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seiberwing ([info]seiberwing) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2006-12-31 12:40:00


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Entry tags:fandom: transformers, omgwtf

Anyone remember Transformers KISS? No? I envy you.

At any rate, there is wank once again. A thread on it was made about two months ago, and was reasonably peaceful because people had a sense of humor about it. Yay sane fans.

The wank doesn't start until page ten, with this phrase.

"Transforming combat robots that get their powers from molesting underage girls. I think that sums up Japanese culture better than anything else possibly could"

Since when is this kind of racist crap OK on RPG.net?

I think my Japanese friends and family members might have something to say about this.


Arguments break out over whether commenting on odd habits or pervertedness in parts of Japanese culture is racist or observation. Choice comments from both sides:

I understand the point you are making, but when you have a homogenous society like Japan, the issue of race does creep in especially considering the history between the West and East and The US and Japan.

Furthermore, your bias is clearly displayed, as Rape-man (which is not what I was really talking about anyway) MIGHT BE ERRONEOUS as compared to “Rambo Defines…” would be COMPELTELY WRONG. You’re directly implying that maybe it really does define their culture by the use of weasel words.

Saying “Transforming combat robots that get their powers from molesting underage girls. I think that sums up Japanese culture better than anything else possibly could” IS completely wrong as well. Not some weaselly “might be erroneous” garbage.


***

Actually I can qualify the one and not the other because I happen to live in the United States and not Japan (I live on an Indian Reservation, technically), thus I can say that the society I live in is certainly not represented by Rambo while I really can't say if Rape-Man represents Japan on not from personal experience, not having visited. The notion that this represents a clear bias is something you're inventing yourself by reading more into the text than is stated.

If Japanese Society is homogenous, as you claim, then what's loved by one should be loved by all. In that case we have to conclude that Rape Man, Jam Fingers up Asses: The Video Game, and Megatron: Pedophile Tongue Rapist are indeed representative of Japanese culture. You're basically contradicting yourself since your argument in this post seems to boil down to:
A: The Hideous Lolicon stuff is only liked by a few weirdos and doesn't represent that culture.
B: Japanese society is very homogenous with everybody being very much alike.


***

"And incase your interested, I have been to Japan and no, I didn’t see anyone get raped by robots."

Weird. When I went to Japan, I saw it happen every day. You must have been there during the two-month rest period, when the robots are recalibrated, and their robo-reservoirs are replenished.



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[info]sepiamagpie
2006-12-31 08:28 pm UTC (link)
That last part is grand.

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[info]hickorydickory
2006-12-31 08:32 pm UTC (link)
Why oh why did I have to be reminded of Transformers Kiss?




Damn you good.

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[info]dragonfangirl
2006-12-31 08:38 pm UTC (link)
I've been in Japan for five months now and I have yet to see anyone raped by a robot. I demand a refund.

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[info]vengeance_bean
2007-01-01 08:42 am UTC (link)
I believe it depends on where you are. Robots have a tough time in Okinawa, what with all the water, and the Alps are a little difficult for anyone to navigate, let alone robots suffering from the snow and cold.

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(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2007-01-02 07:41 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]cornedbee, 2007-01-05 07:49 pm UTC

[info]ichigatsu
2006-12-31 08:40 pm UTC (link)
Because of everyone's horrified comments from the last Transformers KISS wank, I've restrained myself from clicking on the relevant links.

I think I shall live in the (relatively) happy place where I believe Transformers KISS are robots who can turn into rockstars with big platform boots and killer makeup.

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[info]mistressrenet
2006-12-31 09:40 pm UTC (link)
...they're not?

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(no subject) - [info]sepiamagpie, 2006-12-31 09:41 pm UTC

[info]ladysphinx
2006-12-31 09:42 pm UTC (link)
Are you implying that Gene Simmons with a long waggling cyber-tongue is somehow more culturally acceptible than a robot with a fat lolling cyber-tongue? Because if you were, then you'd be right. God, you'd be so right.

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(no subject) - [info]ichigatsu, 2006-12-31 10:02 pm UTC

[info]greenling
2006-12-31 09:46 pm UTC (link)
I think I shall live in the (relatively) happy place where I believe Transformers KISS are robots who can turn into rockstars with big platform boots and killer makeup.

God, that it only would be!

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[info]oxydosic
2006-12-31 10:22 pm UTC (link)
I think I shall live in the (relatively) happy place where I believe Transformers KISS are robots who can turn into rockstars with big platform boots and killer makeup.

That's the first thing I thought when I saw the title. That would be just all sorts of rad.

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[info]hooverdam
2006-12-31 08:42 pm UTC (link)
Saying “Transforming combat robots that get their powers from molesting underage girls. I think that sums up Japanese culture better than anything else possibly could” IS completely wrong as well

Well, of course it is. Everyone knows shitting dicknipples are the apex of Japanese culture.

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[info]freezer
2006-12-31 08:52 pm UTC (link)
I thought it was 14-year old nymphomaniac dick-girls?

