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hangingfire ([info]hangingfire) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-02-13 09:20:00


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Current mood:Caffeinated
Current music:The Snowdrops, "Bigmouth Strikes Again"

Chris Ott vs. The Decemberists
In which we learn that 1) when someone writes a snarky piece about a band, it looks kind of bad (for the band) when the lead singer's girlfriend shows up in the comments and savages the writer, and 2) it looks even worse (for everyone, probably) when the writer takes four paragraphs to snipe back at her. And that's even before the readership really starts to weigh in.

It starts when Chris Ott writes a piece for the Village Voice in which he takes the Decemberists -- and specifically frontman Colin Meloy -- to task for, well, being pretentious, in a word.

Of course, Ott takes several paragraphs of varying readability to say this. Then the comments (oldest at the bottom of the page, so scroll all the way down to read the fun from the start) get rolling, and the second comment comes from Carson Ellis, Colin Meloy's girlfriend: "Why is this review so spiteful and weirdly personal? You're lucky nobody wants to write a piece about you and the inferiority complex/unrequited romantic obsessions/high school ass-kickings/unrealized dreams that undoubtedly led you, presumably a music fan, to make a career writing bitterly hateful music reviews."

And they're off! Ott and Ellis fire a few more salvos at each other; fans shoot off at Ott; non-fans give an old-fashioned "right on!"; fans and non-fans get into it ... it finally culminates in a lengthy comment from kingpidge that starts off with the pithy statement "Chris Ott is killing music."

Ahh, indie music fandom. Don't ever change, you egomaniacal wanky little bastards.

(Full disclosure: I love the Decemberists, but even as a fan, I do admit that they can get pretty damn precious sometimes.)




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[info]smo
2007-02-13 06:31 pm UTC (link)
The world has not known a concert this economic and slick since Genesis in the mid 1980s.

Oh, BURN.

*actually remembers Genesis*

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-13 06:36 pm UTC (link)
That was a pointless review, and personally I find The Decemberists far less pretentious and assy than mainstream popular bands and artists like Green Day and Kanye West.

Ellis shouldn't have jumped in. Meh, I feel rather sorry for her, as it must sting to have her SO abused in print like that.

Nice and wanky, though.

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[info]kadath
2007-02-13 06:45 pm UTC (link)
If I can't count on The Decemberists to be pretentious, what is this world coming to?

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[info]judyhazeleyes
2007-02-13 07:01 pm UTC (link)
Well, clearly he needs a new, less wanky girlfriend. Someone - I don't know - more like me?

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[info]fevered_ego
2007-02-13 07:21 pm UTC (link)
I was going to start an erhu/piano duo with my roommate and take Minnesota by storm, but thanks to that fucker Chris Ott I can only play the kazoo.

We'll get you for this, buddy. Just wait.

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[info]nlb_muffin
2007-02-13 07:28 pm UTC (link)
kingpidge: Chris Ott is killing music.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What will we do without "My Humps"?!?!

You know, I don't think I'd ever heard of the Decemberists until their "feud" with Stephen Colbert. And now whenever I hear about them, I always think of him... which I guess makes me like them by default. mmmmmfakepundit...

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-13 07:35 pm UTC (link)
... and the second comment comes from Carson Ellis, Colin Meloy's girlfriend ...

...

Carson?

No, seriously... Carson?

...Damn. That's just unfortunate.

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[info]julesnoctambule
2007-02-13 07:42 pm UTC (link)
Ah, The Village Voice. . .how the mighty have fallen!

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[info]lottelita
2007-02-13 07:46 pm UTC (link)
Wait ... you mean people over the age of 13 actually say "You're just jealous!" seriously?

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-13 07:52 pm UTC (link)
Hey!

I was at that concert!

Yeah I kind of couldn't wait to leave. >_>;

~mysticshell

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-13 07:53 pm UTC (link)
Thank you, Chris Ott! Between the lines of your vitriol, they actually sound like something I'd really like.

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[info]teruhiko
2007-02-13 08:18 pm UTC (link)
Ah, indie music fandom, where no one ever wins. I love you. ♥

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[info]psychesky
2007-02-13 08:41 pm UTC (link)
LMAO! This is priceless. I'm still really glad I have a ticket to see them.

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[info]jenny_atrox
2007-02-13 08:46 pm UTC (link)
If i dont get to see The Decemberists on this tour I am going to punch every baby in Philadelphia!

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flightstothesea
2007-02-13 08:57 pm UTC (link)
LOL INDIE FANS. You'd think by now people would have learnt that the proper response to a bad review is not a flamewar. Probably a good thing for us.

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[info]edgyspice
2007-02-13 09:04 pm UTC (link)
Someone should sit Mr. Meloy's girlfriend down and explain to her just why involving oneself in petty flamewars with music critics is a stupid idea. Lester Bangs vs. Lou Reed this certainly is not.

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[info]ladyvorkosigan
2007-02-13 09:28 pm UTC (link)
I like The Decemberists, damn it. I don't care if they make me feel like a pretentious college freshman sitting in her dorm room thinking about how deep life is. Hear me, Village Voice? I don't care!

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[info]black_spot
2007-02-13 09:48 pm UTC (link)
Why does she (the girlfriend) think having all good reviews will help a career? I didn’t know them, I checked out their music at their Myspace – er… it’s okay. If you’re talking indie (or not now) I prefer Jamie-T.

Does she think she’ll earn his undying love? Sorry love, it really doesn’t work like that – I know.

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[info]elemcee
2007-02-13 10:20 pm UTC (link)
I'm sure every other time you write one, the girlfriend of a band member sends a disgusted letter to your editor.

Ahahah, I really couldn't imagine that.

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[info]deconcentrate
2007-02-13 10:29 pm UTC (link)
On the plus side, he is neither Dom Passantino or Brent DiCrescenzo, which has to count in his favor for something. And Ellis really should have just stepped the hell away from the computer.

But the Decemberists make me happy inside, and insulting them feels a bit like kicking a remarkably intelligent puppy. I can't bring myself to do that. D:

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[info]ryuutchi
2007-02-13 10:30 pm UTC (link)
... I never got to the wank. I got stuck on trying to figure out what a "Japanese misogyny fable" is.

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[info]luthe
2007-02-13 11:39 pm UTC (link)
Can I just state for the record that I think all indie rock is hopelessly pretentious? Really, if I want to listen to some guy whine about his girlfriend, I'll go listen to BNL sing creepy stalker songs.

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[info]daylightsparks
2007-02-14 01:25 am UTC (link)
When I first moved to Portland six years ago, Colin Meloy was playing for free in dive bars. Now he's made Fandom Wank! I'm so proud of him. *sniff*

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(Anonymous)
2007-02-14 02:22 am UTC (link)
I love that you posted this wank while listening to such an appropriate Smiths cover. ;-)

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[info]wankaholic
2007-02-14 04:34 am UTC (link)
. . . thank God the artists I like are all dead. Or indie enough that no one has heard of them, which I guess makes me pretentious too. Waaah!.

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