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mikasa ([info]mikasa) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-03-19 23:05:00


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Entry tags:fandom: supernatural

SPN wanks again: I don't like that fic, so you better stop writing it!
This is smallish and all from one person, but she's wanking hard enough for an army.

Meet azewewish.

azewewish is very, very angry the people in her fandom keep writing a pairing she doesn't like, even though she keeps telling them she doesn't like it. Evidently the scroll function on her mouse is broken and/or people are forcing her at gunpoint to read all this horrible, rage-inducing fic, because she's had all she can take and she can't take it no more!

- And speaking of people needing to step away from the crackpipe, some, I dunno, discussion was going around my flist about who tops in the imaginary twu-wuv relationship that Sam & Dean supposedly have, and, uh, just. No. How about neither of them because they're not fucking each other? *beams* I mean, you know, I get that they're pretty boys & we ALL love the pretty boys fucking, but, you know, there are a MILLION other ways to resolve tension that have nothing to do with sex and there are a MILLION ways to express love and devotion to someone that DON'T involve lube and sloppy blowjobs. Seriously, think about most of the relationships you have with your family & friends & loved ones. And really? Dean would rather shoot himself than even touch Sam's dick. And, if some freaky, bad 'fuck or die' scenario WERE to happen? He'd kill them both, because doing it would kill him anyway.
Because a large parts of her friends list consists of Wincest fans, unsurprisingly there is some polite and mild dissent. glendaglamazon points out that
I guess because I'm not a tinhat, and I'm used to RPS, where it's so very clear that the "characters" aren't actually fucking, I don't have an issue with it.
azewewish responds by going further:
It's not that I'm a tinhat, it's just that what is the point of raping canon in the ass in order to write the really hot sex when you CAN just go to the RP side of things if you want that fic? I mean, y'know, if you want to write Jared & Jensen fucking, WRITE it. But don't tell me that the Winchester brothers are fucking because it goes against every basic tenent of the show & the canon of it. Same with Tami/Tim. I've never agreed with the entire idea of turning the characters into people they're clearly not in order to write a really hot pairing. *shrugs* If it's not THERE leaping out at me, I don't see it. And I don't want it shoved down my throat all the time.
and further still, when glendaglamazon mentions that not everyone sees subtext for all of azewewish's preferred pairings:
You know, I'm trying REALLY hard not to get insulted by that. I just stated that people raping canon for 'omg!hot' annoys me & you basically ask me if that's what I'm doing with the BHD fandom.
So, to answer your question, yes, there is something inherent in the interactions between Hoot & Eversmann in the movie that make me think there could be something there. That's called SUBTEXT & it's what we base our shiny, slashy fandoms on ...

Yes, we are ALL writing AUs, no, most of us don't truly think the characters or boys are fucking. That's why it's subtext.

And my stance on Wincest, as you should well know, has NOTHING to do with the incest part. It has to do with Dean & Sam's relationship on the screen and how there is nothing remotely sexual about it & how the tension between them isn't remotely sexual & how most people in this fandom that write it don't CARE that it goes against every principle that the Winchester boys hold dear, because, hey, they'd be hot together & brothers fucking is WAY hot.
and
what annoys me and will continue to annoy me (and this annoyed me about the Harry/Draco pairing too) is that the 'text' doesn't support the subtext. Yet, people seem to blithely ignore that, just to get to the hot, drrrty-wrong sex.
It's nice to know that if one person doesn't see subtext, it doesn't exist and anyone who reads or writes it is a horrible disgusting raper of canon who shoves their perversion into everyone else's face, isn't it? If only we could all learn from azewewish and only write the pairings she approves of, the world would be a better place.



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[info]oxydosic
2007-03-20 05:17 am UTC (link)
there are a MILLION ways to express love and devotion to someone that DON'T involve lube and sloppy blowjobs.

...there are?

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[info]vigilanterodent
2007-03-20 05:24 am UTC (link)
Man, this chick is like the fabled white hart of legend.

People who get that het up about Wincest . . . in SPN fandom?

I mean, what?

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[info]joye
2007-03-20 05:29 am UTC (link)
I sympathize with people who don't like incest pairings. I am a survivor of incestual sexual abuse and sometimes I have the desire to smack incestfic writers upside the head with a giant stick. Of course that rage mostly comes out when people are writing incest fic involving minors and portraying it as awesome and loving and oh, I'm sorry, I appear to have spooged all over your wank report.
*coughs*
What was my point? Oh yeah. I think people should be able to post rants against incest fic in their own journals, just like people should be able to post the fic itself in their own journals.
Looking further at this post, it appears that all the wank is contained in one thread of 8 comments.
So, my wank grade is F--. Would raise eyebrow mildly again.

