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Pyrate Jenni ([info]pyratejenni) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-12-09 12:25:00


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Entry tags:fandom: due south, pairing wars

OMG! How DARE you write a pairing that HURTS ME!
[info]aukestrel rants about rec warnings in Due South fandom. She doesn't want to read Ray/Ray (or Ray?Ray, as she puts it, because she just can't see the pairing), so she wants clear rec-labels. Okay, fine. Lots of people don't want to read a particular pairing. This makes sense.

This? Not so much:

I prefer my F/K fantasy life. I've loved it for over six years now and I'm going to continue to love it for the foreseeable future.

So please... for the love of Dief and little green apples, would you think before you rec a fucking Ray?Ray story and don't actually mention that fact?

Also, when I defriend you, it's nothing personal. I'm tired of wading through seemingly endless paeans to the glory and rightness of Ray?Ray and recs for stories I have less than no interest in.

Wait, you know what? It is personal. Because I'll wade through endless paeans to Jsquared and Sam/Dean and even McShep without getting all het up. But Fraser's a crazy-ass emotional "for God's sake don't let her near Paul Gross!" connection for me and it hurts me when he's left out in the cold, out of character and just plain out of luck.


Neither does this

Alternate pairings mark the end of "something" (hegemony? group-think? comment-whoring? Tell us!)in a fandom? I did not know that!

There's more nuttiness in the comments,supposedly, but I can't brave them yet without coffee. Thanks to [info]glossing2 for linking to the [info]wank_report,and the mouse that posted it there for the heads-up.




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[info]rosehiptea
2006-12-09 08:05 pm UTC (link)
I'm all for people accurately labeling pairings (though in my experience they almost always do...) but if reading the wrong pairing traumatizes my brain that's pretty much my problem.

Alternate pairings have always marked the end of boredom, to me, but what do I know.



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[info]tez
2006-12-09 08:06 pm UTC (link)
Alternate pairings mark the end of "something" (hegemony? group-think? comment-whoring? Tell us!)in a fandom? I did not know that!

Neither did I! Now I have to figure out what my adoration of Kenpachi/Byakuya in Bleach marks the end of, other than my sanity.

In addition, the random barrage of bold, italics, and bold italics is making my poor brain hurt. Now I need a latte'.

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[info]quettaser
2006-12-09 08:08 pm UTC (link)
Her random EMphasis of syllables and WORDS hurts my brain.

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[info]smo
2006-12-09 08:14 pm UTC (link)
*speechless*

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[info]ravenscanary
2006-12-09 08:16 pm UTC (link)
The fictional characters themselves are offended by the very suggestion.

Wow.

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[info]ingrid
2006-12-09 08:16 pm UTC (link)
"I don't give a fuck what you want to read or write."

Methinks this is a fibbity-fib.

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[info]the_wanlorn
2006-12-09 08:25 pm UTC (link)
I... don't think I've ever seen someone get so worked up about a pairing. Maybe Harmoanians, but they're a different kind of fruit entirely.

Wow.

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[info]scarah2
2006-12-09 08:26 pm UTC (link)
I've never seen this show (it's a show, right?)

The second link: "I blame lj which = George Bush administration." lol

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[info]kyuuketsukirui
2006-12-09 08:31 pm UTC (link)
I thought for sure it must be a parody rant when I saw it, until I saw the forty comments heartily agreeing with her. ;_;

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[info]esorlehcar
2006-12-09 08:47 pm UTC (link)
Because I'll wade through endless paeans to Jsquared and Sam/Dean and even McShep without getting all het up.

Um. Is she saying that J2, Sam/Dean and McShep are by definition OOC just like she claims Ray/Ray is? Or am I interrogating the text from the wrong perspective?

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(no subject) - [info]pyratejenni, 2006-12-09 08:50 pm UTC
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(no subject) - [info]siobhania, 2006-12-09 09:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aukestrel, 2006-12-10 07:02 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]amberwaves, 2006-12-13 10:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]skarrow, 2006-12-10 07:11 am UTC
Wow.
[info]zealot
2006-12-09 08:53 pm UTC (link)
"Believe it or not, not everyone on your LJ friends' list is a popularity-seeking, fad-writing/reading sheep."

