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Damien Raptore ([info]damien) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-01-19 23:28:00


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Current mood:Wiped
Entry tags:comics

This comic was made from 100% recycled soapboxes.
[info]stolismancer makes a post on [info]scans_daily, containing a comic in which the writer, Grant Morrison, inserted himself (no, not as a Mary Sue) so that he could talk with the main character about animal abuse, using comics to preach moral issues, and the recent trend in comics. Or recent at that point, anyway.

There are accusations of interrogating the comics from the wrong perspective, protests that humans really are special, [info]kali921's definition of cruelty, arguments over if might makes right* and name-dropping.

*Not totally sure I understood that exchange, way sleepy. Nobody tl:dr at me in an attempt to explain it to me, please!

Edit: A mod posts to remind people to play nice, thanks to the original post having been tagged with 'watch teh_no wank'. Apparently, there was also some post that [info]teh_no had made right before that which had been judged as inflamatory and thus deleted.

Edit II: Screencap of the deleted post.

Edit III: [info]teh_no gets pwned by [info]warren_ellis in [info]teh_no's latest post for which he receives a second mod warning.



[info]teh_no: Dolphins rape each other (which makes it really awkward whenever I see a comic book deifying the wise, mysterious dolphin).

[info]stolismancer: Further, you cannot counteract a discussion of animal cruelty or environmental destruction by bringing up man's additional capacities for art, love, and compassion. They're largely irrelevant to the process. It's like me punching you in the face, then trying to win your forgiveness by showing you my portfolio or photos of my children. I may be the greatest artist to ever set ink to paper, but I just punched you in the goddamn face.

[info]teh_no: 1. Man's intelligence does make him special. It's unfair to focus on "MANKIND IS DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT!!!11!" without also mentioning man's capacity for compassion, art, love, and yes, writing comic books. You might call it the soul. But accentuating the negative isn't proof of a philosophical viewpoint, it's just whiny and emo.
[info]kali921: Swift, Orwell, Tolstoy, and Dostoevsky are all whiny and emo, by your inherently lacking statement.
[info]teh_no: [text removed] you're comparing Grant Morrison, who writes comic books to spread a message that was given to him when he was abducted by aliens in Katmandu, to Swift et al. Megafail.



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[info]sepiamagpie
2007-01-20 07:26 am UTC (link)
That was the issue that finally broke me for Animal Man. Oh sure, I endured the 'seal clubbing is JUST LIKE ABORTING DOLPHIN FETII AND USING THEM AS KITES' issue and the 'oh god, did he just fuck a horse?' issue.

But Grant Morrison interrupting to talk about his dead cat Muffins or whatever was the final straw.

They should have included the cat part in the scans, actually. It's gold.

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[info]sashenka
2007-01-20 07:38 am UTC (link)
Grant Morrison sometimes appears to be catching up to Alan Moore in the crazy preaching department.

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[info]glossing2
2007-01-20 07:35 am UTC (link)
Tags ftw! Although watch teh_no wank should properly appear on *all* his posts.

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[info]jar
2007-01-20 07:46 am UTC (link)
Dolphins rape each other (which makes it really
awkward whenever I see a comic book deifying the wise, mysterious
dolphin).


Please explain to me the point of that? Really, what is bringing up dolphin rape proving/disproving here? People can rape each other too!

So, uh, the proves that... teh_no is really annoying and apparently has a problem with people liking animals? As far as I can tell.

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[info]arionhunter
2007-01-20 08:00 am UTC (link)
Admitting you're being preachy and then going on to preach some more doesn't make you any less annoying, it just makes you self-aware. Actually, it makes you more annoying, since you know you're being annoying and you go on with the behavior anyway.

Oh, the irony, teh_no. The irony.

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[info]cookie_love
2007-01-20 08:05 am UTC (link)
I wanted to care about this wank, but I couldn't get past the dolphin rape.





........There is dolphin rape?!

*feels so naive*

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[info]haunted
2007-01-20 08:12 am UTC (link)
[info]kali921: Wow, you're really getting off on wanking about your anti-animal rights stance, aren't you?

[info]teh_no: Not really. I think you're getting off on self-righteous wankery more.

DING DING DING! We have TWO winners!

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[info]ashenmote
2007-01-20 08:39 am UTC (link)
Animals may strive to become the dominant species in their environment by any means necessary

I always knew they cannot be trusted.

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(no subject) - [info]vengeance_bean, 2007-01-20 09:38 am UTC

[info]fairy_tale_echo
2007-01-20 09:02 am UTC (link)
Hello! I know little to nothing about comics. Well, I like when they get all collected in a graphic novel and I can then read them. But I know this does not make me a "comic" fan, persay.

So, could someone please explain why Grant Morrison thinks he is looks just like Morpheus, who actually looks a lot like Neil Gaiman himself?

