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Jedi Knight Miki ([info]jedi_miki) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-12-01 09:26:00


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Current mood:Caffeinated
Current music:White and Nerdy - Weird Al
Entry tags:fandom: avatar the last airbender, pairing wars, persecution, wikipedia

If you don't ship anything in Avatar, then GTFO!
This wank has a couple of days behind it, but since I know that everyone here enjoys a good 'ol batshit paring war with delusional shippers, I thought it'd be okay.

Anyway, the resident Harmonians of the Avatar: The Last Airbender fandom called the Zutara (Zuko/Katara) shippers (or Zutarians) start wanking on Wiki for not allowing any Zutara material to be posted or discussed on their website.

It all starts with Prototime stating that he's tired of the mother fuckin' Zutara fans on his mother fuckin' Wiki. But things heat up when he says the following- "Zutara" is a purely speculative relationship that has no valid basis, despite attempts of some fans to throw together circumstantial evidence and interpreting it in a way to support their fantasies.

Like little shipper bees to honey, the Zutarians show up and 3, 2, 1... wank.

A mouse states that if Zutara is "band", all other parings for Avatar should be "banded" as well. H2P steps in and gets all JKR on the fandom by calling all hints of Zutara to be delusional. This makes the mouse think that clearly H2P has never shipped an Avatar ship before and that the thoughts of Zutara happening was on par with the Theory of Relativity. (Oh shippers, you're just trying too hard!)

The mouse later gives herself the name of "DJ Zutara and Taang FOREVER" and proceeds to hound H2P about oppressing the gold that is Zutara. A couple of other people respond to DJ telling her that Wiki is not the place, but she only comes back for more to ask H2P to answer her questions.

A second mouse kindly tells DJ to pack up her bad grammar and leave, but this only results in more fansqueeing, complete with "OH NO U DI'NT OPRESS ME!".

A second Zutara shipper steps in sometime later. Arowen Half-Elven boldly proclaims "And, hate to break it to ya, I'm an American, this is a FREE country, we have freedom of speech and press, and you CANNOT keep us from posting Zutara or other parings on this talk page". Someone should remind her that the internet isn't only America, thus American rights only can go so far.

And it's a downward spiral of wank from there. DJ just keeps coming back for more, while others attempt to stamp Wiki = FACT, Zutara = FICTION (as of right now) into her brain.

It all ends with this lovely gem-
Geez, using Wiki to push your shipper delusions is beyond sad. You should all be embarrassed.


I know I'm embarrassed for my fandom.

Edit: The Zutara fandom explodes. Would you like some cheese with your whine? (WARNING- there are spoilers to the second season finale in that post!)




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[info]wrongly_amused
2006-12-01 06:14 pm UTC (link)
BWAHA. BWAHAHAHA.

One of my LJ buds keeps pushing her flistmates to get into Avatar. If this is the kind of gold it has to offer, I might just have to. 8-)

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[info]vigilanterodent
2006-12-01 06:54 pm UTC (link)
Never have I been happier that I steer clear of Avatar's fandom and just watch the show.

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[info]ara
2006-12-01 06:55 pm UTC (link)
OH WOW, this is HILARIOUS! I don't even follow this fandom very well and it's still a riot.

I really like how H2P has pretty much declared himself as the sole lord and guardian of the Avatar Wiki page. It's like he's right there standing in front of the edit button screaming "YOU WILL NOT PASS!" at the Zutara baelrog. So cute!

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[info]braisinhussy
2006-12-01 06:56 pm UTC (link)
Two of my close friends are Zutarians. Thankfully, they don't participate in fandom. I think. Well, one of them cosplays Katara (and is super-cute at it).

(Heh, the Avatar cosplay LJ community is called threadbending. That's irrelevant but awesome.)

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[info]senor_pinata
2006-12-01 07:00 pm UTC (link)
Oh wow. Okay, I just mainlined the whole second season in two days and change, and...am I the only one who finds the possibility of Katara/Zuko interesting (I'm intrigued by the interaction after his Journey of Maybe Sorta Redemption and Non-Stupid Hair) but has never had any illusions about canon? Wasn't the last time they even TALKED last season?

Then again I'm apparently weird because I find Aang to young to ship, period.

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favorite line.... - (Anonymous), 2009-04-16 05:18 am UTC

[info]wakuchan
2006-12-01 07:25 pm UTC (link)
...*facepalm*

I'm so glad I mostly left the fandom after the first season or so. Oi.

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[info]life_on_mars
2006-12-01 07:27 pm UTC (link)
Do you have something against Einstien's Theory of Revalitivy and other SCIENTIFIC theories that are taken for fact or just my "delusional misintrupretation of facts"?

No, no, always been a big fan of Einstien and Revalitivy and I never misintrupret anything.

And I absolurtley lofe prople thta meke neuw wrods.

