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La Guera (![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/userinfo.gif){kind=small} laguera25) wrote in ![[info]](http://www.journalfen.net/img/community.gif){kind=small} fandom_wank,@ 2006-12-06 21:55:00 |
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| Entry tags: | fandom: csi, racism |
CSI:NY: Where the Spooge Never Dries
Actually, CSI:NY is a remarkably easygoing fen, but the impending holidays have everyone's panties in a crease.
Over on TalkCSI, people discuss the lack of romance for Sheldon Hawkes the ME cum CSI who happens to be deliciously hot man of color. Most kvetch about a drunk partygoer Hawkes tried to help. Then Ambersdream offers this astute opinion:
I really hate to say this, but interracial relationships on TV are getting played out. It's like TV is going out of it's way to pair people together interracially. Like it's some trend. That is a route I don't think CSI NY should take.
As you might imagine because this is the Internet, the drama llamas are out of the gate. Springmoon, who is in an interracial marriage, disagrees:
Well, I for one, will disagree with you, ambersdream. I don't get a brother sister vibe from the two of them nor is it necessarily an interracial pairing so much as a pairing. They are a hot couple.
Hardly wanky. But ambersdream quickly remedies that:
Your opinion and YOUR opinion only Springmoon. The interracial angle is played out and I wouldn't want Hawkes involved in it. Every hot black man on TV doesn't have to have a non-black woman on his arm. Also, there are many black women who watch this show just because Hill is on the show. That would really piss them off and could possibly lose CSINY ratings. There was some article I"ll have to find about this specific thing..Black women who specifically watch this show because of Hill. There was an uproar just because the idea was even explored on that episode when he was so sprung over the white trash druggie. Message boards were buzzing about how wrong that pairing was. The audacity that they would pair this gorgeous, black, catch with that idiot who could barely hold her head up.
Oh, wow. There are a few more comments, but Springmoon tries to let it go. But she can't. She finally takes the gloves off here:
Claws out or not, I'm going to respond to this. I wanted to ignore it and move on, but I am far too bothered to just let it go.
As a black woman whose husband is not, this discussion about the only woman good enough for a black man is a black woman is personally offensive. I had wanted to avoid this by not encouraging the whole discussion based on race, but I have felt that option is now long gone.
Far from being "played out" on tv, in my opinion, interracial relationships happen in every day life and, like many many other scenarios, not really addressed on network television. You don't choose your friends based on their race, do you? If that were the case, huge communities of people on this board would not be talking to each other. What's played out is this trite and pointless discussion that comes up every time someone says: he/she should find him/her a nice ____ man/woman. rolleyes.gif. Stupid me; I thought we had moved far beyond that.
It's also marginally insulting to suggest that many of the people who are posting in here did not start watching the show because of Hill. So... other people who aren't black didn't start watching because of him either? That does not compute.
Every time someone brings up that tired and sorry and poor argument that a character of color on a tv show should only hook up with another character of color it's more than an affront to me. It's an affront to everyone who ever lived and worked to make sure that people of different ethnic backgrounds can live and work and screw each other if they want to. I think it's a flat-out slap in the face. Given the fact that exactly 4 people have participated in this inane argument speaks volumes.
And again, I stand by my assertion that this discussion does not belong here because it is far too easy for it to spiral out of control. This is a frigging TV show. Thoughtful discussion on character development, plots and a certain amount of squealing over the overwhelming amount of pulchritude is what makes this board fun. Me having to sit here and write this after being directly attacked for disagreeing with someone is not.
Now, back to our discussion...
Does Ambersdream take that lying down?
Do yourself a favor Springmoon and give it up. You're showing your insecurities with your own interracial relationship and people's perceptions about it. If you're a black woman, then you should know exactly what I was getting at when I was talking about the importance of a successful woman of color being on Hawkes side. What world do you live in? You sound very far from reality.
You're grasping at straws...I didn't say EVERY one black or non black started watching the show because of Hill. I said many black women I've met/know/heard of.
Nobody attacked you, I called your opinions out because that's what a discussion is. Nothing is inane on this board if someone finds it necessary to speak on it.
It is just a TV show, now that someone disagrees with you?? Of course it's fiction, but real life situations influence TV and perceptions of the people it portrays.
I'm so done with your madness!
Who can argue with that?
The full thread can be found here