Someone? Anyone? Mr. Morrison's cat, Muffins??

(he put his dead cat in the comics??! OMGWTFBBQ!!!11)

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[info]puipui
2007-01-20 09:37 am UTC (link)
I really loved Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol. And I'm really happy that he never interrupted its run to give his thoughts on yaoi. Thank you, Grant!

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(no subject) - [info]the_clichemoth, 2007-01-20 04:42 pm UTC

[info]bitch_ass_hoe
2007-01-20 12:57 pm UTC (link)
The real problem with Grant Morrison is that he has a freakin' cult - not for his (impressive) comics, but for the batshit "chaos magic" theory behind them. I am increasingly convinced that that boils down to "overpaid liberal reads Aleister Crowley and thinks he can destroy the fur trade by masturbating over squiggles on paper".

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[info]palabradot
2007-01-20 04:22 pm UTC (link)
My roommate told me I shouldn't read Morrison's run on Animal Man.

"If the 'upside down S' thing in 52 bothered you, you *really* don't want to read that."

It didn't *bother* me, just had me going buh. But as for Animal Man...Now I know why. Thank you, Fandom Wank.

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[info]sexonastick
2007-01-20 04:47 pm UTC (link)
Quick! Someone ask for his thoughts on yaoi furries!

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[info]waterfront
2007-01-20 04:57 pm UTC (link)
teh_no is a dude?

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[info]fevered_ego
2007-01-20 05:29 pm UTC (link)
I'm having really bad Dark Tower flashbacks right about now. I mean, Grant Morrison, that's a hell of an ego you've got there, but you're no Stephen King.

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[info]deconcentrate
2007-01-20 09:09 pm UTC (link)
For the record, if you're coming off as more of a self-righteous wanker than Kali, that tells me something.

That something is that they should take your computer away immediately, do not pass GO, do not collect 200 rape dollars.

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[info]ashes
2007-01-21 02:21 am UTC (link)
I may be the greatest artist to ever set ink to paper, but I just punched you in the goddamn face.

=D

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[info]mindset
2007-01-21 02:37 am UTC (link)
This wank is making me crack up, because it's like everything I can't stand about s_d, all in one. All it needs is lovecrafty or one of the other frequent wankers...

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(no subject) - magpiggles, 2007-01-21 02:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]mindset, 2007-01-21 02:52 am UTC
(no subject) - magpiggles, 2007-01-21 03:06 am UTC
But wait, there's more!
[info]psychopracter
2007-01-21 09:04 am UTC (link)
http://community.livejournal.com/scans_daily/2897228.html

The Mod steps in.

Kali whines "it was Teh_No being all meeen"

Teh_No says "I didn't say anthing meeen."

---

I want to slap the shit out of both of them, I'm just sayin' is all.

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Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]damien, 2007-01-21 09:13 am UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]papervolcano, 2007-01-21 09:25 am UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]damien, 2007-01-21 09:51 am UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]red_eft, 2007-01-21 11:22 am UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]damien, 2007-01-21 11:55 am UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]red_eft, 2007-01-21 12:57 pm UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]damien, 2007-01-21 01:01 pm UTC
Re: But wait, there's more! - [info]red_eft, 2007-01-21 09:49 pm UTC

[info]jenny_atrox
2007-01-21 09:24 am UTC (link)
i want kali and teh_no in a cage match. Promptly.

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[info]greenling
2007-01-21 02:08 pm UTC (link)
And for his next trick, he posts another reference to the wankthread with a comic about table manners.

I'm not sure whether his claims that he doesn't know what he's implying or why people have a problem are insulting everyone else's intelligence or just his own.

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janegray
2007-01-21 03:26 pm UTC (link)
Further, you cannot counteract a discussion of animal cruelty or environmental destruction by bringing up man's additional capacities for art, love, and compassion. They're largely irrelevant to the process. It's like me punching you in the face, then trying to win your forgiveness by showing you my portfolio or photos of my children. I may be the greatest artist to ever set ink to paper, but I just punched you in the goddamn face.

...Am I a wanker if I completely agree with this? Many of the worst and most cruel criminals appreciate art and love their children, but that doesn't change the fact that they are scum.

Reminds me of that person who tried to demonstrate that Bellatrix is a good person, because sure she is a racist homicidal would-be-genocidal criminal, but she is a sister! And an aunt! OMG she has a family she can't be bad!11

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[info]setsunastar
2007-01-21 04:32 pm UTC (link)
Your icon hypnotised me so thoroughly I couldn't read the rest of the post. Who is she? And is the icon gankable?

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[info]glossing2
2007-01-21 06:38 pm UTC (link)
Warren Ellis weighs in!

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[info]madmouth
2007-02-01 09:59 am UTC (link)
though he's not above a Mary Sue, either

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