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[info]kats_kradle
2006-12-01 07:39 pm UTC (link)
Am I the only one who doesn't have a specific pairing they want to see happen?

Also, golden opportunity to find out who else out there ships Appa and Momo (Apmo?) because my husband is insisting he's not the only one who sees the love there.

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[info]nanthimus
2006-12-01 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Oh Avatar fandom.

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[info]rawles
2006-12-01 08:13 pm UTC (link)
BRILLIANT.

Oh, Avatar fandom. I knew the core of your insanity would make here eventually.

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[info]harrylovesron
2006-12-01 08:20 pm UTC (link)
Dear GOD. Are none of my fandoms free from the poison of batshit shipper wars?

Does anybody else want to join me in the Zula/Mai/Ty Lee camp?

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[info]soupspooks
2006-12-01 08:23 pm UTC (link)
Eventually, people will learn what the first amendment is about.

Meanwhile, I'm from Canada. So I say, stfu.

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[info]tehrin
2006-12-01 08:33 pm UTC (link)
This from a fandom who brought us wank because people thought somehow how on Nickelodeon was not just for kids doesn't make me too surprised.

Now, I wouldn't mind Zutara- but its just so conventional and well, boring for me. I'd rather be surprised. Personally, I view Katara as someone who could be a guiding, sister figure to Zuko like Azuka never was or like the mother he lost. Plus I'm worried about the fandom exploding if the shippers get what they want, or don't want, because of my time in HP fandom.

As for crack pairings... *waves Zuko/Toph and Zuko/Ty Lee flags*

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[info]drhikari
2006-12-01 08:35 pm UTC (link)
Thank you! This is the kind of thing that brightens up my day. :)

Also, what the hell is "Taang"? Katara/Aang?

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[info]ladysorka
2006-12-01 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I'm now debating if I really want to watch that whole first season I downloaded or download the rest. I have enough crazy fandoms already.

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[info]whimsy_chan
2006-12-01 10:04 pm UTC (link)
And, hate to break it to ya, I'm an American, this is a FREE country, we have freedom of speech and press

FAIL. Is there a jurisimprudence law for this? Because there should be, dammit. Every time I see someone pull the 'free speech!' card on the internet I'm a little more ashamed of my country's educational system.

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[info]smo
2006-12-01 10:19 pm UTC (link)
A mouse states that if Zutara is "band", all other parings for Avatar should be "banded" as well.

That would certainly make for easier identification, yes.

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[info]cathowl
2006-12-01 11:00 pm UTC (link)
I'm an American, this is a FREE country, we have freedom of speech and press

Now what was that exact amendment again...?

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

Let's take a closer look at that.

Congress shall make no law...abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press

So the government can't make a law that restricts free speech. Okay. But it says nothing about non-government entities saying you can't say or write certain things in their space. Gee, who'da thunk it?

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[info]esclaramonde
2006-12-02 12:18 am UTC (link)
I have no idea what Zutara is. I'm not even sure how to spell it properly because I never type it. Or think about it. Um. Come to that, I don't think I'm even sure of who the characters are or why people might think they're very cute and not care if they do end up together but might see that they did and would be pleasantly surprised if something they liked did happen, rather like Remus/Tonks may have been. For some people. You know.

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[info]mythdefied
2006-12-02 12:29 am UTC (link)
I took one look at the level of batshit crazy over there, LMAO, and headed over here. Because I just knew F_W wouldn't disappoint me.

So vv glad I'm not in that fandom.

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[info]rekall
2006-12-02 12:48 am UTC (link)
The Avatar fandom is like FMA-lite. First there was eye color wank and now a pairings wank. It's kinda cute how they're trying so hard to play with the big boys.

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[info]twoiskewl
2006-12-02 12:58 am UTC (link)
Oh, shippers.

Am I the only one who ships Zula/Zuko in a creepy she clearly molests him way?

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[info]pokecheck
2006-12-02 01:30 am UTC (link)
Iroh/Tea.

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[info]the_clichemoth
2006-12-02 01:46 am UTC (link)
{wank}
See, this is why I disagree with the whole idea of fictional anything on Wikipedia. Have an article about the existence and general premise of the show/book/etc. with good external links, but don't fill pages with minutiae. IMO, unless a character is as iconic as, say, Darth Vader, Holden Caulfield, or Barney Fife, they don't need their own article. Not to mention that things BNWs (Big Name Wikipedians) like (which apparently include Pokemon and Avatar) when other shows (**cough**Lost**cough**) get extremely short shrift despite being just as popular.

{/wank}

Why, yes, I am a bitter Lost fan. Thanks for asking.

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[info]toph
2006-12-02 01:57 am UTC (link)
I'm just thankful this wank has brought all the Avatar icons to the yard.

<3 the show, avoid the fandom like a plague. But speaking of, can anyone point me to torrents of the second season? *wiggles eyebrows*

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