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Yaoi Mistress ([info]ladyrogue) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-01-25 13:23:00


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Entry tags:baleetion, persecution, rps

I'm Being Persecuted!
Moved from CW.

Meet [info]thevelvetsun. He has a beef with LJ admin, namely they bahleeted his character from a celeb RPG. The reason? It's against the TOS to impersonate anyone. Even in RPGs. Along comes [info]clawfoot who says that it was impersonation basically. TVS explains that he had a disclaimer, but as the TOS said, that doesn't matter. From there, TVS gets annoyed: Yeah, people have always been afraid of creepy and weird stuff. I guess that's why gay marriage hasn't been legalized yet, and people are still going around calling other people fag**ts and beating them to death. Just because they think it's creepy and weird doesn't mean we should be shut down with no warning. Yeah, this doesn't go over well.

TVS isn't done yet though, and posts again about how he was attacked in comments and that people are "judging" him for his type of RP. Wank unsurprisingly occurs. Small right now, but still has potential.



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[info]entrenous88
2007-01-25 08:40 pm UTC (link)
And we have an observation that thevelvetsun is interrogating the text the bahleetion from the wrong perspective.

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[info]ninja_stripper
2007-01-27 01:24 am UTC (link)
...YOU WIN THE INTERNET FOR THAT ICON!

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(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2007-01-27 01:29 am UTC

[info]rosehiptea
2007-01-25 08:55 pm UTC (link)
I'm a little confused here... what was he doing that was different from the other RPers? Isn't a celeb RPG impersonating celebrities anyway? Could they all get this treatment, or was he doing something else? Or is it that he was impersonating a celeb with an LJ?

Excuse my ignorance, but now I'm curious.

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[info]ladyrogue
2007-01-25 09:08 pm UTC (link)
I really couldn't say as he didn't say which RPG this was for, so I don't know if the other characters for the RP were also deleted.

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[info]ladyrogue
2007-01-25 09:11 pm UTC (link)
Okay, I checked his userinfo and the RP is apparently called [info]celebtimeout and I only see one suspended account: [info]barrow_man, so er... I don't know what he did differently.

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[info]entrenous88
2007-01-25 09:14 pm UTC (link)
It's a community of people who RP, but only some of them RP real people/celebrities. The fictional-character RPers have nothing to worry about under LJ's TOS as it currently stands, so they started out with shrugging and saying, "yeah, what are you going to do; you violated the rules, you suffer the consequences."

Well, at least they *were* doing that -- until the OP started freaking out about how oppressed he/she is, just like people persecuted for being gay, and now they're off on that.

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[info]shadwing
2007-01-25 09:21 pm UTC (link)
According to the LJ ToS its against the rules to make a journal to impersonate a real live person, even for playing in a game it's considered impersonation. RPs where you don't roleplay as a real person are exempt since the people you are playing are fictional.

The OP of the wanky post is complaining that a few of these RP journals/Celeb RP got ToSed and he thinks it isn't fair since they put up disclaimers stating that it was just a game. The responses are "Yeah it sucks, but these are real people you are pretending to be, even in a game so yeah, ToS violation, you got busted, sorry dude."

So, any CelebRPG on LJ has the very real potential to get ToSed, but since LJ is so huge you have a slight chance of surviving as long as somebody doesn't rat you out. All clear now?

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[info]amxjm
2007-01-25 09:09 pm UTC (link)
*facepalm* Yes, because getting harassed for your sexuality and getting harassed for how you acted on a blogging site are totally comparable.

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(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-01-26 09:33 am UTC

[info]pyratejenni
2007-01-25 09:14 pm UTC (link)
S/he went from "not knowing it was against the ToS" to "interpretting the ToS differently than LJ."

Uh-huh. Right.

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[info]fuzzybluelogic
2007-01-25 10:19 pm UTC (link)
I totally wanked in this one.

The thing was this chick couldn't comprehend that we weren't saying that Real Person RPing was nasty (ok, I think it is, but that's just me)but that comparing it to the plight of Teh Gay was stupid. I also noticed that it went from her friend's LJ being deleted to her LJ and all over the place.

It's Real Person RPing day on El Jay! Someone was complaining on BRPS about their celeb character being forced into an ass-baby storyline.

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(no subject) - [info]kahrohseh, 2007-01-25 10:25 pm UTC
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[info]kahrohseh
2007-01-25 10:22 pm UTC (link)
...So I guess there are some RPS RP comms I should start warning? D:

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(no subject) - [info]mireille, 2007-01-25 10:28 pm UTC
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Completely off-topic... - [info]arekuru, 2007-01-26 03:23 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]puipui, 2007-01-26 04:16 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]aposiopetic, 2007-01-26 04:40 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]anonyrat, 2007-01-26 06:01 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]puipui, 2007-01-26 05:36 pm UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]amxjm, 2007-01-26 06:33 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]nlb_muffin, 2007-01-26 09:40 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]priestesspadfoo, 2007-01-26 09:55 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]ldymusyc, 2007-01-26 03:16 pm UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]puipui, 2007-01-26 05:39 pm UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]priestesspadfoo, 2007-01-27 12:18 pm UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]arekuru, 2007-01-27 04:43 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]priestesspadfoo, 2007-01-27 12:20 pm UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]blackjackrocket, 2007-01-26 11:24 am UTC
Re: Completely off-topic... - [info]arekuru, 2007-01-27 04:39 am UTC

[info]lillyv
2007-01-25 11:42 pm UTC (link)
That poor, poor persecuted individual. I'm personally appalled. I think I should start a petition and organize marches on the lj offices on their behalf.