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(no subject) - [info]hooverdam, 2006-12-31 09:51 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]kahrohseh, 2006-12-31 10:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ichigatsu, 2006-12-31 10:04 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]demonbean, 2006-12-31 11:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]dragonfangirl, 2006-12-31 11:55 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]hallidae, 2007-01-01 01:22 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]kahrohseh, 2007-01-02 10:48 pm UTC

[info]t_boy
2006-12-31 09:08 pm UTC (link)
Now, I understand that Japan's many social problems stems from the fact that it is in a sense an isolated monoculture undergoing serious economic and socio-political crises...

But trying to infer all of that from a fricking comic book is incredibly stupid the sort of stupid that you see so damn often on the Internet anyway.

And am I the only one who found the four sample pages... more incomprehensible than grotesque?

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(no subject) - [info]wrongly_amused, 2006-12-31 09:18 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]t_boy, 2006-12-31 09:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - sockpuppet_rat, 2006-12-31 10:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]straykat, 2006-12-31 10:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-01 03:33 am UTC

[info]gusty
2006-12-31 09:32 pm UTC (link)
I think my Japanese friends and family members might have something to say about this.

"... wait, you're having an argument with people over the internet about Transformers?"

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[info]sashenka
2006-12-31 09:51 pm UTC (link)
You know, I think people are getting Japan confused with Japan-of-the-Future. Current day Japan doesn't have giant robots. It has little fucked up monsters that people keep in tiny balls and take out when they want to have cock fights with their pets. Also, Godzilla.

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(no subject) - [info]singe, 2007-01-02 03:54 am UTC

[info]oxydosic
2006-12-31 10:14 pm UTC (link)
The people who keep bringing up Rape-Man DO realize that in this case 'tape' refers to a certain type of produce and not the forced sexual act, right?

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(no subject) - [info]oxydosic, 2006-12-31 10:15 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-01-01 04:58 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosehiptea, 2007-01-01 06:10 am UTC

[info]ravenclaw_devi
2006-12-31 10:17 pm UTC (link)
The real amusing part is that the Japanese Transfans themselves find the KISS stuff about as embarrassing as we do.

*really needs more/new TF icons to post here, yes yes*

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[info]waterfront
2006-12-31 10:21 pm UTC (link)
Oh, Lord, I'd managed to block Transformers KISS from my mind. It-- it hurts a little.

(What's that? Wank? Sorry, I'm too busy bleaching my brain.)

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[info]straykat
2006-12-31 10:45 pm UTC (link)
Looking for the silver lining in being reminded of the TF KISS line, again...at least that last bit is total WIN.

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[info]alpheratz
2007-01-01 12:00 am UTC (link)
Without commenting on the wank itself --

Since when is this kind of racist crap OK on RPG.net?

Why does it always have to be racist? Can't it just be xenophobic?

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(no subject) - [info]semirecluse, 2007-01-01 09:38 pm UTC

[info]the_clichemoth
2007-01-01 12:56 am UTC (link)
If Japanese Society is homogenous, as you claim, then what's loved by one should be loved by all. In that case we have to conclude that Rape Man, Jam Fingers up Asses: The Video Game, and Megatron: Pedophile Tongue Rapist are indeed representative of Japanese culture. You're basically contradicting yourself since your argument in this post seems to boil down to:
A: The Hideous Lolicon stuff is only liked by a few weirdos and doesn't represent that culture.
B: Japanese society is very homogenous with everybody being very much alike.


Eh, the finger-up-the-ass game is Korean.

Korea != Japan.

Just saying...

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(no subject) - [info]visp, 2007-01-03 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puckity, 2007-01-04 08:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-04 09:16 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_clichemoth, 2007-01-05 12:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]the_clichemoth, 2007-01-05 12:10 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puckity, 2007-01-05 01:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-05 02:44 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]puckity, 2007-01-05 03:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-05 03:19 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]maureenlycaon, 2007-01-06 08:21 pm UTC

[info]viralmemory
2007-01-01 02:47 am UTC (link)
Wait, so is this the return wank of Rapey McPenisTongue?

Sorry, that still makes me laugh out loud. Usually at completely random times. (why didn't I grab the icon?)

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-01 02:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]southerngaelic, 2007-01-01 12:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-01 05:12 pm UTC

magpiggles
2007-01-01 07:18 pm UTC (link)
RPG.net wank that isn't related to homosexuality in the slightest?

I am shocked to my core.

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(no subject) - [info]seiberwing, 2007-01-01 07:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - magpiggles, 2007-01-01 07:31 pm UTC
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[info]ara
2007-01-01 10:13 pm UTC (link)
I'm just here for the GIP.

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(no subject) - [info]southerngaelic, 2007-01-03 12:47 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ashu, 2007-01-04 09:03 am UTC

[info]slackeremeritus
2007-01-02 04:10 am UTC (link)
...I couldn't even begin to fathom the sheer obtuseness in that thread. I just -- no, it isn't working. My brain doesn't have a gear that low.

And actually, I sort of like KISSPlay because it brought us Autolooper and he's nifty.

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[info]priestesspadfoo
2007-01-03 09:36 am UTC (link)
Oh god... I'm back to worrying about the little girl by the pool in the movie trailer.

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