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	dawnswalker 2003-07-21 11:20 pm UTC (link)
	WISE FWOM YOUR GWAVE! (Reply to this)(Thread)

	unnamed 2003-07-21 11:33 pm UTC (link)
	"Mawwiage... mawwiage is what bwings us togevuh... today. Mawwiage. The bwessed awwangement. That dweam within a dweam..." (Undead mawwiage. Mmmmm.) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	ereshkigal 2003-07-21 11:49 pm UTC (link)
	Yeah, but is he a real prince? skeptical look (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	unnamed 2003-07-22 12:03 am UTC (link)
	"Oh, yes, there's no doubt about that. I shouldn't have taken the liberty of introducing him to you as Prince Lermontoff if he were not, as we say in Scotland, a real Mackay— the genuine article...." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	unnamed 2003-07-21 11:56 pm UTC (link)
	Ah, the futile desire to discuss a series without all discussions being about a popular character 24-7. As familiar and wanky as ever; it's a good source of entertainment, but after a while, it gets tiring. May I just say that minor characters need love too? Like that random guy in episode whatever. Yeah. (Reply to this)(Thread)

	unoriginality 2003-07-22 12:18 am UTC (link)
	Someone needs to start a community devoted to the cheese man from the dream episode. XD (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	zannechaos 2003-07-22 05:41 am UTC (link)
	How udderly cheesy of you! But who would we slash him with? Giles? No.. OH! I know! The Mayor! Who cares if he's dead? It's minor. Death will never stand in the way of TEH ONE PUR LUV!!!11!!!one!!! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	unoriginality 2003-07-22 05:47 am UTC (link)
	Cheese is good for you. :D The Mayor? No no no... not minor enough... Mr. Trick, perhaps? The kid that the Master was going goo-goo over? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	zannechaos 2003-07-22 05:51 am UTC (link)
	NO!!!1one!! y cant u c taht teh Cheese Man luvs teh Mayor? Tehy r so ment 2 b and u cant c taht?!!one!!! omg u r so dum!!!1!!! (although pairing him off with the Annoited One -- or as Spike dubbed him once, the Annoying One -- would be wonderfully, amusingly squicky...) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: unoriginality 2003-07-22 06:46 am UTC (link)
	Squicky is my life. You know this. huggles the Schezar siblings (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	zannechaos 2003-07-22 06:48 am UTC (link)
	...which reminds me... ::goes to see if the original mail with all the links is still in her inbox somewhere:: (Reply to this)(Parent)

puipui
2003-07-22 08:30 am UTC (link)

(although pairing him off with the Annoited One -- or as Spike dubbed him once, the Annoying One -- would be wonderfully, amusingly squicky...)

But... But... But what would be their cutesy pairing name? You can't have a Buffy pairing without a cutesy pairing name!

Hmm... AnnointedCheese? No... Damn, I can't think of anything! And I so wanted them to be my new OTP! *cries*

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	rann 2003-07-22 05:54 pm UTC (link)
	AnnointedCheese sounds more like someone's LJ name instead of a pairing... how about Cheenointed? (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	puipui 2003-07-24 06:59 pm UTC (link)
	Hmm... Cheenointed makes so very little sense... so it's perfect! Now all we need is an icon! runs off to find screen caps Oh! And we can call the Mayor / Cheese Man pairing "Mayor McCheese"! Beautiful! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	gelasius 2003-07-22 08:23 am UTC (link)
	The cheese man wears naught but the cheese, but the cheese wears not him. None can penetrate the love that binds the cheese man to his cheese. Besides, the cheese man is clearly the First Slayer's bitch. Tchuh. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	lillyv 2003-07-22 05:32 pm UTC (link)
	I beg to differ. It's First Slayer/The Judge 4-EVA! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	rann 2003-07-22 05:56 pm UTC (link)
	No, no, no... The Judge is the bitch of the little mystic girl in the room you get to from the elevator with the disappearing button on Angel! Death cannot keep them apart! Judge and little mystic girl in the room you get to from the elevator with the disappearing button forEVER! (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	gelasius 2003-07-22 11:01 pm UTC (link)
	Oh, you mean Mesektet? ;) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	Re: rann 2003-07-22 11:05 pm UTC (link)
	I prefer little mystic girl in the room you get to from the elevator with the disappearing button. ^.^ (Reply to this)(Parent)

gelasius
2003-07-22 11:03 pm UTC (link)

I beg to differ. It's First Slayer/The Judge 4-EVA!

Oh, come on, where's the canonical support for that? You're just saying that to be contrary. See, the cheese man exists in the realm of the dream and that which is past, just like the FS. In fact, he's probably a lot more powerful than he appears, and may in fact be a personal favorite of Morpheus, his little quirk that he bring out whenever he's feeling . . .

Oh, wait, wrong dreamworld.