Yes, like lambs to the slash-laden slaughter. Poor dumb bastards.


"But then Ray Kowalski did come along and it was a flashBANGgiantfuckingBOOM from about the first two minutes. Leopold and Loeb? HelLO!"

She's comparing them to Jewish thrill killers from the 1920s? I haven't seen Due South in many years, but it's about a Dudley Do-Right type and his cynical sidekick, correct?

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Re: Wow. - [info]ingrid, 2006-12-09 08:56 pm UTC
Re: Wow. - sockpuppet_rat, 2006-12-09 10:49 pm UTC
Re: Wow. - [info]siobhania, 2006-12-09 08:59 pm UTC
Re: Wow. - [info]glossing2, 2006-12-09 09:19 pm UTC
Re: Wow. - [info]koipool, 2006-12-10 12:28 am UTC
Re: Wow. - [info]skarrow, 2006-12-10 07:10 am UTC

[info]siobhania
2006-12-09 08:57 pm UTC (link)
Ok, so I don't particularly like Ray/Ray (because I don't find RayV that attractive) and I'll agree that in the past year or so the pairing has become more popular in certain parts of fandom, but... wow. If I found myself accidently reading a pairing I didn't care for, my response would probably be to close the tab and then go read a story with the "right" pairing in order to assure myself that all is right in the world. It's not that hard.

And it's a shame, because I like her stories.

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(no subject) - [info]kelmendi, 2006-12-09 10:35 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]aukestrel, 2006-12-10 06:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-12-10 12:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2006-12-10 04:39 pm UTC
totally OT but... - coreopsis, 2006-12-11 12:37 am UTC
Re: totally OT but... - [info]janegraddell, 2006-12-11 01:08 am UTC
Re: totally OT but... - coreopsis, 2006-12-11 01:24 am UTC
Re: totally OT but... - [info]janegraddell, 2006-12-11 05:24 am UTC

[info]moonjaguar
2006-12-09 08:58 pm UTC (link)
I've seen people get pretty freaky about pairings. Hornblower had a vocal amount of batshit insane Horatio/Archie OTP!!4eva shippers who thought any other pairing was wrongwrongwrong and after A&E deleted the A, forgetting to insert DKU (Dead Kennedy Universe) warning brought much wails of anger and betrayal. That was 250 years ago Internet Shelflife time though.

This post probably beats any other fandom insanity I've seen. I see, RayK/RayV shippers are cruel, insensitive, abusive, baby-dumpstering sickfucks who only ship that pairing to torture AUkestrel and piss on her fantasy world of Ben Fraser and Stanley Kowalski holding hands and skipping through a daisy-filled meadow. At least she cops to her creepy obsession with Paul Gross, dollars to donuts she's conflating actor and character.

mondschein sounds reasonable here (plus I dig what that user name translates into).

maryjane7547 owes me a new keyboard :

This post and the comments are cracking me up because it's like Ray/Ray is killing the Fraser God with it's madness. If it isn't stopped then soon we will all be dancing wildly around a bonfire while singing songs of Ray and Ray and their epic fucks in dark alleys.


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[info]luxshine
2006-12-09 09:16 pm UTC (link)
Ok, I personaly don't like when people rec a Ray/Fraser story without marking if it's RayK or RayV, since I personally don't like RayK/Fraser, but my back button isn't broken, so I've never found it extremely traumating...

And, wtf? Ray/Ray is swamping the fandom? May I ask where? I was under the impression that there were an overwhelming quantity of RayK/Fraser fics, followed by RayV/Fraser, and maybe then you could find a couple of Ray/Ray...

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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2006-12-09 09:29 pm UTC
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[info]glossing2
2006-12-09 09:25 pm UTC (link)
AuK: Also, when I defriend you, it's nothing personal
Except for how you are a fb-whoring, fad-following stupid sheep, of course.