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An Indisputable Rebuttal, a.k.a Oh Snap. - wolfie_thu, 2007-03-20 08:44 am UTC
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Re: An Indisputable Rebuttal, a.k.a Oh Snap. - [info]anonyrat, 2007-03-21 09:19 pm UTC
Let me fix that for you - [info]snacky, 2007-03-20 01:06 pm UTC
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[info]kalimyre
2007-03-20 05:33 am UTC (link)
You know, I know someone who feels similarly strongly against the Wincest and insists that anyone who writes fic or meta or anything mentioning it must put it behind a cut with lots of warnings so she is not forced to look at it. Which is not quite as insane as insisting that people not write it at all, but still has that lovely entitlement vibe.

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[info]risha
2007-03-20 05:33 am UTC (link)
You know, if you don't like Wincest, then Supernatural slash is just the completely wrong place for you. I'm a big fan of the show, and of slash. But I can't stand Wincest.

You know what I do about this horrible situation?

I DON'T READ SUPERNATURAL SLASH.

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[info]misachan
2007-03-20 05:45 am UTC (link)
I'm confused by this whole "subtext must be supported by text" stance. I've always thought whole point of subtext is that it's subjective, and hence your viewing of text might not equal my viewing of the text. Have I been wrong all this time?

In a way I feel for [info]azewewish, because incest isn't my thing either and Heroes fandom loves its Petrellicest (now available in slash and het! One stop 'cest shopping!). So you know what I do? I don't read Petrellicest! So easy, I know!

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[info]visp
2007-03-20 05:53 am UTC (link)
So, let me get this straight. Writing about two fictional characters getting it on is horribly wrong, because it doesn't respect the original material BUT writing about two real people getting it on is totally okay, and not creepy because real life doesn't have canon to violate (just privacy and decency).

That's... special logic, that is.

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[info]lottelita
2007-03-20 06:03 am UTC (link)
Someone please take away my Norton Anthology of Literary Criticism and make me sit on my hands.

PLEEEEEEEZ.

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[info]esorlehcar
2007-03-20 06:37 am UTC (link)
And now I have a shiny new icon. Hooray!

This is, like, round 50 of Why Wincest is Sick and Wrong from azwewish (she's also written detailed explanations about how the only reason anyone writes Wincest is that we're all too repressed to write RPS about Jensen and Jared), and she gets more FURIOUS and IRATE and prone to CAPSLOCK OF RAGE each time.

I'm waiting for her to completely lose it on a Ginmarish-scale and start shrieking about how Sam/Dean is just like RAPE and the HOLOCAUST and anyone who doesn't speak out against it is WORSE THAN HITLER, because Wincest is what happens when GOOD PEOPLE DO NOTHING. Because that's just going to be fun.

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[info]katarin
2007-03-20 06:38 am UTC (link)
oh YES, it's like anti-incest wank but with a fresh new twist!

See, days like this I wonder why we can't have incest wank in Heroes fandom. We happen to have BOTH kinds in Heroes, which makes us twice as special.

I suppose I should be glad we're not a particularly wanky fandom?

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(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-20 03:11 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]plazmah, 2007-03-20 04:17 pm UTC
... - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-20 04:25 pm UTC
... - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 07:01 pm UTC
... - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-20 08:30 pm UTC
... - [info]littlest_lurker, 2007-03-21 12:44 am UTC
... - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-21 03:39 pm UTC
... - [info]technosage, 2007-03-20 09:18 pm UTC
... - [info]plazmah, 2007-03-21 01:39 am UTC
... - [info]marumae, 2007-03-21 04:28 am UTC
... - [info]plazmah, 2007-03-22 12:03 am UTC
... - [info]varkias, 2007-03-23 12:41 am UTC
... - [info]eilisliana, 2007-03-21 12:44 am UTC
... - [info]plazmah, 2007-03-21 01:35 am UTC
... - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-21 03:40 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 07:03 pm UTC
... - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-20 08:45 pm UTC
... - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 11:51 pm UTC
... - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-21 03:36 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]yotz_fen, 2007-03-20 06:54 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 07:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]technosage, 2007-03-20 09:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]vanilla_tiger, 2007-03-21 05:03 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]lavenderfrost, 2007-03-20 09:02 pm UTC

[info]velvet_mace
2007-03-20 06:52 am UTC (link)
This sounds like the gist of this arguement:

Writing about fictional brothers fucking = bad

Writing about actual actors fucking each other = dandy.