::tries to yank tongue out of cheek::

XD

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	Re: lillyv 2003-07-22 11:06 pm UTC (link)
	IT'S MY STORY AND I'LL DO WHAT I WANT! IT'S JUST A STORY GET OVER IT! :P (some of this pairings talk is frightening me. We haven't gotten to tenticle sex yet, have we?) (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	gelasius 2003-07-22 11:10 pm UTC (link)
	Bitch! You don't understand the true love that binds the cheese man to his cheese and the First Slayer! ::cries:: "I don't like tenticles. I'm not good with squishy." (Reply to this)(Parent)

	unnamed 2003-07-23 02:54 am UTC (link)
	Your icon is TEH AWESOME, by the way. (Reply to this)(Parent)

	rann 2003-07-22 12:05 am UTC (link)
	Yaaay! Buffy-wank! (Reply to this)

	iczer6 2003-07-22 05:23 am UTC (link)
	Is it bad for me to agree wholeheartedly with everything she had to say? I mean yes Spike is hot, and yeah he had his moments, but I think he's become the Beaded Pony of Buffy. Yeah there are other characters and maybe people want to talk about them? Icz (Reply to this)(Thread)

	chaos_priestess 2003-07-23 03:57 am UTC (link)
	I think beaded ponies are starting to become conversational pieces. Besides, no-Spike isn't the same as anti-Spike. There's a difference between not talking about someone and bashing the person. (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	iczer6 2003-07-23 04:24 am UTC (link)
	Well I don't think the poster HATES Spike, I think she's genuinely annoyed at the flat out obessesion some Spike fans have. I mean even people who love Spike agree that it's getting a little out of hand. Icz (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

	chaos_priestess 2003-07-23 04:43 am UTC (link)
	That's basically what I was saying. I mean, Spike's a very interesting character and the actor is a hunk of pretty man meat, but I support the "no-Spike talk" thing. Again, there's a difference between getting tired of all the talk (no-Spike) and hating the character (anti-Spike). (Reply to this)(Parent)(Thread)

iczer6
2003-07-23 10:44 am UTC (link)

>>but I support the "no-Spike talk" thing. Again, there's a difference between getting tired of all the talk (no-Spike) and hating the character (anti-Spike).<<

That's kinda my point. I don't think she hates Spike and anyone who likes him, I think she's just annoyed at the constant harping and obessesing about him.

[Besides anyone who names a community after a altered Simpsons quote strikes me as someone with a decent sense of humor.]

Icz

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	Re: chaos_priestess 2003-07-23 05:27 pm UTC (link)
	You have a point. Two, actually, when you take the altered Simpsons quote into consideration. (Reply to this)(Parent)

pradaloz
2003-07-22 03:11 pm UTC (link)

Wanky? Yes. But, hell, why not? I'm sick of every discussion about AtS and BtVS being All About Spike, and I like ~~pre-Buffy-wuvin'~~ Spike.

But look! A Spikefan strikes back!
</blockquote> This is a group for people to talk about the television show AtS (spinoff of Buffy the Vampire Slayer), but any discussion of the title character is prohibited. Let's talk about all the other characters instead! </blockquote>
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't

jennyo's point that Spike is not the main character of AtS and therefore shouldn't enter into Every. Single. Discussion. about the show? I guess it's true: some Spikefen do believe that the show is all about Spikey-kins.

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	rann 2003-07-22 05:59 pm UTC (link)
	Hey, I don't believe that BtVS is all about Spike! ... If it was, it wouldn't have gotten to where it SUCKED LIKE A FORMER POP IDOL TRYING TO GET AIRTIME ON MTV! (Reply to this)(Parent)

	(Anonymous) 2005-11-18 01:17 am UTC (link)
	Okay, wandering around the archives and a few years too late but -- dudes! THAT WAS A JOKE! (And I'm sorry, but it is wanky to discuss a show but forbid discussion of one of the characters on the show. That's wanky... hence the mocking site forbidding discussion of a character on a show.) (Reply to this)(Parent)

	snacky 2003-07-22 05:19 pm UTC (link)
	Mmmm...Buffywank. It has a delicious wanky flavor, all its own. (Reply to this)

ipomoea
2003-07-23 09:08 pm UTC (link)

Hmm. So that's how it started. There'd been giggling over the whole wankfest on my LJ friends' list the past couple days, but I didn't actually have the whole backstory. I knew enough at first to think it was pretty damn funny, though. Looks like the first impression was right.

I actually like Spike, but I'm not one of those 'omg liek spike is totally like jesus in a way!' "Spikemafia" fen they were talking about. And the behaviour in the forums of some of those people is truly embarrassing to the saner among us at times.

*sigh* This is why I distance myself from certain segments of the Buffy fen. 'Cause the extremists are scaaaaaary. They're like tinhats, in a way. Only without the cute foil accessories.

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	rann 2003-07-24 11:09 am UTC (link)
	I actually like Spike, but I'm not one of those 'omg liek spike is totally like jesus in a way!' Well, he did die for Buffy's ~~stupidity~~ sins. (Reply to this)(Parent)