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Dan Fogelberg's ([info]llama_treats) wrote in [info]fandom_wank,
@ 2007-03-29 09:47:00


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Entry tags:barista, fandom: stargate, racism

George Bush hates...baristas in Atlantis?
[info]omglawdork writes an SGA AU story in which Ronon is a barista.

It seems that "barista" is some kind of underground racial slur nowadays. I knew there was a reason I hated Starbucks.

ETA: Parts Two through A Billion




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sockpuppet_rat
2007-03-29 04:12 pm UTC (link)
Wow. [info]lierdumoa just jumps right in there, no questions asked. It kinda makes me wonder if she does that in real life. "OMG, RACISM!" It's much funnier to read her comment if you think about her getting her morning java and then trying to inspire the 'brown people' at Starbucks to throw off the chains of oppression.

[info]coniraya just loses for telling people to troll. Not on.

Ahhh, tasty, tasty wank. I'm going to go to Starbucks and demand that only 'white folks' wait on me. BECAUSE I WON'T BE PARTY TO THIS OPPRESSION.

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[info]mochibuni
2007-03-29 04:34 pm UTC (link)
The amount of anger scares me. I can only imagine that if they were presented with something to be truly angry over, a small country might perish from their wrath.

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[info]rolling_my_eyes
2007-03-29 04:36 pm UTC (link)
And here I thought writers could write about whatever they wanted, and include whatever characters they wanted. If I write a story that doesn't involve Weir, Teyla, Cadman, etc, does that make me a woman-hater?

I didn't read the story, but I can see Ronon as an awesome foil to McKay, as a barista. Perhaps I just don't like brown people, though. This kind of thing is the exact reason I chose this username. Ugh.

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[info]viralmemory
2007-03-29 04:52 pm UTC (link)
I liked the bit of, "I was overreacting 'cuz they overreacted, so it's okay!"

And just because dude works as a barista doesn't mean he doesn't spend the rest of his time reading philosophy books and helping out at shelters for homeless people and kittens! Honestly, people leap to such conclusions. Who says a lab manager doesn't go home, pick up a hooker and beat the crap out of her? Why is it that jobs mean anything but what a person's doing right then?
ahem. Anyway. Totally not being wanky.

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[info]ladycat
2007-03-29 04:53 pm UTC (link)
I am still unable to figure out how barista = low class/demeaning/whatthefuckever. Given right now most baristas make more than my post-masters ass is, and have more promising careers, too.

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[info]phosfate
2007-03-29 05:06 pm UTC (link)
"Well, I can't really comment on the racial aspect -- I'm a white girl, so I've never had to deal with that societal flaw"

Oh dear.

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[info]gloria_mundi
2007-03-29 05:16 pm UTC (link)
barista" is some kind of underground racial slur nowadays

Buh?

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[info]goblin
2007-03-29 05:20 pm UTC (link)
I love when tagetes opens hir (very polite) comment with "hope you don´t mind me commenting here" and coniraya responds, "I actually do because I wanted this to stay in the journal and not spread to my personal space but it's too late for that so what the hell."

I can see how private you are, coniraya. That must be why you locked the post and also, asked everyone not to link to it.

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bardicsidhe
2007-03-29 05:31 pm UTC (link)
I don't give a rat's ass about all the damn drama - thank you for a link to a very good story! ...Granted, SGA AU's can be realms of some pretty speshul crazy, but in this case the writing was enough to carry it through. It was good enough to make me read about man-lovin' at work. x)

I suspicion that lierdumoa just likes having something to shake a fist at.

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[info]uriel
2007-03-29 05:39 pm UTC (link)
I have to agree with the somebody who said that some people really are looking for racism too hard. Seriously, I just stare at the comments and wonder how people can get so worked up over a freakin' AU fanfic.

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[info]squeakytoy
2007-03-29 06:04 pm UTC (link)
Yes, I wondered if and when this would turn up here.

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[info]onaga
2007-03-29 06:27 pm UTC (link)
LOL WE'RE RACISTS GUYS

'Cause you know that's exactly what I said! Don't dare call a brown person a barista cause that's a racist ter! Doesn't matter that we're talking about SocioEconomic Status and societal views! It's so nice when racists boil down your view to something easy to make fun of. Whatever I'm too through.

Dear coinraya: this is a three-sentence wank report, one of those sentences being a joke about Starbucks. Of course we're boiling down your view to make fun of it. That's what we do here. We do that to everybody, regardless of creed, culture, race or gender.

FW: Equal-Opportunity-Offenders.

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[info]cjk
2007-03-29 06:34 pm UTC (link)
Sod the wank: the story is really good. I love SGA AUs, the few times they're done well. Thanks for the link! ;)

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[info]risha
2007-03-29 07:08 pm UTC (link)
The real shame is that they're doing this in a fic where Ronan is a really interesting and amusing character, and vital to the plot. Can't they save their anger for the ones where he's a brainless grunt?

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[info]hooverdam
2007-03-29 07:13 pm UTC (link)
Is this wank shade grown, fair trade? If not, I don't want it.

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[info]black_spot
2007-03-29 07:14 pm UTC (link)
Talk about a drama llama. Don’t think she’s had her fix of logic caffeine in the morning. One look at her expression and the ‘barista’ probably ran a mile. It must be tough carrying such large chips on her shoulders.

Wonder what she’d have to say about this.

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[info]ebonbird
2007-03-29 07:22 pm UTC (link)
That's not [info]coniraya's position. You're mis-stating it.

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[info]coffee_mug
2007-03-29 07:59 pm UTC (link)
Why don't my weird AUs get this sort of attention?

Note to self: make Draco a boot-polisher in next story.

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[info]vampychick
2007-03-29 08:12 pm UTC (link)
Dear God, woman, get that beam in your eye checked out before you start picking on the speck in someone else's. Sure, other authors are prejudiced because they make Ronon or whoever a barista or a scrub tech or a nurse. You don't think those jobs are low-grade at all.

Fuck that noise. I'm about to graduate college and I'm seriously considering Starbucks as a career path.

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[info]tez
2007-03-29 08:41 pm UTC (link)
So does that mean I oppressed someone when I ordered a nonfat sugarfree no-whip cinnamon dolce latte this morning?

Well crap.

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[info]ladycat
2007-03-29 09:33 pm UTC (link)
Aaand in slightly related wank, Livia has posted something that discusses the actual argument without being wanky.

But we're going to ignore that part.

Instead, we're going to talk about how calling a Maine Coon (biggest damned domesticated cat *ever*) Ronon is also a sign of wtfeverism.

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[info]bastet
2007-03-30 05:02 am UTC (link)
I'm with Livia--it's not this one story that's the problem, it's the trend. It certainly does sound insane based on just this one example, though.

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[info]eryn
2007-03-30 05:23 am UTC (link)
Uhm, I'm a middle-class white girl. I'm also a barista.

The hell?

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[info]khym_chanur
2007-03-30 05:25 am UTC (link)
Is anyone else consistently turning "Ronon" into "Won-Won" in their heads, or is that just me?

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