I've been obsessively refreshing the original post since late yesterday afternoon, because it's just -- *fascinating*, the levels of entitlement and emotional investment that are on display there.

Or it *was* fascinating. Now it's equal parts scary and sad.

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(no subject) - [info]janegraddell, 2006-12-09 10:16 pm UTC
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[info]embyquinn
2006-12-09 09:33 pm UTC (link)
Does that make Ray/Ray (or Ray?Ray) the Slashlove That Dares Not Speak Its Name?

Seriously, WTF. This chick needs to go to the bank, take out a loan, buy a clue, rent some friends, and if she's got any money left, chip in a personality.

Srsly.

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[info]alpheratz
2006-12-09 09:34 pm UTC (link)
DS pairing wars are so 1998.

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[info]darthsemicolon
2006-12-09 09:55 pm UTC (link)
Granted, my flist doesn't do much in the way of fic-reccing, but maybe I'm just crazy for being friends with two people who love ships I hate. (I do cringe whenever one of them uses her manipped Obi/Padme icon, but that's more of a reflex than anything else.)

Also, I agree with the people who stated that people tend to plainly identify the pairings in a fic. Honestly? I always thought that pairing - even if you're posting it to a pairing-specific community - was just a natural thing to include in a fic's headers.

And Ray?Ray is stupid. OMG I AM REBELLING AGAINST THE SLASHERS WITH MY UNIQUELY MOCKING PUNCTUATION.

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(no subject) - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-12-09 10:17 pm UTC
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[info]bastet
2006-12-09 10:13 pm UTC (link)
Does this mean I'm oppressed now? Sweet!

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[info]bastet
2006-12-09 10:27 pm UTC (link)
Also, I LOVE her insistance that Ray/Ray is okay if it's written "from the heart."

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sockpuppet_rat
2006-12-09 10:55 pm UTC (link)
Goddamn, who knew the DS fandom still had it in 'em to wank about the Rays.

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(no subject) - [info]snacky, 2006-12-10 03:49 am UTC

[info]shutthef_up
2006-12-09 11:16 pm UTC (link)
Oh, sweet Jebus! I would have thought that the dS wankers metaphorical dicks would have fallen off by now considering the frequency and vigorousness of their wanking.

dS was my first fandom and it sent me screaming off into the night quite some time ago. *sheds one perfect emo tear*

Ride Forever my wanky bitca!

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[info]knightrider
2006-12-09 11:27 pm UTC (link)
Lordy, I thought all those dS super-crazies had either moved on or dropped dead. Man. She was a weirdo of epic proportions back when I was heavily involved in the fandom years ago. It's kind of sad to see she's still operating at that level of bugshit insanity after six years.

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[info]oulangi
2006-12-09 11:32 pm UTC (link)
This is the show about the Mounty?

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2006-12-12 12:19 am UTC

[info]entrenous88
2006-12-09 11:35 pm UTC (link)
It's bad enough, this Ray?Ray fad infesting LJ.

I always thought it was a semi-unusual pairing...no?

In any case, the whole idea that someone who seems to represent a fandom's majority counts her or himself as one of the stalwart hold-out fans with *heart* battling against the nameless hordes who are bringing down all of fandom just by reccing/writing/thinking stuff always makes me giggle.

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(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2006-12-10 09:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2006-12-10 02:52 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]bastet, 2006-12-10 08:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2006-12-10 09:20 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pet, 2006-12-10 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2006-12-10 10:31 pm UTC
oh dear. - [info]pet, 2006-12-10 11:08 pm UTC
Re: oh dear. - [info]sepiamagpie, 2006-12-11 12:03 am UTC
Re: oh dear. - [info]pet, 2006-12-11 12:30 am UTC
Re: oh dear. - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-12-11 09:04 am UTC
Re: oh dear. - [info]jat_sapphire, 2006-12-11 09:04 am UTC
Re: oh dear. - [info]ymfaery, 2006-12-12 09:12 pm UTC


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