Or, I could eat some Cheez-Its.

Mmmm...Cheez-Its.

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(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-01-26 09:36 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]lillyv, 2007-01-26 03:01 pm UTC
I'd join you in your epic quest against injustice ... - [info]lottelita, 2007-01-26 09:49 am UTC
Re: I'd join you in your epic quest against injustice ... - [info]lillyv, 2007-01-26 03:03 pm UTC

[info]pyrrah
2007-01-25 11:58 pm UTC (link)
I like how thevelvetsun keeps going "But why is my journal gone? D:" over and over again.

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[info]mmanurere
2007-01-26 12:16 am UTC (link)
Shall we expect a wanksplosion when the "no impersonation rule" gets enforced in some far corner of LJ J-Rock fandom?

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[info]mrbimble
2007-01-26 12:58 am UTC (link)
He knew it was against the TOS but he figured they were OK because of disclaimers.... dude, you don't get to interpret the TOS your way because you want to. LJ gets to do that.

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(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2007-01-26 03:27 am UTC
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[info]cheezdanish
2007-01-26 01:45 am UTC (link)
Yannow, I've been RPing and fan-ficcing now for about six years.

And before that, I was acting.

If anybody ever tried to RP ME, as I was when I was a kid, I would lose. My. Shit. Even with the RPer and ficcing perspective.

So, yeah. No sympathy for this yabbo at all.

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*GAPE* - [info]aerobot, 2007-01-27 07:04 am UTC
*GAPE* - [info]cheezdanish, 2007-01-27 08:20 am UTC
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*reposted for HTML competence* - [info]catslash, 2007-01-27 09:08 pm UTC
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[info]damnedfallacy
2007-01-26 02:26 am UTC (link)
Do you think if I could get the SnapeWives to complain that Snape is real and being impersonated, they'd delete that absolutely dreadful and wildly OOC RPG I was in a few years ago? I'd really like to have that thing pull a Jimmy Hoffa.

And yes. Having an LJ deleted is exactly like not being admitted to your life partner's bedside when she's dying of cancer. Precisely the same thing.

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[info]kartos
2007-01-26 02:40 am UTC (link)
"I feel like since you don't understand this, or you find it creepy, that you're judging me."

What's wrong with judging him? That's exactly what I'm doing, cause it's creepy to the max. I find this worse than riffling a dumpster for celebrities' trash.

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(no subject) - [info]jason_isaacs, 2007-01-26 03:41 am UTC
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[info]pet
2007-01-26 02:47 am UTC (link)
Y'know, on the one hand I can see where he's probably embarrassed and upset about finding out that someone near JB (or JB himself) isn't cool with being role-played and complained to Livejournal and got his ass booted...that'd kinda suck, if you were a fan and weren't expecting it.

On the other hand, this dude is SO DAMN WANKY that I can't help but think that in this case, the TOSsing could only have been for the good of the game, the character, and RPing as a whole. God. He broke the rules! That are right there to be read! What's so hard to get about that?

I'm so glad I RP on Journalfen...

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(no subject) - [info]candy, 2007-01-27 10:28 am UTC
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[info]visp
2007-01-26 05:54 am UTC (link)
So does Harry/Hermione = Slavery and Black Opression beat RPS = Gay Opression in terms of pretentious idiocy? Cause I'm thinking of starting a top ten list.

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(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-01-26 09:45 am UTC
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[info]plazmah
2007-01-26 06:11 am UTC (link)
This wank... confuses me. This probably has to do with the fact that I am drunk as hell right now.

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(no subject) - [info]entrenous88, 2007-01-26 07:36 am UTC
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[info]kartos
2007-01-26 10:09 pm UTC (link)
oh shit, I just realized [info]thevelvetsunis in a band community with me. I WONDER IF HE RPS JARED LETO. lolz

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So sorry, but...
[info]jjano
2007-01-26 11:00 pm UTC (link)
I cannot grasp the fact that people would actually WANT to roleplay as other real people. Complete insanity.
As for the wank, all I can say is that [info]thevelvetsun is batshit insane, not because he does that real people roleplay but because he thinks "OMG YOU'RE ALL PERSECUTING ME JUST LIKE THE HOMOS!". Because, you know, it's EXACTLY like that. We're going to kill him! Oh noes, the huge manatee!

Sigh. Why do people like this live past childbirth?

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Re: So sorry, but... - [info]jjano, 2007-01-26 11:08 pm UTC

[info]ninja_stripper
2007-01-27 01:37 am UTC (link)
On the one hand, celebrities do not have the same rights of privacy as the normal person. I forget what it's called exactly, but because they deliberately put themselves out into the public, they have to put up with parody. Hence all the comedy shows that make fun of real celebs or people that impersonate the president are free from being sued.

On the other hand, it really pinches my tit when people break rules after signing a contract and THEN act like they are the African Americans, Mexican Americans, Jews, Homosexuals.

PS: Do bisexuals and English majors get to exist yet or not?

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(no subject) - [info]melusina, 2007-01-27 03:43 pm UTC
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[info]zinthos
2007-01-28 07:30 am UTC (link)
Three words: pretendy funtime games.

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