MMM, sounds like a my squick is more real than yours argument to me. Personally, I'll read a library of Wincest before I'd touch a RPF, but I'm not going to go all ALLCAPS on the issue.

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[info]telesilla
2007-03-20 06:53 am UTC (link)
*yawns* Second verse same as the first. Honestly, does she appoint herself as the One True Arbiter of Subtext in every fandom she's in?

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(no subject) - [info]ladycat, 2007-03-20 07:00 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]telesilla, 2007-03-20 07:28 am UTC
... - [info]ladycat, 2007-03-20 07:31 am UTC
... - [info]kyuuketsukirui, 2007-03-20 07:33 am UTC
... - [info]telesilla, 2007-03-20 07:46 am UTC

[info]wrongly_amused
2007-03-20 07:12 am UTC (link)
Hahahahahahaha. I'm just extremely amused because I think I know which fic she's ranting about, and I'm friends listed with the author.

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[info]manasseh
2007-03-20 07:15 am UTC (link)
I could have sworn I had read some [info]azewewish Wincest... *checks memories* Huh. Guess not. Go figure.

And I don't want it shoved down my throat all the time.

I will not make a bad Wincest joke. Nope.

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(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 07:34 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]toxictattoo, 2007-03-20 03:41 pm UTC
... - [info]katarin, 2007-03-21 01:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]technosage, 2007-03-20 09:21 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]manasseh, 2007-03-20 10:03 pm UTC
... - [info]katarin, 2007-03-21 01:08 am UTC
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... - [info]varkias, 2007-03-23 12:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ecchaniz0r, 2007-03-20 11:46 pm UTC

[info]giventofly37
2007-03-20 07:18 am UTC (link)
Oh, Supernatural fandom. Never change.

*quietly 'ships Dean/Impala in a corner*

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(no subject) - [info]eilisliana, 2007-03-20 07:30 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]ladysorka, 2007-03-20 07:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]giventofly37, 2007-03-20 07:58 am UTC
... - [info]ciaan, 2007-03-20 09:41 pm UTC
(no subject) - dracothelizard, 2007-03-20 12:10 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]giventofly37, 2007-03-21 03:08 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]derryderrydown, 2007-03-20 12:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]frikatilhi, 2007-03-20 02:58 pm UTC
... - [info]derryderrydown, 2007-03-20 05:01 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]giventofly37, 2007-03-21 03:09 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]zillah975, 2007-03-20 04:12 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]technosage, 2007-03-20 09:22 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]april_hurst, 2007-03-21 05:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2007-03-23 12:44 am UTC

[info]elektra3
2007-03-20 07:29 am UTC (link)
And really? Dean would rather shoot himself than even touch Sam's dick.

And you know this... how, exactly?

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(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 07:54 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]trollprincess, 2007-03-20 01:02 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]technosage, 2007-03-20 09:24 pm UTC
(no subject) - magpiggles, 2007-03-20 01:23 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]zealot, 2007-03-20 06:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]marumae, 2007-03-21 04:32 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]blueleopard87, 2007-03-22 12:04 am UTC
(no subject) - (Anonymous), 2007-04-25 05:27 am UTC

[info]life_on_mars
2007-03-20 08:16 am UTC (link)
Do anti-slash people ever think about what they're saying when they state that they "don't want it shoved down [their] throat"?

I mean, duh, people, we got that!

In other news, she made her point reasonably enough at first but then she just darn' well Wouldn't. Let. It. Go. If you don't see it, you don't see it; that has nothing to do with the type of relationship it is, it just means you don't see it.

Other people do.

Live with it.

[NB: I wouldn't know these people from a hole in the ground but knee-jerk anti-slashism pisses me off.]

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(no subject) - [info]panthea, 2007-03-20 03:53 pm UTC

tintin
2007-03-20 08:24 am UTC (link)
Is this the same woman who said that incest fic was turning people into predators?

Also, the SPN OTP is obviously Dean/Papa Winchester. Duh.

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(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-03-20 08:34 am UTC
(no subject) - tintin, 2007-03-20 08:35 am UTC
... - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-03-20 08:39 am UTC
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... - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-03-21 07:38 am UTC
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(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 08:45 am UTC
... - tintin, 2007-03-20 09:07 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]manasseh, 2007-03-20 10:57 pm UTC
... - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-03-20 11:17 pm UTC
... - [info]manasseh, 2007-03-20 11:33 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2007-03-23 12:57 am UTC
(no subject) - tintin, 2007-03-23 05:05 am UTC

[info]littlest_lurker
2007-03-20 09:10 am UTC (link)
Wait wait wait. So she's cool with the RPS, but slashing the characters is out?

