS THE PENGUINS? (Reply to this)(Thread)

mochibuni, 2006-11-20 10:09 pm UTC

parzi, 2006-11-20 10:41 pm UTC

b_jellybean, 2006-11-21 04:36 am UTC

slackeremeritus, 2006-11-21 12:07 am UTC

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	mochibuni 2006-11-20 10:08 pm UTC (link)
	I'll have to add this to my list of Why I Should See Happy Feet. It can go right under fuzzy penguin babies and the Harry Potter trailer. I was actually expecting some kind of HP related wank, not evil propaganda. (Reply to this)

parzi
2006-11-20 10:39 pm UTC (link)

Is he just bothered by the fact that the movie suggests that you not blindly follow authority (like religion or your parents). Because that was the message I got. Not 'your parents are always wrong and there is no God' but 'your parents can be wrong sometimes and your preacher might be too so think for yourself a little'. He says it himself, "So my advice to those of you who are taking your kids anyway, prepare yourself for some questions. Be ready to explain the difference between faith and dogma..." Oh no. heaven forbid you'll have to answer a kid's questions. I'm not a parent, but isn't them asking questions so you can answer it kind of a good thing? Granted, you may get ones you can't answer, but they're eventually going to have to figure out that you don't know everything.

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lovelypoet, 2006-11-21 01:06 am UTC

thexphial, 2006-11-21 02:01 am UTC

	guilty_as_sin 2006-11-20 10:59 pm UTC (link)
	Does this mean Footloose (which has A, D & E from his list) began the slow decline of civilization, and Happy Feet continues the trend? I had no idea movies could be so destructive. I thought it was the Footloose soundtrack that was Pure Evil. ~~Except Holding Out for a Hero. Love it!~~ (Reply to this)(Thread)

dodge_and_weave, 2006-11-21 12:58 am UTC

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