...that's a first.

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(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2007-03-23 12:58 am UTC

[info]notjo
2007-03-20 10:42 am UTC (link)
Is it true that the SPN fandom warns for non-wincest, the way that HP warns for het?

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(no subject) - [info]trollprincess, 2007-03-20 01:05 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]esorlehcar, 2007-03-20 04:17 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]pet, 2007-03-20 04:43 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]mousy_345e4, 2007-03-21 12:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]varkias, 2007-03-23 12:59 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]narcissam, 2007-03-21 02:01 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]april_hurst, 2007-03-21 05:09 am UTC

[info]onyxnoir
2007-03-20 11:03 am UTC (link)
OMG those pics of Orlando Bloom.

*drools*


Wait...there was wank?

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(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-03-20 01:26 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]morwyn, 2007-03-20 11:31 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]onyxnoir, 2007-03-20 11:42 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]onyxnoir, 2007-03-20 11:43 pm UTC
... - [info]visp, 2007-03-21 06:52 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]bigbigtruck, 2007-03-21 02:02 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]onyxnoir, 2007-03-21 02:12 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]visp, 2007-03-21 06:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]onyxnoir, 2007-03-21 08:05 am UTC
Personally... - [info]cookie_love, 2007-03-21 11:01 pm UTC
Re: Personally... - [info]morbide_mind, 2007-03-22 05:59 pm UTC

[info]derryderrydown
2007-03-20 11:57 am UTC (link)
She's right, you know. Sam and Dean definitely aren't fucking.

John and Dean are.

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(no subject) - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 12:08 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]derryderrydown, 2007-03-20 12:11 pm UTC
... - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 12:14 pm UTC
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... - [info]ragnarok, 2007-03-20 01:31 pm UTC
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... - [info]risha, 2007-03-20 05:52 pm UTC
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... - [info]sakemaki, 2007-03-20 08:26 pm UTC
... - [info]risha, 2007-03-20 10:00 pm UTC
... - [info]morwyn, 2007-03-20 11:35 pm UTC
... - [info]darkrose, 2007-03-20 09:38 pm UTC
... - [info]katarin, 2007-03-20 11:48 pm UTC
... - [info]darkrose, 2007-03-21 12:02 am UTC
... - [info]trollprincess, 2007-03-20 01:09 pm UTC
... - [info]derryderrydown, 2007-03-20 01:48 pm UTC
... - magpiggles, 2007-03-20 06:24 pm UTC
... - [info]pet, 2007-03-20 04:44 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]coffee_mug, 2007-03-20 03:12 pm UTC

[info]dragonfangirl
2007-03-20 12:44 pm UTC (link)
Evidently the scroll function on her mouse is broken

And the line break function, too.

I've never agreed with the entire idea of turning the characters into people they're clearly not in order to write a really hot pairing

...And yet she writes RPS. Beauty.

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(no subject) - [info]missdaisy, 2007-03-20 02:47 pm UTC

[info]napalmnacey
2007-03-20 01:27 pm UTC (link)
I'm-a gonna be over here in Doctor Who fandom. Where there's no issue with this because the Doctor isn't related to anyone in the show at the moment. Nope. No people freaking out. Just David Tennant. *nods*

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(no subject) - [info]shadowkitty, 2007-03-20 07:07 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]napalmnacey, 2007-03-21 12:40 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]rosalita, 2007-03-21 01:13 am UTC

[info]polygamouse
2007-03-20 01:28 pm UTC (link)
She's bitching in her own lj about a fanfic squick. Where's the wank?

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(no subject) - [info]verdementa, 2007-03-20 02:58 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]misswindy, 2007-03-20 04:33 pm UTC
I know... - [info]polygamouse, 2007-03-20 06:49 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]greenling, 2007-03-21 04:14 am UTC
(no subject) - [info]darkrose, 2007-03-20 09:19 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]polygamouse, 2007-03-20 09:47 pm UTC
... - [info]polygamouse, 2007-03-20 09:49 pm UTC
... - [info]darkrose, 2007-03-20 09:53 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]ryuutchi, 2007-03-20 10:39 pm UTC
(no subject) - [info]polygamouse, 2007-03-20 11:26 pm UTC
... - [info]snacky, 2007-03-20 11:33 pm UTC
... - [info]polygamouse, 2007-03-20 11:41 pm UTC
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